@dondave: There are a bunch of uneven fights around. The case with MMH is the same with Spider-Man, you can't put him way too high nor too low. This is basically 2 Supermen and 1 fiery powerhouse against 2 powerhouse bricks and 1 planet buster. To my eyes, this is more fair since MMH's still have speed and strength to handle themselves while the Hulk's from the very beginning didn't have any chance of pulling atleast a fight.
It's actually fairer now than before, who conveniently was kind uneven as you're implying.
@dum529001: Intangibility is the ability to pass through solid objects. Whether is partially phasing into another dimension making your atoms be able to stand in the same place as other atoms or simply vibrate yourself into a different quantum frequency giving the same results or by being a non-physical energy being. MMH can do this since the very beginning of his creation as well as Vision and Shadowcat.
In other words: Something that can't be perceived by the senses especially "touch".
@loseup: You know it's an uneven battle if you have to nerf one side
THIS!!! lol Wow. couldnt have said it better myself. Dead on exactly right. So please no more Hulk vs Superman threads that try to depower superman of flying, speed, etc, etc, just to TRY and help hulk. Matter of fact i think its in the battle forum rules.
@dum529001: Intangibility is the ability to pass through solid objects. Whether is partially phasing into another dimension making your atoms be able to stand in the same place as other atoms or simply vibrate yourself into a different quantum frequency giving the same results or by being a non-physical energy being. MMH can do this since the very beginning of his creation as well as Vision and Shadowcat.
In other words: Something that can't be perceived by the senses especially "touch".
if you don't gently go around other atoms then you are merely smahing through them.
Changing your density is a good idea. IT allows you to go around other atoms instead of bumping into them. Simply vibrating doesn't make you intangible. Energy passes almost harmlessly through objects easily when its small amounts, and with more than one mass. energy is particle-wave. It can be one object or one object that bumps into another object that transfers its energy. Unless you have another body or multiple bodies at low densities, you won't pass through someone by vibrating.
Intangabilty is not about being unperceivable by the senses. There is no such thing as being totally invisible anyway. As long as person's senses are great enough, they can sense you.
Hulk has been able to touch things with low densities and hurt them.
Density-shifting makes it easier to pass through things but when met with a certain amount of inertia from another object, It impossible to pass through without doing harm.
It becomes a battle between the density-shifter and resistance force of the object he's trying to pass through. The density-shifter must overcome the object's resistance force with a force of their own or be crushed . Whoever has the greater force wins and whoever has the lesser force is crushed.
Density shifting has its limits. Nothing is competely untouchable.
Can things be made Harder to touch? Yes! Impossible to touch? Certainly not!
Do I need to mention the times Hulks blows away air particles by clapping his hands really fast?
Examples:
in Avengers #165-66 and incredible Hulk #300:
Hulk blows away a density shifting vampire in Fear itself: Hulk vs Dracula #2
If someone really thinks Hulk is going to beat MM by "blowing on him" they have some issues.
This thread is fail. Hulk can't touch MM unless you nerf him into the ground. Why bother making the thread if you have to handicap someone so much?
Thats why I don't like these kinds of threads. Its almost some satisfaction for people who can't stand seeing their favorite hero lose, so they nerf the other combatant to win.
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