Adult Franklin Richards{as he appeared in Fantastic Four # 604, confronting(and possibly defeating?) a group of Celestials who had just recently laid out a well fed Galactus } :
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Rune King Thor :
Adult Franklin Richards{as he appeared in Fantastic Four # 604, confronting(and possibly defeating?) a group of Celestials who had just recently laid out a well fed Galactus } :
VS
Rune King Thor :
@czarny_samael666 said:
@greenteaforme said:No, it won't be that easy.Frank wins with ZERO effort. Literally, zero.
Yes, it will.
He thinks of Thor gone, and Thor is gone.
Think about it.@czarny_samael666 said:
@greenteaforme said:No, it won't be that easy.Frank wins with ZERO effort. Literally, zero.
Yes, it will.
He thinks of Thor gone, and Thor is gone.
@czarny_samael666 said:
@greenteaforme said:No, it won't be that easy.Frank wins with ZERO effort. Literally, zero.
@MyonKuro said:
Can'tRune King ThorSpeed~Blitz Franklin, if so,Franklin's dead.
Thor's hammer is faster than the Speed of Thought.If this is not the case.Franklin Richards Wins.~Myon x3
No, it's not. Storm has dodged it before whilst in flight, and her flight speed and maneuverability is not very high at all.
@czarny_samael666 said:
@Tony_Shark said:Think about it. RLT is no mere Skyfather. RKT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surtur with TS (look how easily he released Fire Demon, while he with his army that had hammers possibly equal to Mjolnir couldn't do it at all), possibly the same about Celestials, considering that Odin never even tried to fight TWSAIS, but he tried to fight with Celestials. Plus 4th Host doesn't have feats that would put them that much above Skyfathers. Hard to say how high RKT should be, but until You wanna say that Franklin is equal to let say... Legion or Insane GV, then I don't see how he can end this in that way. He couldn't to Super-Celestial.@czarny_samael666 said:
@greenteaforme said:No, it won't be that easy.Frank wins with ZERO effort. Literally, zero.
Yes, it will.
He thinks of Thor gone, and Thor is gone.
Rune King Thor , based on his feats was only mid elder god level . Franklin never got to face the Super-Celestial , so that's unnecessary speculation on your part . Also , Odin prepared Thor to eventually take on Those Who Sit Above , by sending him to Earth . In this case Odin's plans and strategies ultimately succeeded .
With the Celestials on the other hand , Odin had a thousand years of prep , and despite the power of all of the Asgardian people , a portion of each of the other skyfathers' power , filled up in the Destroyer Armor , armed with the Odinsword , the best he could do was only lop off a Celestial's arm(which instantly regrew) .
As far as the 4th Host goes , individual members were easily able to grapple and gain the upper hand against the Odinforce+Asgard+portion of each of the skyfthers' power-animated-Destroyer .
Now , as far as the Mad Celestials(the ones whom Franklin and Galactus defeated) are concerned ,their individual members tanked alternate UN's (their leader Eson possibly even tanked the 616-UN) and survived a nuking from an alternate IG .
Based on these facts , anyone would know who is more impressive between the two groups .
Galactus on his power did, Franklin also doesn't have too many feats.@czarny_samael666 said:
@Tony_Shark said:Think about it. RLT is no mere Skyfather. RKT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surtur with TS (look how easily he released Fire Demon, while he with his army that had hammers possibly equal to Mjolnir couldn't do it at all), possibly the same about Celestials, considering that Odin never even tried to fight TWSAIS, but he tried to fight with Celestials. Plus 4th Host doesn't have feats that would put them that much above Skyfathers. Hard to say how high RKT should be, but until You wanna say that Franklin is equal to let say... Legion or Insane GV, then I don't see how he can end this in that way. He couldn't to Super-Celestial.@czarny_samael666 said:
@greenteaforme said:No, it won't be that easy.Frank wins with ZERO effort. Literally, zero.
Yes, it will.
He thinks of Thor gone, and Thor is gone.
Rune King Thor , based on his feats was only mid elder god level . Franklin never got to face the Super-Celestial , so that's unnecessary speculation on your part . Also , Odin prepared Thor to eventually take on Those Who Sit Above , by sending him to Earth . In this case Odin's plans and strategies ultimately succeeded .
With the Celestials on the other hand , Odin had a thousand years of prep , and despite the power of all of the Asgardian people , a portion of each of the other skyfathers' power , filled up in the Destroyer Armor , armed with the Odinsword , the best he could do was only lop off a Celestial's arm(which instantly regrew) .
