Above Herald Tier Bracket

Rules

• Morals are off
• Win by any means besides BFR
• Everyone gets fully healed after each fight
• Standard gear (Majestic does have the creation blades)
• Fight takes place in Asgard

Who wins and why?

• Wally
• Fernus
• Adam
• Majestic
• Sentry
• Gorr
• Despero
• Prime.

• Wally
• Adam
• Gorr
• Despero

• Wally
• Gorr

Winner: Wally

Thanos.

Then Thanos replicates himself and wins twice.

Majestros

@highaccuser Why would Despero lose to Gorr? He has no answer to his TP.

Gorr

H'El is not above herald level BTW.

Gorr might be too powerful overall for that...then again Thor held his own against him.

Majestic or Wally

People underrate Zeus a lot.

Mephisto too.

Wally, because Morals Off Flash is omnipotent :P

@highaccuser Nothing suggests that the Necrosword protects against TP.

@highaccuser: Also why would Majestros lose against Adam? He'd decapitate him before he could do anything.

I guess. I mean, if people like Brainwave and MMH can make spectre do things he doesn't want to a superior telepath should succeed against an inferior foe.

He barely beat a team of avengers that wasn't that powerful.

Adam already beat him.

Does Majestros blitz often?

@New_World_Order: If anything I'd say Mephisto gets overrated.

His absolute best showing is taking Galactus on in his realm decades ago, and even then he's been defeated by vastly less powerful beings while still inside it.

His showings are on the whole rather unimpressive.

He just doesn't have enough impressive feats

Majestic or Gorr.

if i'm not mistaken.... mephisto outclasses most of them.. aside him,

despero

thanos

gorr

and majestic (if with creation blades)/ superboy prime

are the other contenders

@highaccuser He was obviously holding back and Adam only beat Mephisto with the Soul Gem which he can literally beat anyone here with.

Why was he holding back?

Adam happens to have the soul gem here. He can still get blitzed.

@dondave But Marvel has pushed and showed multiple times that he's on Odin's level of power. Dormammu has said him, Odin, and Zeus were equals. Odin has said it, Thor has said, it was even stated that him, Odin, and Vishnu were equals are something along those lines. To be honest Marvel really needs to put the Asgardians down for a bit, and focus on the Olympians.

He practically admitted Cul was way above him, and Odin owned Cul in the past.

@New_World_Order Exactly, all he has is hearsay. Odin also claimed that Thanos' power was as limitless as his own but we both know that Thanos isn't beating Odin.

Round 1

• Thanos
• Mephisto
• Adam Warlock
• Mr.Majestic
• Death Seed Sentry
• Gorr
• Mangog
• Superboy Prime

Round 2

• Mephisto
• Mr.Majestic
• Gorr
• Superboy Prime

Round 3

• Mephisto
• Gorr

Winner: Gorr

Mine is surely going to be different.

Are you suggesting Zeus was holding back when he fought the Avengers?

@highaccuser When did he admit that, I don't remember that.

@dondave Fair enough.

@dondave I didn't read that comic, but I would believe he was.

Around here:

@New_World_Order: How is Mangog beating Despero?

@New_World_Order: When Zeus fought Thor, they fought to a draw. I don't think he is underrated.

He most certainly wasn't. He'd gone into the Warrior Madness.

@highaccuser That's Mephisto, not Zeus.

@dondave I don't think telepathy would work on someone composed of billions of billions of souls. Too much minds to reach out too at once.

Thanos, the answer is Thanos.

@New_World_Order: Also how is Gorr beating Superboy Prime? He's immune to magic, the very thing Gorr is powered by.

@New_World_Order:

@highaccuser That's Mephisto, not Zeus.

I thought we were talking about mephisto. Zeus REALLY isn't Odin level by anything but speculation. Hulk held his own against him H2H and a relatively weak team of avengers gave him problems.

@dondave That's a weird fight, and Prime isn't immune, he's highly resistant.

He's immune. He tanked a blast from the near skyfather level 30th Century Mordru without budging.

@New_World_Order has the perfect list:

Round 1

Thanos

Mephisto

Adam Warlock

Mr.Majestic

Death Seed Sentry

Gorr

Mangog

Superboy Prime

Round 2

Mephisto

Mr.Majestic

Gorr

Superboy Prime

Round 3

Mephisto

Gorr

Winner: Gorr

@New_World_Order: Prime is immune.Hence why no sort of magic worked on him throughout his appearances

Gorr still isn't hurting him. Magic tickles him. What is Gorr going to do; tickle him to death?

@kingant27 Thanks

@reaverlation & @dondave The sword can still pierce him.

@New_World_Order: The sword isn't cutting him. It's a created from magic, it would be like an ordinary knife due to the fact that it's enchantments wont have an effect on Prime.

@jashro44: What's next? Skyfather bracket?

@jashro44: The High Evolutionary is being highly underestimated here...If he is at his peak...then he is pretty freaking powerful. So is Mangog...Problem is Mangog is still gonna get mind raped by Despero...Also I believe Ole High as tech that falls into power negation.

Also High E can devolve a lot of these characters into single cell organisms, IIRC.

Also his suit give him protection against physical, energy, psionic, or even magical attacks.

I'm going to try to dig up more proof for High E. I think he wins this thing , though or at the very least makes it to the semi finals.

I am not sure. It would be difficult to think of 16 different characters as powerful as Odin especially since I don't read many characters at that level. We'll see. If I do decide to make another bracket it will probably be mid tier.

@lukehero said:

@jashro44: The High Evolutionary is being highly underestimated here...If he is at his peak...then he is pretty freaking powerful. So is Mangog...Problem is Mangog is still gonna get mind raped by Despero...Also I believe Ole High as tech that falls into power negation.

Also High E can devolve a lot of these characters into single cell organisms, IIRC.

Also his suit give him protection against physical, energy, psionic, or even magical attacks.

I'm going to try to dig up more proof for High E. I think he wins this thing , though or at the very least makes it to the semi finals.

Yea I have heard varying opinions about high evolutionary. I was sort of hoping he was within this tier. From what i have heard he could be above this level but from what I have seen he might be a bit weaker. I'm not sure where he ranks. It would be nice to see some feats.

Round 1

Wally Vs thanos (wallydue to speed steal)

mephisto vs Fernus (this is a hard one imo i say fernusthough)

adam warlock vs Darkseid (adam)

Mr majestic vs Plutonian (Majestic)

High Evolutionary vs deathseed sentry ( sentry)

Gorr vs zues ( this is a tough one i say Gorr though)

mangog vs despero (despero)

Superboy prime vs H'el (prime)

Round 2

Wally vs Fernus ( Wallydue to Blitz )

Adam warlock vs Mr majestic ( majestic)

deathseed sentry vs Gorr ( Gorrclose though)

Despero vs Superboy prime (superboy primedue to blitz)

Round 3

Wally vs Majestic (wallydue to blitz)

Gorr vs Superboy prime (superboy prime due to immunity to magic)

Round 4

Wally vs Superboy prime (Wallydue to fear of flashes)

winner = wally

@flashgreatersigneveryone: Wally doesn't make it past Thanos, never mind winning this.

Wally=Omnipotent on Comic Vine

how does wally lose to Thanos when he is a statue both in the perception of wally and physically after speed stealing let alone how does thanks beat wally? Does he punch him? Like the wally haters are worse than the fanboys

Wallace or Majestros will probably win this.