Achillies vs Witch King

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#1  Edited By SilverSurfa

I dunno y every1 keeps say that witch king cant be killed by a man, he can just not one of middle earth. Anyway Achillies is not a man ( i dont mean he is a girl), so who would win?

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#2  Edited By ThisIsGonnaHurt

Witch-king.

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#3  Edited By SilverSurfa

Achilles the one from the greek Myth and the movie Troy not the marvel 1.

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#4  Edited By Logic Mark III

Achilles the standard one from Myth or the one from the Olympian Pantheon in Marvel.....i think neither are human anyway so yeah With King catches a sword to the side of the neck.

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#5  Edited By SilverSurfa

Achillies from the greek myth and movie troy.

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#6  Edited By Logic Mark III

wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it.

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#7  Edited By SilverSurfa

acutally i dun really think its a fair fight either cuz achillies is extremely fast and agile while witch king is slow

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#8  Edited By ThisIsGonnaHurt

Logic Mark III says:

"wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it."

His mother was mortal, I think. He was dipped in the River Styx to become immortal and superhumanly strong expect for his heel, which wasn't dipped in the water. That's how he died and how we got "Achilles' Heel".

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#9  Edited By Scarlet Thor

His mother was the goddess Thetis and she did make him invulnerable by bathing him is the waters of the river Styx

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#10  Edited By Logic Mark III

Yep he kills Witch king on account of being not human.

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#11  Edited By ThisIsGonnaHurt

Feh. Tears up the ticket he bought to win $100 if Witch-king won.

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#12  Edited By Vrakmul

No MALE can kill the witch king, a five year old girl can kill him, not a level 417462178386109216301623 male fighter.

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#14  Edited By Ares Truth

i say witch king.........achilles is a man and men cant kill the witchking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#15  Edited By AtPhantom
The Rookie said:
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That's Lich king, not Witch king. Pay attention.
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#16  Edited By AtPhantom
The Rookie said:
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That's Lich king, not Witch king. Pay attention.
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#17  Edited By Vrakmul

Irregardless, the Lich king can't touch the Witch king, because both component entities of the Lich King are male.   However with a Decent shot gun and a lot of courage I could beat the Witch King, however because both he and his mount are masters of fear I honestly doubt I could get the shot off before I would die.  Yes I'm female, stop being so shocked about it, you've been told for fifty billion times. 

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#18  Edited By The Rookie
AtPhantom said:
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That's Lich king, not Witch king. Pay attention."
I see it says witch king I felt like posting a pic of the Lich king
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#19  Edited By AtPhantom

Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off.

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#20  Edited By Vrakmul
AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
Everything is a rip-off of something, you can trace anything's origins and find it's  a copy of something else.
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#21  Edited By The Rookie
AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
he sucks because hes a rip off? lol
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#22  Edited By Vrakmul
The Rookie said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
he sucks because hes a rip off? lol"
He has a misleading title.  He is neither a spell casting skeleton, nor does he have a phylactery. 
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#23  Edited By The Rookie

run that by me again lol

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#24  Edited By AtPhantom
The Rookie said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
he sucks because hes a rip off? lol"
yes. They went out of their way to make him the same as their other evil corrupted dark lord/lady
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#25  Edited By The Rookie

I dont think the lich king sucks lol saying he sucks because you say hes a rip off is stupid.

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#26  Edited By The Rookie

just say you dont like him heh

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#27  Edited By Vrakmul
The Rookie said:
"run that by me again lol"
A lich king, should be a lich himself. 
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#28  Edited By AtPhantom

I don't like him, lol

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#29  Edited By The Rookie
Dreadnaught said:
"The Rookie said:
"run that by me again lol"
A lich king, should be a lich himself.  "
hes the King of the lich.. he controls them..also once he got the forstmourne didnt he become undead?
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#30  Edited By Vrakmul
The Rookie said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"The Rookie said:
"run that by me again lol"
A lich king, should be a lich himself.  "
hes the King of the lich.. he controls them..also once he got the forstmourne didnt he become undead?"
No he just became bonkers.
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#31  Edited By The Rookie

his profile says Undead body... human spirit.

