#1 Posted by alternative_backup (661 posts) - - Show Bio

vs.

Chaos War Hercules:

Who win this fight for everything?

#2 Edited by alternative_backup (661 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

Chaos War Herc wins handily. Abraxas is overrated for defeating a bunchload of featless Galacti.

#4 Posted by FANNYBUSTER (129 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite in favor of Abraxas

#5 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

Chaos War Hercules curbstomps.

#6 Posted by FANNYBUSTER (129 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc:

Hes not biased atall guys!, nothing to see here

#7 Edited by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc:

Hes not biased atall guys!, nothing to see here

Ah, the gnat makes a noise. A small noise.

#8 Edited by FANNYBUSTER (129 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc said:

@fannybuster said:

@powerherc:

Hes not biased atall guys!, nothing to see here

Ah, the gnat makes a noise. A small noise.

Powerherc: Gggg.naa....................... WHAM!

A floored herc, where he belongs, counting the cracks within the concrete.

#9 Edited by ownagepants (4656 posts) - - Show Bio

abraxas can manipulate the fabric of reality and his strength is incalculable and his powers are limitless so for now i am gonna say he wins.

#10 Posted by PowerHerc (85336 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc said:

@fannybuster said:

@powerherc:

Hes not biased atall guys!, nothing to see here

Ah, the gnat makes a noise. A small noise.

Powerherc: Gggg.naa....................... WHAM!

A floored herc, where he belongs, counting the cracks within the concrete.

Y U mad?

#11 Posted by Baron_von_Santa (4868 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerherc: he does not know what he is saying. and @FANNYBUSTER@: if you can just prove why he wins we will listen and properly debate with you if you have the ability to do so yourself

#12 Posted by JwwProd (10584 posts) - - Show Bio

Chaos War Hercules.

#13 Edited by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

Abraxas has a whole lot of implied power, but very limited feats given his actual status.

He is the anti-thesis, of one the most powerful abstract in the marvel universe, Eternity (sort of like Chaos King himself). His mere presence was causing realities (universes) to fold upon itself, destroying them. He did, in one move, kill every version of Reed Richards across the multiverse , but driven by plot, he spares the 616 version of Reed Richards to make him watch, something that came to bite him in the bum.

He killed a whole bunch of alternate reality Galactus.

But that is sort of where his feats end. While i believe Abraxas was created more in line to be as powerful s Chaos King himself rather than Chaos War Hercules (although yeah Abraxas needed the ultimate nullifier to destroyed the multiverse entire rather than his own inherent powers, so that sort of question is output), he is just limited by feats.

Hard to decide but apart from fighting Chaos King, and clearly losing , Hercules himself has little feats to put him above a prime abstract or its anti-thesis.

Its more even then people think.

#14 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

The best thing that Abraxas did, the way i see it, was that his presence did upset the balance of the whole multiverse (and iirc Reed stated that reality warping is nothing to Abraxas, implying that it doesn't affect him). Also, it should be noted that it's not like CK one shotted the multiverse, he took his time in destroying it. There's also the fact that the thor annual retcons CK's position to a minor abstract, oblivion is supposedly an equal to eternity, yet CK was retconned into being an aspect of him.

Remember that Herc also restored most of the multiverse, that's a pretty solid feat.

I agree that it's pretty even.

#15 Edited by JwwProd (10584 posts) - - Show Bio

@rolldestroyer said:

@killemall:

The best thing that Abraxas did, the way i see it, was that his presence did upset the balance of the whole multiverse (and iirc Reed stated that reality warping is nothing to Abraxas, implying that it doesn't affect him). Also, it should be noted that it's not like CK one shotted the multiverse, he took his time in destroying it. There's also the fact that the thor annual retcons CK's position to a minor abstract, oblivion is supposedly an equal to eternity, yet CK was retconned into being an aspect of him.

Remember that Herc also restored most of the multiverse, that's a pretty solid feat.

I agree that it's pretty even.

#16 Posted by lol (5388 posts) - - Show Bio

Abraxas has a whole lot of implied power, but very limited feats given his actual status.

He is the anti-thesis, of one the most powerful abstract in the marvel universe, Eternity (sort of like Chaos King himself). His mere presence was causing realities (universes) to fold upon itself, destroying them. He did, in one move, kill every version of Reed Richards across the multiverse , but driven by plot, he spares the 616 version of Reed Richards to make him watch, something that came to bite him in the bum.

He killed a whole bunch of alternate reality Galactus.

But that is sort of where his feats end. While i believe Abraxas was created more in line to be as powerful s Chaos King himself rather than Chaos War Hercules (although yeah Abraxas needed the ultimate nullifier to destroyed the multiverse entire rather than his own inherent powers, so that sort of question is output), he is just limited by feats.

Hard to decide but apart from fighting Chaos King, and clearly losing , Hercules himself has little feats to put him above a prime abstract or its anti-thesis.

Its more even then people think.

He doesn't needed the ultimate nullifier to destroy the multiverse entire he only wish the UN because he doesn't wish the UN destroy him

#17 Edited by alternative_backup (661 posts) - - Show Bio
@lol said:

@killemall said:

Abraxas has a whole lot of implied power, but very limited feats given his actual status.

He is the anti-thesis, of one the most powerful abstract in the marvel universe, Eternity (sort of like Chaos King himself). His mere presence was causing realities (universes) to fold upon itself, destroying them. He did, in one move, kill every version of Reed Richards across the multiverse , but driven by plot, he spares the 616 version of Reed Richards to make him watch, something that came to bite him in the bum.

He killed a whole bunch of alternate reality Galactus.

But that is sort of where his feats end. While i believe Abraxas was created more in line to be as powerful s Chaos King himself rather than Chaos War Hercules (although yeah Abraxas needed the ultimate nullifier to destroyed the multiverse entire rather than his own inherent powers, so that sort of question is output), he is just limited by feats.

Hard to decide but apart from fighting Chaos King, and clearly losing , Hercules himself has little feats to put him above a prime abstract or its anti-thesis.

Its more even then people think.

He doesn't needed the ultimate nullifier to destroy the multiverse entire he only wish the UN because he doesn't wish the UN destroy him

Abraxas needed the UN to destroy the multiverse. This was stated by Reed Richards. Here the scan:

And here the manual that confirms:

#18 Posted by lol (5388 posts) - - Show Bio