Ace (One Piece) vs Natsu (Fairy Tail)

Who would win?

This is current Natsu and Ace up to the point of death.

Location: Deserted island

Mindset: Bloodlusted.

i was thinking about this today i think natsu will win cos he can eat ace's fire

Natsu is above ace as far as i know.

Natsu.

I just noticed that Logias can take over bodies when eaten.

D: Is it possible to make kakigōri out of Aokiji? P.N. Baka-Inu

O: Yes, it's possible. After-all, he's ice. But, eating it might be a different story. He might return to Aokiji in your stomach and take control of you

SBS Volume 71

Besides that, if you scale Ace to any one of WhiteBeard's Division Commanders or Luffy, Ace is far superior.Not to mention that Ace can use the concussive force of his Fire attacks to hurt Natsu or constantly feed Natsu 'til he can't anymore and use Hiken.

Either way, it's a stomp for Ace.

Natsu stomp, not only can he est him but has better striking power, plus stronger fire beats weaker fire so he can hurt him while none of ace attacks would hurt natsu, so yeah natsu takes the majority

If you take away the BS pointless powerscaling, and Assumtions and actually go by raw feats.

Jimbei Luffy and Ace comparison (which doesn't equal actually feats to go off of because of the Fight with Ace ad Jimbei was years before.. we don't know the power levels we don't know the details of the fight)

That Whitebeard encounter (which shouldn't be used because.. yea I really shouldn't have to explain that actually)

The Blackbeard encounter (which wasn't a good showing for Ace.)

Natsu has shown better strength, agility durability and SPEED.. ACE.. IS.. FEATLESS with speed don't even compare him to G2 Luffy theres nothing that proves that. It's all vs assumtions based off something that has nothing to do with Aceim the first place.

Natsu is immune to any fire (Fire, Het, Explosions) power Ace can dish out..

Iirc Ace doesn't have to ENOUGH feats to say he could k.o Natsu.

Natsu Stomps.

That's not how it works and Ace has displayed and Island AoE attack with Hiken and if you think he has better striking power than any one of the WhiteBeard Division Commanders or Luffy, than I disagree.Not to mention that Ace,scaling to Jinbe, is faster and more durable than Natsu.

"Later after his death, it was revealed that Ace's burning fists also had the power to annihilate entire cities"

Don't show me Natsu's "Island" Level feat.

He isn't.It's a long ranged attack and city level at best.Natsu's DC attacks won't kill Ace or even negate his attacks.

@sondeatheater: Seems like you are begging to not counter your argument. haha

Natsu

Edit: after reading the crap i said i'm just going to leave this message here

Natsu stomps and that's the truth. Hyperbole, Hype and powerscaling is what Ace is made of. He's featless. So once again, Natsu stomps

Natsu eats Ace, Ace reforms as a human and it kills Natsu.

Once again you are just scaling and using hyperbole. Feats are concrete evidence which Ace doesn't have. Natsu's faster, more durable and has better strength anyway, striking and lifting.

I don't know what feat you're talking about so I'll address two, on Tenrou Island, the Lightning Flame roar was easily large city++, as for when he shattered that "god", it's also large city++ (This is lowballing actually).

Ace do literally absolutely nothing to harm Natsu

@sondeatheater: Ace's Dai Enkai Entei is island level I think is what you mean as seen in his fight with Blackbeard, his Hiken isn't

@kingzod: Lol what? Ace isn't featless but Natsu does win, he's a bad match for Ace

He doesn't have the feats to back up how strong he's "supposed" to be. Yeah he really is

Ace wins, OMM says so.... duh.

Natsu.

Natsu, easy to mid diff at best.

Like Ace is supposed be say Jozu's level right or even Aokiji's, he was stated as around that level but doesn't have enough concrete feats to back it up. You can correct me if I'm wrong though.

@leo-343 said:

@kingzod said:

Like Ace is supposed be say Jozu's level right or even Aokiji's, he was stated as around that level but doesn't have enough concrete feats to back it up. You can correct me if I'm wrong though.

He gave a Blackbeard a great fight and matched him in DC with an attack that covered nearly half an island and would have been almost island level in range had it not been met with a more powerful attack:

Furthermore all of Whitebeard's commanders showed the ability to hold their own against the Admirals and Ace is no exception:

All things considered though this does not make Ace nor any of the Whitebeard commanders Admiral level, they can simply give them a fight much like Sabo vs Fujitora though that was an extended battle and not like the brief clashes we saw during the War of the Best.

Yeah but aren't these all power-scaling (aside from the Blackbeard one, it's actually a good feat). Well to be fair you did say that doesn't put him on Admiral level so I guess I'm okay with all your points.

Ace

Why was this thread bumped?

For the love of god, these one piece fanboys are making me sick. They just cant accept the fact that ace is severely outclassed by natsu.

This is ridiculous. Natsu can eat fire. Ace is made of fire. Natsu stomps.

It's like a sun trying to fight superman, it won't work.

Ace. Natsu will just try to eat him and then he'll just turn back to human when he's at the mouth.

Still Natsu

@errorofthedamned: not sure how that will work when he becomes a part of Natsu

@comicvine2: Natsu tries to absorb Ace , Ace turns to non logia form before he is fully eaten .

@errorofthedamned: he would be dead as he becomes part of the fire in his belly

@comicvine2: When some of Aces flames are near the mouth.

@errorofthedamned: doubt any flame would remain when he sucks him up good

You One Piece fan boys need to just give it a rest. Natsu is the FIRE DRAGON SLAYER. In the beginning of the anime, Natsu fought Bora and Bora took out multiple buildings at once(I don't think Natsu was high tier building buster at the beginning) yet Natsu defeated him. I'm not saying since Natsu defeated Bora then Natsu will defeat Ace, I'm saying Natsu is immune to flames.

If Ace tries to attack Natsu, the flames will have no effect on him and he'll just eat them and dish them straight back. And there is no such thing as too much fire for Natsu. If Natsu can handle the flames of a God, he can handle Ace's flames. And let's say there was too much flames, Natsu could just stop eating it and the rest of the flames wouldn't affect him.

If Natsu ate Ace, he simply becomes part of Natsu and GG, but I don't think Natsu would eat him because that sounds sick. Oh, I almost forgot: Lightning Flame Dragon Mode.

@dontae123000: And Ace himself are flames. He's intangible.

@dontae123000: True, there are two scnearios

Either natsu eats ace or natsu kills him with lightning which is a hotter element. Natsu is literally a bad dream for any fire logia no matter how high stats(speed,strength or durability) they have. Heck any dragon,demon or god slayer is a predator for a logia

@comicvine2: By that, I meant when the starting part of the flames are near his mouth.

@errorofthedamned: not sure if ace can form up if in flames being forcefully sucked in and becoming part of his body/magic

@samconery: Also since magma was able to harm Ace and other elemental attacks are able to harm logias, wouldn't Natsu be able to hit him since his flames are of higher intensity and his flames do usually have physical damage?

@dontae123000: no doubt

@dontae123000: By higher intensity, you mean higher temperature, like heat?

@errorofthedamned: Yeah.

@dontae123000: Here's a scan :P

Ace destroys him

@errorofthedamned said:

@dontae123000: Here's a scan :P

The fact that Ace was burned by normal magma means that Natsu's flames would destroy him.

Mismatch. Ace gets blitzed and one-shoted by Natsu. Currently Natsu can blitz and one-shot the verse by powerscaling and calcul