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#1 Posted by SilverSurfa (256 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno y every1 keeps say that witch king cant be killed by a man, he can just not one of middle earth. Anyway Achillies is not a man ( i dont mean he is a girl), so who would win?

#2 Posted by ThisIsGonnaHurt (30177 posts) - - Show Bio

Witch-king.

#3 Posted by SilverSurfa (256 posts) - - Show Bio

Achilles the one from the greek Myth and the movie Troy not the marvel 1.

#4 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Achilles the standard one from Myth or the one from the Olympian Pantheon in Marvel.....i think neither are human anyway so yeah With King catches a sword to the side of the neck.

#5 Posted by SilverSurfa (256 posts) - - Show Bio

Achillies from the greek myth and movie troy.

#6 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it.

#7 Posted by SilverSurfa (256 posts) - - Show Bio

acutally i dun really think its a fair fight either cuz achillies is extremely fast and agile while witch king is slow

#8 Posted by ThisIsGonnaHurt (30177 posts) - - Show Bio

Logic Mark III says:

"wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it."

His mother was mortal, I think. He was dipped in the River Styx to become immortal and superhumanly strong expect for his heel, which wasn't dipped in the water. That's how he died and how we got "Achilles' Heel".

#9 Posted by Scarlet Thor (1112 posts) - - Show Bio

His mother was the goddess Thetis and she did make him invulnerable by bathing him is the waters of the river Styx

#10 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep he kills Witch king on account of being not human.

#11 Posted by ThisIsGonnaHurt (30177 posts) - - Show Bio

Feh. Tears up the ticket he bought to win $100 if Witch-king won.

#12 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio

No MALE can kill the witch king, a five year old girl can kill him, not a level 417462178386109216301623 male fighter.

#13 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio


#14 Posted by Ares Truth (3 posts) - - Show Bio

i say witch king.........achilles is a man and men cant kill the witchking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#15 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
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That's Lich king, not Witch king. Pay attention.
#16 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
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That's Lich king, not Witch king. Pay attention.
#17 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio

Irregardless, the Lich king can't touch the Witch king, because both component entities of the Lich King are male.   However with a Decent shot gun and a lot of courage I could beat the Witch King, however because both he and his mount are masters of fear I honestly doubt I could get the shot off before I would die.  Yes I'm female, stop being so shocked about it, you've been told for fifty billion times. 

#18 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"The Rookie said:
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That's Lich king, not Witch king. Pay attention."
I see it says witch king I felt like posting a pic of the Lich king
#19 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off.

#20 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
Everything is a rip-off of something, you can trace anything's origins and find it's  a copy of something else.
#21 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
he sucks because hes a rip off? lol
#22 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
he sucks because hes a rip off? lol"
He has a misleading title.  He is neither a spell casting skeleton, nor does he have a phylactery. 
#23 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio

run that by me again lol

#24 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Lich king sucks. He's a Kerrigan rip off."
he sucks because hes a rip off? lol"
yes. They went out of their way to make him the same as their other evil corrupted dark lord/lady
#25 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think the lich king sucks lol saying he sucks because you say hes a rip off is stupid.

#26 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio

just say you dont like him heh

#27 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
"run that by me again lol"
A lich king, should be a lich himself. 
#28 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like him, lol

#29 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio
Dreadnaught said:
"The Rookie said:
"run that by me again lol"
A lich king, should be a lich himself.  "
hes the King of the lich.. he controls them..also once he got the forstmourne didnt he become undead?
#30 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"The Rookie said:
"run that by me again lol"
A lich king, should be a lich himself.  "
hes the King of the lich.. he controls them..also once he got the forstmourne didnt he become undead?"
No he just became bonkers.
#31 Posted by The Rookie (3126 posts) - - Show Bio

his profile says Undead body... human spirit.

