Adamantium Absorbing Man vs WW Hulk (read OP)
In this scenario the Red Skull has tutored and educated Crusher Creel and he is now quite intelligent. Also he has had True Adamantium surgically implanted in his body so he always has access to it in order to absorb it and transform.
Fight takes place in Arizona desert. Absorbing man is transformed to Adamantium prior to the fight. No BFR.
Who wins and why?
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"@comicdude23 said:"World War Hulk slaughters him. "How is He going to damage True Adamantium? "
Normal Hulk has already destroyed it without too much trouble....
"@Squaredcircle said:"@comicdude23 said:Normal Hulk has already destroyed it without too much trouble.... ""World War Hulk slaughters him. "How is He going to damage True Adamantium? "
When did Hulk destroy adamantium?
"@Squaredcircle said:"@comicdude23 said:Normal Hulk has already destroyed it without too much trouble.... ""World War Hulk slaughters him. "How is He going to damage True Adamantium? "
That was secondary Adamantium, not True Adamantium.
Hulk never destroyed true adamantium, he once broke a needle made from it but nothing like creel, he wouldn't be bale to dent him.
As for the win, I have no idea, but WWH has Banners smarts ( or so i hear, not that big into hulk) so I would give it to him.
"World War Hulk slaughters him. "
why? absorbing man does not need any material to become strongr that what peope don't know. he would absorb the energy of someone if he touch him, or this case if wwhulk punch absorbing man, he would instantly will have the strength and durability of wwhulk. this ability is what let him go toe to toe with classic thor. he is no dumb either, in dark reign lethal legion with prep he three shotted the sentry, by absorbing just the right amount of enery. without PIS like luke cage punching him, he could win this. however he is not limited to just absrobr the energy of his opponent, he can also absorb the battle field around and can grow to enormous propertions. absorbing man win this.
" Hulk never destroyed true adamantium, he once broke a needle made from it but nothing like creel, he wouldn't be bale to dent him. As for the win, I have no idea, but WWH has Banners smarts ( or so i hear, not that big into hulk) so I would give it to him. "I'm pretty certain breaking the adamantium needle was ultimate hulk, in that universe adamantium is significantly weaker the 616.
Absorbing man for the win.
"@Squaredcircle said:"Read the OP. This is an intelligent creel. "creel does not have to be "tutored" by red hulk( like he is one the smartest person in the planet, anyways) to be intelligent. the guy is not amadeus cho, but he is not dumb. he takes this "
UMM..he was tutored by red skull in this scenario.
"@blackadam said:"@Squaredcircle said:"Read the OP. This is an intelligent creel. "creel does not have to be "tutored" by red hulk( like he is one the smartest person in the planet, anyways) to be intelligent. the guy is not amadeus cho, but he is not dumb. he takes this "
UMM..he was tutored by red skull in this scenario. "
my bad, i read bad, i thought it was red hulk. still he dos not have tp be tutored by anyone to win this fight.
"@Squaredcircle said:"@blackadam said:my bad, i read bad, i thought it was red hulk. still he dos not have tp be tutored by anyone to win this fight. ""@Squaredcircle said:"Read the OP. This is an intelligent creel. "creel does not have to be "tutored" by red hulk( like he is one the smartest person in the planet, anyways) to be intelligent. the guy is not amadeus cho, but he is not dumb. he takes this "
UMM..he was tutored by red skull in this scenario. "
No he doesnt have to, I wanted whoever won to get the W for a true fighting defeat and not trickery.
"@blackadam said:"@Squaredcircle said:No he doesnt have to, I wanted whoever won to get the W for a true fighting defeat and not trickery. ""@blackadam said:my bad, i read bad, i thought it was red hulk. still he dos not have tp be tutored by anyone to win this fight. ""@Squaredcircle said:"Read the OP. This is an intelligent creel. "creel does not have to be "tutored" by red hulk( like he is one the smartest person in the planet, anyways) to be intelligent. the guy is not amadeus cho, but he is not dumb. he takes this "
UMM..he was tutored by red skull in this scenario. "
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"@Squaredcircle said:"@blackadam said:??? ""@Squaredcircle said:No he doesnt have to, I wanted whoever won to get the W for a true fighting defeat and not trickery. ""@blackadam said:my bad, i read bad, i thought it was red hulk. still he dos not have tp be tutored by anyone to win this fight. ""@Squaredcircle said:"Read the OP. This is an intelligent creel. "creel does not have to be "tutored" by red hulk( like he is one the smartest person in the planet, anyways) to be intelligent. the guy is not amadeus cho, but he is not dumb. he takes this "
UMM..he was tutored by red skull in this scenario. "
Read the OP. In this scenario i had the Red Skull tutor and educate the Absorbing man so no one would say "he's too dumb and hulk out-smarts him". I wanted the battle to be an actual fight and not "hulk convinces creel to absorb a twinkie". Up to speed now?
