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#1 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Setting: A deserted city

Conditions: Only deaths or KO's count for the win.

Please explain reasonings for the who the victors are.

#2 Posted by Kain Echnida (1750 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm. I think Thing and Colossus would win this one. Rhino's a bit of an idiot who can't think period, and that being said would most likely be taking out by Colossus. When he's gone, I would put my money on the fact that Ben and Colossus would double team to go take down Abomination. His strength doesn't increase like Hulk's so I think the two of them can take him on.

#3 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that Colossus or Thing could beat the Rhino after a hard fight but the wild card was Abomination. I think he is the most powerful of the 4 and i think that it would come down to if Thing or Colossus could survive against him long enough for their partner to overcome the Rhino.

#4 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

The Rhino has always been kinda of a push over. For a strong guy, Spiderman has been able to handle him. I think either the Thing or Colossus could take him. Also, I think either the Thing or Colossus could hold their own against the Abomination until the Rhino is defeated, then its game over. The Thing and Colossus for the win.

#5 Posted by xbuilder (106 posts) - - Show Bio

Colossus is stronger than the Thing and Rhino,  The Abomination stronger than him
and The Rhino is maybe a quater the strength of the Thing.

That said its like the Rhino never showed up for the fight. Also Been and Pitor have fought side by side before and that will be the Abomination's Waterloo.

#6 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@xbuilder said:
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Colossus is stronger than the Thing and Rhino,  The Abomination stronger than him
and The Rhino is maybe a quater the strength of the Thing.

That said its like the Rhino never showed up for the fight. Also Been and Pitor have fought side by side before and that will be the Abomination's Waterloo.

"
All of your post is correct except for the Rhino's strength level. He is about as strong as Thing which is around 90 tons. Colossus and Abomination should both be around 100 tons. Thing and Colossus should take this fight do to better hand to hand combat skills.
#7 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, way to resurrect an old thread xbuilder  :-)

To my knowledge both the Thing and Colossus are around 100 tonnes strength level.
Although the Abomination was listed at 100 tonnes as well, I have always considered him stronger that Thing or Colossus.
He is certainly more durable than either of them, although both the Thing and Colossus are better fighters.
Rhino is still rated at 80 tonnes.

#8 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
abom should be able to tear thing or colossus apart just as easily as the other team can beat rhino. i think Abom can wins this
#9 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2306 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Colossus and Thing take this. Abomination's strength is evened out by the fact that Rhino is the weakest player here. An Colossus will play a large role here. The X-Men are rediculously well trained, people may complain that Cyclops acts like this General gone mad, but they may be forgetting that he has been a feild commander for a long time, and the X-Men are a well trained militia. Thing has the heart to hang in their w/ Abomination, and Colossus has the skills he'll need. Either one is capable of putting Rhino down for the count, though i think Colossus would put him down faster...which is evened out by my beleif he'd last longer against Abomination b/c he's the best fighter here. Once Thing and Colossus double team Abomination, it's a done deal.

#10 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@castleking said:
" abom should be able to tear thing or colossus apart just as easily as the other team can beat rhino. i think Abom can wins this "
His strength level is not that much greater than Colossus and both Thing and Colossus are better fighters than him. I could see either one taking him after a hard fight.
#11 Posted by Logic Mark III (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

Colossus has shown a good deal of competence with martial arts, She Hulk used her martial arts to take out the physically superior Abomination once, i would think Colossus could do it too. The Rhino is probably the weak link, he has been nerfed to the point that Spiderman can just knock him out rather than ye olde special web fluid and trickery that he usually uses.

#12 Posted by batmanbeyond234 (1796 posts) - - Show Bio

thing used to work in the army so he knows martial arts. colossus is pretty good too. after beating rhino with one punch they use their martial arts to pound abomination.

#13 Posted by Caligula (12386 posts) - - Show Bio

Abomination, can solo. he deals with Banner on a regular basis, and is a threat to him at times, and Hulk curbstomps team 2 easily

#14 Posted by "Colossus" (4073 posts) - - Show Bio

colossus or thing would destroy rhino
#15 Posted by ihatemymom (89 posts) - - Show Bio

Well first of all Rhino is in the same strength level as the Thing, so it wont be a curbstomp over Rhino like some of you say it is, and Abomination is over class 100.  I don't think the Thing would be able to hold his own against Abomination for very long.  So if Rhino doesn't act like his usualy idiotic self and actually fights his best potential, he could hold on to Colossus, and then Abomination could take out the Thing and then its over.      
#16 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
"Abomination, can solo. he deals with Banner on a regular basis, and is a threat to him at times, and Hulk curbstomps team 2 easily "