#32 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
The Rookie said:
"his profile says Undead body... human spirit."
If he was undead he'd be a rotten skeleton by now.
#33 Posted by Kataklysmo (859 posts) - - Show Bio
I knew the myth says something would happen to Achilles if he was dipped all the way, but it was retarded his mother didn't do it all the way.
Achilles would become Superman and stomp all the Trojans and the invading Romans.

However the Witch King and his magical department beats near superman Achilles in a great fight
#34 Posted by Espada (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
Logic Mark III said:
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wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it.

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No, that was Anneus

Warsman said:
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Logic Mark III says:

"wasnt his mother Aphrodite? making him not human, he takes it."

His mother was mortal, I think. He was dipped in the River Styx to become immortal and superhumanly strong expect for his heel, which wasn't dipped in the water. That's how he died and how we got "Achilles' Heel".

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Pretty much correct

Witch-King wins.

#35 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Witch-king wins. What is Achilles going to do, throw a spear at him? If Achilles was a popular character in comic books, I'd say this was a spite thread.

#36 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio

It matters not if someone is human or not, it only matters if they aren't female, only women can defeat the Witch king, that leaves an interesting question for hermaphrodites. 

#37 Posted by Lunacyde (19126 posts) - - Show Bio

No...the wording was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall”....therefore anyone not of the race of men should be able to kill him.

#38 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no way in hell the Witch-king is going to let Achilles get anywhere near him. He's a powerful sorcerer, and doubt he'd need to hit Achilles in the heel with an arrow to kill him.


Lunacyde said:
"No...the wording was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall”....therefore anyone not of the race of men should be able to kill him."
This didn't stop him from terrifying the elves as well.
#39 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"No...the wording was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall”....therefore anyone not of the race of men should be able to kill him."
A human woman killed him, HUMAN WOMAN
#40 Edited by Lunacyde (19126 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea, but that doesnt prove someone of a different race couldnt. There is more than one variable at play here.

#41 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

So why didn't Glorfindel and his elves kill him?

#42 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"Yea, but that doesnt prove someone of a different race couldnt. There is more than one variable at play here."
The merry, or was it pippin, could only annoy him. 
#43 Posted by Lunacyde (19126 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree that Witch king wins this battle, I only meant to say that possibly someone who wasnt of the rac eof man could kill him. Also death isnt necessary for victory...or is this a fight only to the death? Sorry I didnt read the set up.

Anyways I don't know, all I know is that the prophecy was “not by the hand of Man shall he fall" It didnt say "not by the hand of A man will he fall", or "Not by the hand of elves will he fall", or anything else along those lines.

#44 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Dreadnaught said:
"The merry, or was it pippin, could only annoy him.  "
Merry helped take him down, using an enchanted blade of Arnor.
#45 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"Dreadnaught said:
"The merry, or was it pippin, could only annoy him.  "
Merry helped take him down, using an enchanted blade of Arnor.
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He caused him to reel in pain leaving him open for his second death *he is undead after all*
#46 Edited by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know about you, but when I reel in pain, I consider it more than a mere annoyance. Merry with the assist!

#47 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"I don't know about you, butwhen I reel in pain, I consider it more than a mere annoyance. Merry with the assist!"
As he is undead, pain is just an annoyance, it won't bother you any further than that.  After all he can be set on fire with practically zero injury.
#48 Posted by Lunacyde (19126 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea it's a bit more than a mere annoyance. The Witch King was in a great deal of pain.

Merry had time to call Eowyn's name twice, and she had time to struggle from her knees and strike with her sword at his head, while the wraith remained bent over in bitter pain.

#49 Posted by Vrakmul (23849 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"Yea it's a bit more than a mere annoyance. The Witch King was in a great deal of pain.Merry had time to call Eowyn's name twice, and she had time to struggle from her knees and strike with her sword at his head, while the wraith remained bent over in bitter pain. "
How is being stabbed more painful than being set on fire? 
#50 Posted by King Saturn (224205 posts) - - Show Bio
Elmer Fudd wins