" without PIS/CIS wwh can not win here without using bfr "I agree with this if bfr is allowed WWhulk can win other wise he loses ..
Crusher would get knocked around the whole planet and not even go down the only way i think WW hulk can win is if he can either
1. bfr him somehow
2. get him to turn to normal and slaughter him
seriously guys? world war hulk who has fought a raging sentry to a stand still and absorbing man is looked at as a threat? wolverine tried to cut hulk's eyes out when world war hulk fought the x men and hulk quickly regenerated his eyes. I can't believe no on has flagged this as a mismatch.
seriously guys? world war hulk who has fought a raging sentry to a stand still and absorbing man is looked at as a threat? wolverine tried to cut hulk's eyes out when world war hulk fought the x men and hulk quickly regenerated his eyes. I can't believe no on has flagged this as a mismatch.
Hulk can't even hurt Absorbing Man here and since there is no battlefield removal, there's not much he can do other than trying to make Creel absorb something less durable.
seriously guys? world war hulk who has fought a raging sentry to a stand still and absorbing man is looked at as a threat? wolverine tried to cut hulk's eyes out when world war hulk fought the x men and hulk quickly regenerated his eyes. I can't believe no on has flagged this as a mismatch.
Hulk can't even hurt Absorbing Man here and since there is no battlefield removal, there's not much he can do other than trying to make Creel absorb something less durable.
savage hulk was able to rip secondary adamantium with little trouble, not to mention the time he ripped wolverine apart. This is worl war hulk, a version incredibly stronger than savage hulk, ww huilk can hurt absorbing man herenot to mention outclass him in tactics,dont forgett this is hulk with banners intellect. WW hulk takes this with some effort.
seriously guys? world war hulk who has fought a raging sentry to a stand still and absorbing man is looked at as a threat? wolverine tried to cut hulk's eyes out when world war hulk fought the x men and hulk quickly regenerated his eyes. I can't believe no on has flagged this as a mismatch.
Hulk can't even hurt Absorbing Man here and since there is no battlefield removal, there's not much he can do other than trying to make Creel absorb something less durable.
savage hulk was able to rip secondary adamantium with little trouble, not to mention the time he ripped wolverine apart. This is worl war hulk, a version incredibly stronger than savage hulk, ww huilk can hurt absorbing man herenot to mention outclass him in tactics,dont forgett this is hulk with banners intellect. WW hulk takes this with some effort.
- Hulk has never ripped Secondary Adamantium.
- That was 1610 Wolverine who isn't fully composed of the metal like the 616 version.
- Hulk still has no way of harming Creel.
Absorbing Man would probably win under these circumstances. His offensive output is impressive even without absorbing indestructible metal.
@heirtothekingdom: sorry i didnt mean rip i meant crack, in the comic it is said to be pure adamantium, so yes he can harm creel. the hulk in the photo has not even the spec of the power ww hulk has. WW hulk takes the battle as i said in the begining.
@heirtothekingdom: lets also not forget when mindless hulk (much weaker than ww hulk) fractured onslaughts armor, something that none of the heroes could do. Again we are talking ww hulk an incredibly stronger version of mindless hulk who is also a very smart tactition. (and if you want to make the arguement that jean grey amped hulk she didnt she just seperated hulk and banner).
@mohammed_alg_92: Only the statue is adamantium. Not the base. Secondly, Marvel retconned any breaking of true adamantium into secondary adamantium.
Just because Hulk broke Onslaught shields Doesn't mean he can break adamantium. None of those heroes could break adamantium either.
seriously guys? world war hulk who has fought a raging sentry to a stand still and absorbing man is looked at as a threat? wolverine tried to cut hulk's eyes out when world war hulk fought the x men and hulk quickly regenerated his eyes. I can't believe no on has flagged this as a mismatch.
seriously guys? world war hulk who has fought a raging sentry to a stand still and absorbing man is looked at as a threat? wolverine tried to cut hulk's eyes out when world war hulk fought the x men and hulk quickly regenerated his eyes. I can't believe no on has flagged this as a mismatch.
Exactly. Absorbing man has nowhere near the damage output to put Hulk down, he has NO way to win. Not a -ONE-
@p00ty: I'm sure these other scans can show you hulk's history with adamantium and how he is able to harm it, not to mention these scans show an incredibly weaker version of the world war hulk we are talking about.
And no matter what people say..... This HAS happened. You don't have to like it, but there it is >.>
@mohammed_alg_92: Those may be weaker versions of Hulk....... but in this thread Hulk is hitting a SOLID piece of adamantium. Not a thin piece of adamantium like Ultron. When AM transforms his entire body becomes adamanitum. His skin, flesh, muscles, bones are all adamantium. Hulk has never come close to breaking a thick-solid piece of adamantium. I agree that AM can't hurt Hulk. But Hulk is not breaking a solid mass of adamantium. But Hulk wins by incapacitaion not by KO or destroying his body.
