Achilles vs Batman

-no prep -fight happens in a the Roman Colosseum
-Batman gets his standard gear batarangs, grapple hooks, gas pellets, only minus explosives (that could be unfair
- Achilles gets a standard bronze shield,spear, sword, and two ankle daggers
-morals on for Batman
who wins??

Batman is a overall better fighter. Achilles showed some pretty impressive feats but Bats still outclasses him.

Batman has stuff that even don't exict in our time ( at least the bigger part ) and Achilles is only a strong warrior with swords and other old weapons. Here is really easy do decide who will win.

Clearly no one here paid attention to the movie.. Achilles was fast, smart and great in combat. He was NO curbstomp

 If Will Turner wouldn't have shot him from the distance when he was distracted no one would of beaten him in his time

Now Batman has the advantage BECAUSE of his many fighting styles from all over the world and modern age tech advantage. BUT Achilles wont be a puppy dog

Remember that Achilles in that movie took a whole beach filled with the enemy army and he only took 25 men and defeated Hector the greatest among Troyans.  That is greatness.

I got the impression that the Achilles from the "Troy" movie was supposed to be more in line with how things and people probably were; no gods, no invulnerability, nothing mystical or mythical at all.  Just bronze age warriors fighting a war.  Thus, with this being that Achilles (the one who wasn't invulnerable), I say Batman wins and does so fairly easily.

Achilles seemed pretty invulnerable in that movie, until Huntress came out of nowhere with his skirt and bow. Batman would probably know that Achilles only weakness is his ankle/heel, but Bats would probably make quick work of him with evasiveness and tactics. He IS Batman.

@cascadeking09: It's been a while, and I only watched the movie once, but I remember Achilles mocking the gods as if they weren't real. 

@cascadeking09: That's exactly it; he wasn't afraid of them because he didn't believe in them.

@cascadeking09: 
He'd say it to mock belief in the gods. 

He cut off the head of the statue to prove that he, or anyone else, could desecrate and/or mock the gods with impunity because they don't exist.

@cascadeking09: 
He'd say it to mock belief in the gods. 

He cut off the head of the statue to prove that he, or anyone else, could desecrate and/or mock the gods with impunity because they don't exist.

                    @PowerHerc said:

@cascadeking09: 
He'd say it to mock belief in the gods. 

He cut off the head of the statue to prove that he, or anyone else, could desecrate and/or mock the gods with impunity because they don't exist.

I think you have a very strange way of interpreting things. It wouldn't make any sense to say he's seen something to mock it, to me that sounds more like him thinking "I've met Apollo before, he won't care about this stupid statue."

                   

               

You can think it's strange if you want to, but it absolutely makes sense to say he's seen something that everyone else believes in, but he doesn't, as a way to mock it. 

It's more like "Apollo's gonna come down here and kick my ass?!?  Yeah, right!  Sure he is. Hah!"

@cascadeking09: 
Dude, I'm not trying to get you worked up or anything.  It's my opinion that the depiction of Achilles in the movie 'Troy' was as a non-believer in the ancient Greek religion.  He's still a warrior and a very good one at that.  So if he's not exactly debating about theology or trying to convince others that the gods don't exist with a lot of dialogueon the field of battle, I think that's natural and very believable. 

If you don't see it, I'm obviously not going to convince you.  That's okay.  I'm not calling your view strange or nonsense, we just disagree.  To me; the movie/Brad Pitt Achilles was a highly skilled ancient badass warrior with no divine powers whatsover whom also didn't believe in the gods of the time.  To you; he believed in the gods and he even met Apollo once and knew what would offend him or not. 

We simply see it differently.

@PowerHerc: How does that make sense? Wouldn't he say something more like "Have your priests ever seen a god?" or something like that if he didn't believe? Why would he have more knowledge than people who dedicate their lives to learning on something that he doesn't believe in? It would be a huge waste of time that he doesn't even have while fighting in wars and being called into battle.

@cascadeking09: 
Dude, I'm not trying to get you worked up or anything.  It's my opinion that the depiction of Achilles in the movie 'Troy' was as a non-believer in the ancient Greek religion.  He's still a warrior and a very good one at that.  So if he's not exactly debating about theology or trying to convince others that the gods don't exist with a lot of dialogueon the field of battle, I think that's natural and very believable. 

 

If you don't see it, I'm obviously not going to convince you.  That's okay.  I'm not calling your view strange or nonsense, we just disagree.  To me; the movie/Brad Pitt Achilles was a highly skilled ancient badass warrior with no divine powers whatsover whom also didn't believe in the gods of the time.  To you; he believed in the gods and he even met Apollo once and knew what would offend him or not. 

 

We simply see it differently.

@Picard: do you anything about Achilles. Achilles has one weeknes and i dont think batmans going to find out, Achilles is a demi god. Batmna gets a spear throuh his chest 

Achiles is 10 times more badass in the book. Like i said if its book he wins, if its movie he looses

batman would know achilles weakness, and win

how old is powerherc? he isn't very observant

Batman

You bumped a 4 year old thread to say this about a veteran debater? I can tell you one thing, PowerHerc isn't the unobservant one here.

Also, comic Batman stomps.

Batman.

Is this the mythical Achilles the one with unbreakable skin. If not he looses if he does it would be like Luke cage vs batman.