8th Day Juggernaut Vs Pre-Crisis Superman

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Hey guys im still pretty new to this and trying to get to know the basics. Juggernaut at one of his strongest stages (8th Day) vs Pre-Crisis Superman, Cause I know Prime would beat 8th Day.

No time Prep

Random fight, begins in NY City

Have all their abilities at their disposal

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#2  Edited By ssj_god

@hirev_starman:

8th day juggernaut is invulnerable... but he can not do a thing to superman.. he can't even see superman if he wants to use his speed..

now.. i'm not certain if superman can throw him out of the planet or not.. but if morals off, then superman can just destroy the planet and bfr him.. if morals on, superman won't do that.

8th day jugg can only be defeated via bfr by supes.. if that ain't applicable, then it'd be a stalemate.. as jugg can do absolutely nothing to superman

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I believe Jugglywubz has this in the bag. Didn't 8DJ wreck Thor like, casually?

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Cain steals Clark's speed and oneshots him.

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@joygirl: That was probably his only real feat (although pretty impressive of him to rather tank his hits and nearly bear hug him into unconsciousness only to have been stopped by plot), apart from actually fighting the other exemplars, where he needed help. We know Juggernaut was more powerful its hard to say just how much more powerful, it was left pretty ambiguous.

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@joygirl said:

I believe Jugglywubz has this in the bag. Didn't 8DJ wreck Thor like, casually?

Jugglywubz?

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@dagmar_merrill: I never call him by his name. He's always Juggybug or Jugglywubz or Jigglynaut or whatever. @killemall: That's still pretty significant. Also we can assume 8DJ has Jugg's other shown abilities, like forcefield and slowing momentum. Once Kal gets close he won't be able to blitz anymore, he's just get smashed.

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@joygirl: Any reason as to why you do that?

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#11  Edited By Killemall

@joygirl: Forcefield has been rather consistent for Juggernaut and was shown before the said story arc just as well, and slowing mommentum was done once, against Thor, which was again an earlier story arc too.

Neither of those power were really focused on 8th day, and slowing momentum really is a one off feat from Juggernaut.

I understand defeating Thor is significant, would it really matter against Pre Crisis Superman, coz my understand was Pre Crisis version is a lot more powerful.

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@killemall: They still happened... just because they don't happen often doesn't mean they don't still count. Also, 8DJ not only beat Thor but beat him easily IIRC. That's good enough for me to say he can get the majority of wins on Supez.

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@joygirl: Fair enough i wasnt trying to really actively argue just inquiring. The forcefiled thing is fair enough but i suppose i am a bit skeptical to try and attribute a one off feat in a normal battle forum.

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@killemall: I like the Thor vs. Classic Juggs fight because it gave him an opportunity to show abilities he normally doesn't use. Against Hulk all he does is punch. Against X-Men all he does is show up. Thor gave him an actual fight where he could use those powers and show what he's really capable of and I liked that. I like the fact that he has control over momentum and honestly, considering some of the other random crap he's done (interdimensional teleportation, "swimming" against telekinesis), I'd say his momentum-sapping is among the most realistic and fun. It's also direly-needed so that Cain can fight top-tier heroes.

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Thank you guys for all your reasons and facts. Ill go with Superman too.

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8th Day Juggernaut may actually have a shot here

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#17  Edited By reikai

PC Supes was notoriously weak to magic. And I mean ridiculously weak to it. And 8D-Jug is like on magic steroidsx10. Supes could literally break his hand just hitting Cain here. It wouldn't even matter of Cain couldn't perceive or react to the blow, because Supes would kill himself just trying to hurt his opponent here.

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@reikai said:

PC Supes was notoriously weak to magic. And I mean ridiculously weak to it. And 8D-Jug is like on magic steroidsx10. Supes could literally break his hand just hitting Cain here. It wouldn't even matter of Cain couldn't perceive or react to the blow, because Supes would kill himself just trying to hurt his opponent here.

Took the words right out of my mouth lol. THIS

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If Bfr in to play then superman. If not then stalemate. Superman can just fly and watch Juggy all day even fall a sleep .

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Superman because...PIS

But Superman should take some serious damage if he gets hit by Juggernaut, or if he hits Juggernaut. But, Superman tanked the big bang and even 8th day Juggernaut can't hit hard enough to shatter a quadrant of the entire universe, which is giggle worthy to PC Supes. Supermans wins via a new power he made up, time travel, flying to Cyttoraks Crimson Cosmos and inhaling it along with Cyttorak, rubbing his hands together at the right frequency to disable Juggernauts new magical powers, clicking his thumbs in the right way to deatomize Juggernaut ect ect.

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@joygirl: PC Superman would also effortlessly beat Thor. Juggs beating him isn't much of a credit to this fight.

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Superman becomes immune to him and develops a new power that will break Jugg's momentum

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dang I want to say 8th day but PC Supers takes this

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When we say PC Supes are we talking about SA Superman?

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#29  Edited By Abyssdarkfire

If we are talking about silver age superman with morals off than superman stomps i don't see jugs hurting superman regardless worst case scenario for supes is stalemate.

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#32  Edited By johnfrank120

Supes

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Superman punches/throws him off the planet.

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Coin toss as per usual. 8th Day Juggs isn't really much of a amp and Sups can be any level.

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This a joke?

Juggernaut one shot

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