As far as the 4th Host goes , individual members were easily able to grapple and gain the upper hand against the Odinforce+Asgard+portion of each of the skyfthers' power-animated-Destroyer .
Now , as far as the Mad Celestials(the ones whom Franklin and Galactus defeated) are concerned ,their individual members tanked alternate UN's (their leader Eson possibly even tanked the 616-UN) and survived a nuking from an alternate IG .
Based on these facts , anyone would know who is more impressive between the two groups .
@czarny_samael666 said:
@Hyper_God said:Galactus on his power did, Franklin also doesn't have too many feats. Prep against TWSAIS >>> Prep against Celestials. Odin didn't even try to fight with them, which means that he had completly no chances against them, ergo TWSAIS >>> 4th host. And that other Celestials are powerfull, yes, close to Galactus individually and nothing tells us that Galactus can one-shot RKT.@czarny_samael666 said:
@Tony_Shark said:Think about it. RLT is no mere Skyfather. RKT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surtur with TS (look how easily he released Fire Demon, while he with his army that had hammers possibly equal to Mjolnir couldn't do it at all), possibly the same about Celestials, considering that Odin never even tried to fight TWSAIS, but he tried to fight with Celestials. Plus 4th Host doesn't have feats that would put them that much above Skyfathers. Hard to say how high RKT should be, but until You wanna say that Franklin is equal to let say... Legion or Insane GV, then I don't see how he can end this in that way. He couldn't to Super-Celestial.@czarny_samael666 said:
@greenteaforme said:No, it won't be that easy.Frank wins with ZERO effort. Literally, zero.
Yes, it will.
He thinks of Thor gone, and Thor is gone.
Rune King Thor , based on his feats was only mid elder god level . Franklin never got to face the Super-Celestial , so that's unnecessary speculation on your part . Also , Odin prepared Thor to eventually take on Those Who Sit Above , by sending him to Earth . In this case Odin's plans and strategies ultimately succeeded .
With the Celestials on the other hand , Odin had a thousand years of prep , and despite the power of all of the Asgardian people , a portion of each of the other skyfathers' power , filled up in the Destroyer Armor , armed with the Odinsword , the best he could do was only lop off a Celestial's arm(which instantly regrew) .
As far as the 4th Host goes , individual members were easily able to grapple and gain the upper hand against the Odinforce+Asgard+portion of each of the skyfthers' power-animated-Destroyer .
Now , as far as the Mad Celestials(the ones whom Franklin and Galactus defeated) are concerned ,their individual members tanked alternate UN's (their leader Eson possibly even tanked the 616-UN) and survived a nuking from an alternate IG .
Based on these facts , anyone would know who is more impressive between the two groups .
Nope , Those Who Sit Above were only tied to the Asgardian fates , that much is proven with their limited/lack of influence in the Earth dimension which enabled Thor to hide from their influence .
As far as Franklin's feats go , try one-shotting an amped(he had an additional amp from the Dire Wraiths' evil , in addition to being in his own realm , this was noted by Dr Strange who was literally struggling to barely hold his own against Mephisto , and Dr Strange during those times used to hang with guys like Dormammu and Shuma-Gorath) Mephisto .
Against the Celestials , Odin had to rely on the aid of his fellow skyfathers , along with 1000 years of prep to commission the Destroyer . Its by far the highest level of prep we have seen from the Earthly Gods , barring the IG and HOTU incidences .
Galactus had devoured 4 worlds prior to that encounter with the Mad Celestials , he was as well-fed and prepped as we have ever seen him to be in more recent times . A regular Galactus may or may not one-shot RKT but an amped , prepped Galactus definitely will .
As far as Odin wanting to fight the Celestials , while not doing so against Those Who Sit Above , Odin at that point still didn't grasp the Celestials' true power . They were entities that were more or less alien to him and he(along with Zeus and Vishnu) was facing them for the first time . Ever since the 4th Host melted the Destroyer , the skyfathers have never attempted to intervene in Celestial affairs ever again .
Franklin wins this with relative ease .
Ill say RKT. Franklin has as much feats that RKT has. Seriously RKT didnt have to exert or try anything to beat Skyfather Level Loki, Mangog, and the Gods that fed on the Asgardian Gods like candy. RKT also completly out class Sutur who is HIGHER than a Skyfather.
Franklin is equal to a Celestial to sources. RKT has shown on par with Eldar Gods. Eldar Gods are about as high as Cyttorak, Dormammu, Umar, and Shuma Gorath. RKT is in those ranks.