exactly.  and plus another class 80 beast team 1 wins easily.
#17 Posted by "Colossus" (4073 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
" Abomination, can solo. he deals with Banner on a regular basis, and is a threat to him at times, and Hulk curbstomps team 2 easily "
colossus caved his face in after the xmen were through with him.
hulk beat all the xmen easily
Hulk>>>>>>>>>>>Abom
#18 Posted by Power NeXus (9850 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emerald_General_Jai said:
"I think Colossus and Thing take this. Abomination's strength is evened out by the fact that Rhino is the weakest player here. An Colossus will play a large role here. The X-Men are rediculously well trained, people may complain that Cyclops acts like this General gone mad, but they may be forgetting that he has been a feild commander for a long time, and the X-Men are a well trained militia. Thing has the heart to hang in their w/ Abomination, and Colossus has the skills he'll need. Either one is capable of putting Rhino down for the count, though i think Colossus would put him down faster...which is evened out by my beleif he'd last longer against Abomination b/c he's the best fighter here. Once Thing and Colossus double team Abomination, it's a done deal. "

Brilliant assessment =]
I can't find a single sentence in there I don't agree with completely.
#19 Edited by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio
@Power NeXus said:
"@Emerald_General_Jai said:
"I think Colossus and Thing take this. Abomination's strength is evened out by the fact that Rhino is the weakest player here. An Colossus will play a large role here. The X-Men are rediculously well trained, people may complain that Cyclops acts like this General gone mad, but they may be forgetting that he has been a feild commander for a long time, and the X-Men are a well trained militia. Thing has the heart to hang in their w/ Abomination, and Colossus has the skills he'll need. Either one is capable of putting Rhino down for the count, though i think Colossus would put him down faster...which is evened out by my beleif he'd last longer against Abomination b/c he's the best fighter here. Once Thing and Colossus double team Abomination, it's a done deal. "
Brilliant assessment =]I can't find a single sentence in there I don't agree with completely. "

But even if Thing and Colossus double team Abomination I don't think they would win.  
 
Here is Hulk effortlessly owning Colossus in a fight.  And Abomination was supposed to be stronger than Hulk. 
 
  
 
#20 Posted by chunjacktao (330 posts) - - Show Bio

Many of you underestimate Rhino here.  Here's Rhino giving depowered Juggernaut a good fight. 
 
   
#21 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@chunjacktao said:
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Many of you underestimate Rhino here.  Here's Rhino giving depowered Juggernaut a good fight. 
 
    "
Juggernaut destroyed Rhino in that fight, and that was the weakest Juggernaut has been in his career; he was at the same strength level when the Wrecking Crew beat him down.
#22 Posted by Power NeXus (9850 posts) - - Show Bio
@why so serious: 
The strong guys have all had inconsistant writing in the past. In World War Hulk, Colossus went toe-to-toe against the Hulk and held him for a few seconds. Before overpowering him, Hulk himself commented "There was a time when you would have made a decent fight for me". 
The scan you showed could be accurate or not, depending on when it happened. There was a time when Colossus was listed as a 75-80 tonner. Then he was an 80-90 tonner. Now he is considered a 100 tonner. 
 
 
@chunjacktao:
Along with the points that Ferro Vida made, don't forget that Rhino is a better and smarter fighter than just about anybody gives him credit for. Juggernaut, on the other hand, is pretty much a certifiable dumba*s.
#23 Posted by Ziro (1326 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll take team 2.
#24 Posted by Zaterra (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#25 Posted by Mr.Hulk_Smashin'! (2529 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 is about 260 tons 
Team 2 is about 210 tons Team 1 wins
#26 Posted by BatDance (2206 posts) - - Show Bio
Rhino jobs and loses it as per usual
 
Team 2 wins this easy
#27 Posted by Walker696 (980 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like skill will play the biggest part in this one. Don't look down on Thing and Colossus for being weaker than Abomination they both stood up to WWH knowing he was stronger then he's every been and didn't back down at all. Rhino is a jobber and if nothing else will probably get used to beat down Abomination. Thing and Colossus also have the added bonus of having worked together and being in constant battles with beings who are strong then them(Hulk, Juggernaut, Galactus, Silver Surfer, and so on). Between experience and teamwork they could take down team 2, it may not be easy but it will happen.
 
I need an answer for an unconfirmed rumor did Luke Cage every beat Abomination by himself, I saw it on an old post that was deleted and I never really found evidence of it.

#28 Posted by Power NeXus (9850 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr.Hulk_Smashin'! said:
"Team 1 is about 260 tons Team 2 is about 210 tons Team 1 wins "

It doesn't exactly work that way...
#29 Posted by Zaterra (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 is more powerful then Team 2 at the end of the day

#30 Posted by Power NeXus (9850 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zaterra said:
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Team 1 is more powerful then Team 2 at the end of the day

"

But team 2 has much better skill and training on their side.
#31 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
@Walker696 said:
" I need an answer for an unconfirmed rumor did Luke Cage every beat Abomination by himself, I saw it on an old post that was deleted and I never really found evidence of it. "
Not that I aware of and if he did it must have been PIS as Cages best punch might get Abominations attention.
#32 Posted by ihatemymom (89 posts) - - Show Bio

Abomination is just too strong.