@mohammed_alg_92: Those may be weaker versions of Hulk....... but in this thread Hulk is hitting a SOLID piece of adamantium. Not a thin piece of adamantium like Ultron. When AM transforms his entire body becomes adamanitum. His skin, flesh, muscles, bones are all adamantium. Hulk has never come close to breaking a thick-solid piece of adamantium. I agree that AM can't hurt Hulk. But Hulk is not breaking a solid mass of adamantium. But Hulk wins by incapacitaion not by KO or destroying his body.
He's a lot stronger in this incarnation. He's got all the time in the world to work. I don't write the comics, so we've SEEN him damage adamantium. This isn't even open to interpretation, the scans speak for themselves. But again, he's got all the time in the world to work since there is nothing AM can do to him, but seeing as this is a very very smart Hulk, he'd likely go for the much easier option and do similar to what he did to Emma Frost.
@20damon: No one disputed that this is a stronger version. Nor that he has damaged adamantium. But he has never damaged anything as solid as Creel. As said, he wins by incapacitation.
The scans that 20damon submitted above are bullshit. Big Hulk fan like him I'm sure is aware that Doom used an adamantium saw to cut off Hulk's skull cap and (finally) separate Banner from the Hulk. I say Creel wins this fight. He usually loses through some plot devicey story. This one allows for CIS to be shut off, and a smarter version of Creel is fighting, not dummy Creel.
@20damon: No one disputed that this is a stronger version. Nor that he has damaged adamantium. But he has never damaged anything as solid as Creel. As said, he wins by incapacitation.
The scans that 20damon submitted above are bullshit. Big Hulk fan like him I'm sure is aware that Doom used an adamantium saw to cut off Hulk's skull cap and (finally) separate Banner from the Hulk. I say Creel wins this fight. He usually loses through some plot devicey story. This one allows for CIS to be shut off, and a smarter version of Creel is fighting, not dummy Creel.
The scans are bullshit? I suddenly write the comics? Yes, Doom used an adamantium saw to do it because Hulk let him. You know, the same Hulk whose powers grow with his anger and LOWER when he is calm and actually lets people do stuff to him. As always when it comes to Hulk, your response is: "It's bullshit because i don't want this to be true". Why exactly are they bullshit? Also you say Creel wins. Provide feats with him showing sufficient offensive power to take down someone like Green Scar. You can change my mind if you provide enough, he is made of Adamantium after all.
"No one disputed that this is a stronger version. Nor that he has damaged adamantium. But he has never damaged anything as solid as Creel. As said, he wins by incapacitation."
He's never had to damage anything as solid as Creel, but he is a LOT stronger here, he has all the time in the world to pound on him repeatedly or rip an arm off with leverage over time. If he can damage adamtium like that, he can damage more solid adamatium over time for sure.
Whoa... that's hard! Very difficult to do an opinion... However... Great thread @squaredcircle!
@20damon: I completely disagree that he can rip off Creels arm. To thick. To solid. And Creel, unlike Emma Frost has legitimate strength feats against Hulk and Thor. And the fight takes place in the desert. Creel can transform into sand and get out of Hulk's grasp. If Creel stays in steel form then Hulk wins by incapacitation. If he becomes sand then a thunderclap is a win. But ripping Creel apart or battering him to pieces(especially since he can become sand) is not happening.
And no matter what people say..... This HAS happened. You don't have to like it, but there it is >.>
- We don't know if that Ultron was made of Admamantium. And even if he was, logically Hulk broke his joint which wasn't made of Admamantium. And even if it was, it is totally inconsistent showing
- As high end as it gets.
- Durability feat.
I mean come on mate, people stronger than Hulk failed to damage Adamantium. Even Hulk failed to damage Adamantium more times than he actually damaged it. One or two instances do not change decades of consistency.
@20damon: I completely disagree that he can rip off Creels arm. To thick. To solid. And Creel, unlike Emma Frost has legitimate strength feats against Hulk and Thor. And the fight takes place in the desert. Creel can transform into sand and get out of Hulk's grasp. If Creel stays in steel form then Hulk wins by incapacitation. If he becomes sand then a thunderclap is a win. But ripping Creel apart or battering him to pieces(especially since he can become sand) is not happening.
You don't have to agree with me. Hulk in much weaker versions is proven to be able to damage adamantium through a single punch or a rip. Making Creed solid just means it'll take more time. I am pretty sure the battle was made with it in mind that Hulk was unable to damage him. Well, he -is- able to damage him, him being solid doesn't change that, only changes the amount of time it takes. Hulk being able to damage him means the outcome of this fight is never in question.
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