@CadenceV2 said:
Ill say RKT. Franklin has as much feats that RKT has. Seriously RKT didnt have to exert or try anything to beat Skyfather Level Loki, Mangog, and the Gods that fed on the Asgardian Gods like candy. RKT also completly out class Sutur who is HIGHER than a Skyfather.
Franklin is equal to a Celestial to sources. RKT has shown on par with Eldar Gods. Eldar Gods are about as high as Cyttorak, Dormammu, Umar, and Shuma Gorath. RKT is in those ranks.
Poor application of ABC logic , not to mention that two of your "Eldar Gods" are featless as well , while the other two are nowhere in Franklin's league(nor are they above him) .
As far as Franklin's feats go , they speak for themselves . And what they do speak is that the n00b(why am I not surprised that its this guy) who started this thread should be banned for making a spite thread against Thor .
Franklin wins all due to the misconception that RKT is not even above the Threads of Fate. However, it might be debatable whether or not Franklin is tied to the Fates, because IF he is, Thor would have to sacrifice himself like he did last time, by smashing the spindling wheel that reseted time.
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
Franklin wins all due to the misconception that RKT is not even above the Threads of Fate. However, it might be debatable whether or not Franklin is tied to the Fates, because IF he is, Thor would have to sacrifice himself like he did last time, by smashing the spindling wheel that reseted time.
The Norn Fates are only limited to the destiny of Asgard . They have nothing whatsoever to do with the 616-Universe .
@Hyper_God said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
Franklin wins all due to the misconception that RKT is not even above the Threads of Fate. However, it might be debatable whether or not Franklin is tied to the Fates, because IF he is, Thor would have to sacrifice himself like he did last time, by smashing the spindling wheel that reseted time.
The Fates are only limited to the destiny of Asgard . They have nothing whatsoever to do with the 616-Universe .
I know this, but some do argue that it is because the Fates are quote, above Skyfathers.
@Hyper_God said:
@CadenceV2 said:
Ill say RKT. Franklin has as much feats that RKT has. Seriously RKT didnt have to exert or try anything to beat Skyfather Level Loki, Mangog, and the Gods that fed on the Asgardian Gods like candy. RKT also completly out class Sutur who is HIGHER than a Skyfather.
Franklin is equal to a Celestial to sources. RKT has shown on par with Eldar Gods. Eldar Gods are about as high as Cyttorak, Dormammu, Umar, and Shuma Gorath. RKT is in those ranks.
Poor application of ABC logic , not to mention that two of your "Eldar Gods" are featless as well , while the other two are nowhere in Franklin's league(nor are they above him) .
As far as Franklin's feats go , they speak for themselves . And what they do speak is that the n00b(why am I not surprised that its this guy) who started this thread should be banned for making a spite thread against Thor .
Too funny since Franklin has very little feats and Thor lower than RKT beaten Higher than Celestials which Franklins power is stated to be. So your logic fails when comparing feats.
@CadenceV2 said:
@Hyper_God said:
@CadenceV2 said:
Ill say RKT. Franklin has as much feats that RKT has. Seriously RKT didnt have to exert or try anything to beat Skyfather Level Loki, Mangog, and the Gods that fed on the Asgardian Gods like candy. RKT also completly out class Sutur who is HIGHER than a Skyfather.
Franklin is equal to a Celestial to sources. RKT has shown on par with Eldar Gods. Eldar Gods are about as high as Cyttorak, Dormammu, Umar, and Shuma Gorath. RKT is in those ranks.
Poor application of ABC logic , not to mention that two of your "Eldar Gods" are featless as well , while the other two are nowhere in Franklin's league(nor are they above him) .
As far as Franklin's feats go , they speak for themselves . And what they do speak is that the n00b(why am I not surprised that its this guy) who started this thread should be banned for making a spite thread against Thor .
Too funny since Franklin has very little feats and Thor lower than RKT beaten Higher than Celestials which Franklins power is stated to be. So your logic fails when comparing feats.
Thor has beaten greater than Celestial-level beings ? Apparently the government's plan to see that monkeys can type was successfully accomplished . Thanks for volunteering , don't forget to collect your banana on your way out .
@Hyper_God said:
@CadenceV2 said:
@Hyper_God said:
@CadenceV2 said:
Ill say RKT. Franklin has as much feats that RKT has. Seriously RKT didnt have to exert or try anything to beat Skyfather Level Loki, Mangog, and the Gods that fed on the Asgardian Gods like candy. RKT also completly out class Sutur who is HIGHER than a Skyfather.
Franklin is equal to a Celestial to sources. RKT has shown on par with Eldar Gods. Eldar Gods are about as high as Cyttorak, Dormammu, Umar, and Shuma Gorath. RKT is in those ranks.