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#32  Edited By Vrakmul
The Rookie said:
"his profile says Undead body... human spirit."
If he was undead he'd be a rotten skeleton by now.
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#33  Edited By Kataklysmo
I knew the myth says something would happen to Achilles if he was dipped all the way, but it was retarded his mother didn't do it all the way.
Achilles would become Superman and stomp all the Trojans and the invading Romans.

However the Witch King and his magical department beats near superman Achilles in a great fight
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#34  Edited By Espada
Logic Mark III said:
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wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it.

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No, that was Anneus

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Logic Mark III says:

"wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it."

His mother was mortal, I think. He was dipped in the River Styx to become immortal and superhumanly strong expect for his heel, which wasn't dipped in the water. That's how he died and how we got "Achilles' Heel".

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Pretty much correct

Witch-King wins.

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#35  Edited By Korg

Witch-king wins. What is Achilles going to do, throw a spear at him? If Achilles was a popular character in comic books, I'd say this was a spite thread.

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#36  Edited By Vrakmul

It matters not if someone is human or not, it only matters if they aren't female, only women can defeat the Witch king, that leaves an interesting question for hermaphrodites. 

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#37  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

No...the wording was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall”....therefore anyone not of the race of men should be able to kill him.

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#38  Edited By Korg

There's no way in hell the Witch-king is going to let Achilles get anywhere near him. He's a powerful sorcerer, and doubt he'd need to hit Achilles in the heel with an arrow to kill him.


Lunacyde said:
"No...the wording was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall”....therefore anyone not of the race of men should be able to kill him."
This didn't stop him from terrifying the elves as well.
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#39  Edited By Vrakmul
Lunacyde said:
"No...the wording was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall”....therefore anyone not of the race of men should be able to kill him."
A human woman killed him, HUMAN WOMAN
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#40  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Yea, but that doesnt prove someone of a different race couldnt. There is more than one variable at play here.

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#41  Edited By Korg

So why didn't Glorfindel and his elves kill him?

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#42  Edited By Vrakmul
Lunacyde said:
"Yea, but that doesnt prove someone of a different race couldnt. There is more than one variable at play here."
The merry, or was it pippin, could only annoy him. 
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#43  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

I agree that Witch king wins this battle, I only meant to say that possibly someone who wasnt of the rac eof man could kill him. Also death isnt necessary for victory...or is this a fight only to the death? Sorry I didnt read the set up.

Anyways I don't know, all I know is that the prophecy was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall" It didnt say "not by the hand of A man will he fall", or "Not by the hand of elves will he fall", or anything else along those lines.

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#44  Edited By Korg
Dreadnaught said:
"The merry, or was it pippin, could only annoy him.  "
Merry helped take him down, using an enchanted blade of Arnor.
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#45  Edited By Vrakmul
Korg said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"The merry, or was it pippin, could only annoy him.  "
Merry helped take him down, using an enchanted blade of Arnor.
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He caused him to reel in pain leaving him open for his second death *he is undead after all*
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#46  Edited By Korg

I don't know about you, but when I reel in pain, I consider it more than a mere annoyance. Merry with the assist!

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#47  Edited By Vrakmul
Korg said:
"I don't know about you, butwhen I reel in pain, I consider it more than a mere annoyance. Merry with the assist!"
As he is undead, pain is just an annoyance, it won't bother you any further than that.  After all he can be set on fire with practically zero injury.
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#48  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Yea it's a bit more than a mere annoyance. The Witch King was in a great deal of pain.

Merry had time to call Eowyn's name twice, and she had time to struggle from her knees and strike with her sword at his head, while the wraith remained bent over in bitter pain.

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#49  Edited By Vrakmul
Lunacyde said:
"Yea it's a bit more than a mere annoyance. The Witch King was in a great deal of pain.Merry had time to call Eowyn's name twice, and she had time to struggle from her knees and strike with her sword at his head, while the wraith remained bent over in bitter pain. "
How is being stabbed more painful than being set on fire? 
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#50  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
Elmer Fudd wins