#33 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio

He lost to She-Hulk

#34 Posted by DEADLEAF (94 posts) - - Show Bio

I give it to Things team.

#35 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

abomination is too strong.

#36 Posted by mattbryce2000 (1159 posts) - - Show Bio

in the end team 1 is the more powerful team but abomination is used to working solo. both thing and pitor are used to being on teams and working with others. rhino is a bit of a pushover and isn't really smart enough to create an effective stategy. discipline and experience will take it.
#37 Posted by jack128875 (233 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah i don't think Colossus or Thing would last very long against Abomination............ Rhino would tie with the Thing while Abom takes care of Colossus and then fights over.

#38 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2926 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#39 Posted by JackRock (64 posts) - - Show Bio

I  do not  underestimate  rhino  ... now  seems  stronger  and much less  stupid than  once
p.s  Colossus  can  lift  75  tons    

#40 Posted by Scarbearer (744 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Ben and Piotr can manage a win here.  It'll be ugly and it'll be messy, but I think they can do it.  If I were their 'coach.'  I'd have Piotr go in and take out Rhino as quickly as possible, and have Ben fight off Abom as long as he can before Piotr can help him double team him.
 
While I think Ben's the better fighter of the two, Colossus is stronger now, and since the fight with Rhino will be pretty straight forward, the stronger guy has a better chance to put him down quickly.  I'd have Ben go up against Abom because his superior skill might help him mitigate more incoming attacks, and while, he's not as durable as Colossus, I think he's got a better track record of being tougher than Piotr.  Once you /can/ hurt Colossus (and Abom certainly can) he tends to go down pretty quickly.  Ben on the other, while anyone over the 50 ton mark seems to be able to hurt him, has shown against the many times he's been outclassed in his career that he can keep fighting hurt if he has too.
 
If they each keep in mind their own personal strengths and weaknesses, I think Ben and Piotr got this.

#41 Posted by BarelyAverage (1104 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as I hate to say this but I think team 1 wins here. Abomination is just too powerful to be held off by thing or colossus alone. I know Rhino is the weakest one here but he can still physically go toe to toe with peter or ben. He may lose but he is around their strength and durability so can hold them off long enough for Abomination to take out either of them.

#42 Posted by BruteForce91 (13 posts) - - Show Bio

@alpha: But how exactly has Spiderman beat Rhino? Did he knock him out? No, he dodged his blows, stayed out of his reach and outsmarted him. I've never seen the Thing and Colosuss dodge someones blows and stayed out of their opponents reach. I'm not saying they cant beat Rhino though, I mean the Thing is stronger and has more durability than Rhino, and more skilled, and Colosuss is nearly as strong as Rhino and more skilled.

#43 Edited by kawhtehuaia (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Colossus, if I'm not mistaken is stronger than the thing, i has something to do with him being mature now as oppossed to being a teen or an early twenties guy when he started out...... He's been train by the best of the Xmen.... He is more durable or as durable as ben. Abom may be the strongest but it will take longer for abom to beat down the thing then it would take for Colossus to taje down Rhino.... So, team 2 FTW...

#44 Posted by thestarguy (368 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Abomination's strength does not increase over time, which is the main reason Ben usually loses his Hulk fights. He always does well initially, but eventually gradually tires and weakens. Also, Thing has a great track record against fighting against higher end bricks in general, and can definitely hold off Abomination for a while. Best strategy is for Colossus to handle Rhino first, then double-team as some have suggested. Strategy and fighting skills are just as important as raw strength, and Team 2 is definitely better when skill and teamwork come into play.

#45 Posted by God_Spawn (38293 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Rhino's glass jaw isn't going to help much against stronger, more durable, more intelligent, and better fighters than he is. And both Ben or Piotr can hold off Blonsky long enough for Rhino to get taken down and the team take them out. Rhino's only really shot against either one of team 2 is a full on gore and that will be easier said than done.

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#46 Edited by XiiX (9437 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Rhino's the weak link.

#47 Posted by TheAllOutBrawl (14 posts) - - Show Bio

Rhino could probably put up a good fight against Colossus, unless Colossus aims for Rhinos face...The Thing has tossed Rhino around as if he's a friggin basketball. Abomination could probably beat Colossus and the Thing on their own, but together it could be different. I say team 2 takes this.

Just for fun, here are some of these guys heavyweight feats of heavy blows:

Here's one of Abominations feats:

Couldn't find any pictures of Rhinos feats of heavy hitting, but I guess this one will do:

I dont know if this is the best example of Things heavy blows, but this'll do

Wow, does Colossus have any punching feats? This is like the only one on the internet:

#48 Posted by kidman560 (7578 posts) - - Show Bio

this is basically a thing and Colossus vs. Abomination. I give it to thing and Colossus

#49 Posted by LinkXV1 (490 posts) - - Show Bio

Replace Rhino with Mammoth for a better fight.

#50 Posted by Superskrull86 (1806 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.