Poor application of ABC logic , not to mention that two of your "Eldar Gods" are featless as well , while the other two are nowhere in Franklin's league(nor are they above him) .
As far as Franklin's feats go , they speak for themselves . And what they do speak is that the n00b(why am I not surprised that its this guy) who started this thread should be banned for making a spite thread against Thor .
Too funny since Franklin has very little feats and Thor lower than RKT beaten Higher than Celestials which Franklins power is stated to be. So your logic fails when comparing feats.
Thor has beaten greater than Celestial-level beings ? Apparently the government's plan to see that monkeys can type was successfully accomplished . Thanks for volunteering , don't forget to collect your banana on your way out .
Wow. Never heard of Thor beating Mephisto in his Realm, or Atum (the freaking Eldar God Eater), or Galactus (It happen and was a \WEAKER Thor), or Thanos!!! I guess your the Monkey that needs his banana and read some comics before posting.
Again Epic Fail.
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
That's the same guy that says Franklin can beat Dormammu.
@Magethor said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
That's the same guy that says Franklin can beat Dormammu.
What?
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
No its because thats my opinion and if i have an opinion, it never changes. I want Thor to win so I think he'll win.
@TERMINATORXX said:
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
No its because thats my opinion and if i have an opinion, it never changes. I want Thor to win so I think he'll win.
So.... You openly admit to bias? I think that is actually worse than your obvious cry for attention.
@Erik: Than stop giving me attention cause im heading the direction to not even bother reading or replying to a word you say.
@SlimJ87D said:
@Magethor said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
That's the same guy that says Franklin can beat Dormammu.
What?
Hypergod.
@Magethor said:
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
Or maybe he's just playing Devil's Advocate.
I have known this user on his many accounts since his first appearance. I can tell you with absolute certainty, such a thing is beyond him. You give him far too much credit.
@Erik said:
@Magethor said:
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
Or maybe he's just playing Devil's Advocate.
I have known this user on his many accounts since his first appearance. I can tell you with absolute certainty, such a thing is beyond him. You give him far too much credit.
did you ever think i'd make it to 900 posts? LOL
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
Bravo for pointing out what everyone else aint realizing.
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
Why is it the wrong answere? Hes right. Tho maybe not a stomp.
@CadenceV2 said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
Bravo for pointing out what everyone else aint realizing.
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
Why is it the wrong answere? Hes right. Tho maybe not a stomp.
Ty for having my back.
@Erik said:
@Magethor said:
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
Or maybe he's just playing Devil's Advocate.
I have known this user on his many accounts since his first appearance. I can tell you with absolute certainty, such a thing is beyond him. You give him far too much credit.
I really thought he wasn't serious about the T-800s beating Spiderman. Are you saying he was?
@Magethor said:
@Erik said:
@Magethor said:
@Erik said:
@TERMINATORXX said:
Rune King Thor Stomps
So Sorry Franklin Richards
I think you intentionally choose the wrong answer in most of your posts. Probably just to get attention.
Or maybe he's just playing Devil's Advocate.
I have known this user on his many accounts since his first appearance. I can tell you with absolute certainty, such a thing is beyond him. You give him far too much credit.
I really thought he wasn't serious about the T-800s beating Spiderman. Are you saying he was?
This thread isnt about the T-800 so dont even bring that up and yes TERMINATOR would own spiderman easily....
@Magethor said:
I really thought he wasn't serious about the T-800s beating Spiderman. Are you saying he was?
Yes. He has always been serious about that stuff. Or at the very least, seriously trolling.
@TERMINATORXX said:
This thread isnt about the T-800 so dont even bring that up and yes TERMINATOR would own spiderman easily....
And there you have it...
@CadenceV2 said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
This.
You know what, I'm going for Thor. Slim is right, Franklin really isn't as powerful as some people say he is. King Thor can just steal his time away or go back in time and destroy his parents. RTK could even do more than that.
@Magethor said:
@CadenceV2 said:
@SlimJ87D said:
Franklin Richard was only able to do what he did because he prepped.
That fight with the celestials was a team up of Frankline Ricahrds and Galactus who started the fight himself and then got charged by Young Franklin Ricahrds energies that he collected and stored for months.
So lets not all exaggerate Franklin Richards fighting the celestials please.
This.
You know what, I'm going for Thor. Slim is right, Franklin really isn't as powerful as some people say he is. King Thor can just steal his time away or go back in time and destroy his parents. RTK could even do more than that.
I would think going back in time to pull a Skynet is considered self-BFR. :p
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