in the team are
Cap, Batman, Black Panther, Daredevil, Elektra, Shang-Chi, and Lady Shiva
can they alone (with their standard equip) beat the brave Spartans ??
300 vs Team of martial artists
Team. Batman surely has something in his utility belt to disrupt their phalanx. Then it'd be over.
This is over kill for the martial artists in their favor anyone can solo they can dodge spears and The Sparatans have no feats to put them on level of hordes these guys have already demolished like The Hand and League of Assassins
no chance these highly trained killers with the phalanx would be far too much to pass though,the team have got to get in close to win,thats when its bye bye time,100-150 spartans would be killed i think,no matter how skilled you are,moving up to a spartan army with no armour or cover your gonna die.simple.
" Yes easily "@Son_of_Magnus said:
" This is over kill for the martial artists in their favor anyone can solo they can dodge spears and The Sparatans have no feats to put them on level of hordes these guys have already demolished like The Hand and League of Assassins "
Any particular reason you're quoting yourself without actually adding anything?
The Spartans are presented as the elite of the elite. They held up a 1 million strong army for a day, which also contained giant sized rhinos, elephants, and weird mutant ogre things, in addition to the normal infantry, cavalry, and archers. Xerxes' army even had access to some primitive grenades. The Spartans also dealt handily with Xerxes' Immortals, who were themselves elite combatants (the very best that Persia had to offer). Yes the Spartans took some casualties against the Immortals, but even there they were greatly outnumbered, and still gave far better than they got.
That alone wouldn't be enough for me to say that a Spartan is better than anyone listed, but they also outnumber the martial artists nearly 43 to 1. 43 to 1 odds against truly elite, highly disciplined warriors is a lot for anyone to deal with, even guys like Batman, Cap, etc. If they were in a jungle or something and could start employing guerrilla tactics, then they would most likely win (eventually), but if they're at Thermopylae or an open plain, I don't think they'd have much chance. The Spartans could just bury them under a mass of bodies if they had to.
300 don't really have much martial arts compared to the Martial Artists. The MA also have the speed and reaction time advantage. Plus am sure at least have of the MA can catch an incoming spear. The MA are trained in Swords etc. I don't see them NOT getting any of the 300 soldier's weaponry and using it against them.
Team 2. They're all pretty sick and batman has explosives. All the Spartans have are swords, sheilds, and spears.
" As Superior are the Martial Teams are in well....Martial Arts, The sheer number of the Spartans would just overpower and outnumber them. "as much as i hate to admit it.. i might agree
The martial artist easily, Daredevil and Batman alone already took on 100 yakuza and ninjas, who not only have far superior weaponry then the 300 but are far more skilled also, especially the ninjas.
Reading these, I'm assuming we're talking about the comic book version of 300... to which I have limited knowledge, which is from the movie and sparce IRL history. That said, the location matters heavily. The Spartans in the movie were able to hold their own for so long because they couldn't get flanked, and they were pretty much bottlenecking. The Spartans also had backup from the Arcadians. 299 Spartans eventually lost in the movie, with 1 making it back to call for aid.
I don't know the supposed materials the Spartans' equipment was made of, but considering Cap's shield and BP's vibranium suit, those two would definitely have the advantage. Batman using a flashbang has been mentioned. Caltrops are on Batman's bio on here, which would definitely impede the (human) Spartans.
That said, the numbers are still an issue, the Spartans won't have a traitor to tip off an opening, and they know unit-based tactics and have actual teamwork with their fellow compatriots.
I would still give it to the "martial artists" side for having superior technology, and possibly having had the chance to study from their supposed opponents, as well as not having the fight at a strategic location. If it were still at the cliffs, then anyone with projectiles could be carried atop the cliffs via grappling hook or climbing abilities and launch projectiles and leaving little opportunities from counterattacks.
7 Martial Artist with Standard Equipment can take down 300 highly trained Elite men, that were fighting and learning to art of killing when they were young, and have learned to fight as a team?
Seriously no.
Training now > Training at 480 BC
Team takes this with Standard Equipment e.g. Caps Shield, Bruce's Gadgets, T'Challa's Suit etc
MA easily
I just don't understand how anyone can possibly believe real life humans stand a chance vs comic book characters that outclass real life humans in everything the MA would literally one shot the spartans.
Team takes this, they are all fast enough to catch or avoid any projectile thrown at them, They can also pick up shields from fallen Spartans and form there own phalanx led by Cap who would lead the fight to the narrow path where numbers count for nothing.
@Pwok21 said:
Training now > Training at 480 BC
Team takes this with Standard Equipment e.g. Caps Shield, Bruce's Gadgets, T'Challa's Suit etc
Not necessarily as the Spartan men where raised up from birth to be killers. They had a harsher training regiment than martial artist usually have today. Although i agree with Standard Equipment the martial artist can do this. But if they didn't it would be a whole other story.
@The Island said:
Dude common. If this is unarmed then this is overkill for 300 with a few deaths but they win.
Yes.. At the Very least the op should have put Iron Fist with some Chi.. At least then they will have Something.. Team loses to spartans.
They might can hop around and avoid getting hit for a while but 300 is too many.
It depends where the fight takes place. If it's in a jungle/city/place with lots of obstacles then I see the team pulling a win out of the bag without too much difficulty. If it's an open field then it's a victory for Sparta.
@toby5678910 said:
Team takes this, they are all fast enough to catch or avoid any projectile thrown at them, They can also pick up shields from fallen Spartans and form there own phalanx led by Cap who would lead the fight to the narrow path where numbers count for nothing.
Where was it stated that there was a narrow path for them to use? And I agree that they are fast enough to dodge/catch any of the projectiles, but multiple projectiles being thrown repeatedly? They are going to get tagged eventually.
Assuming this fight takes place at Thermopylae where the Spartans are backed into a valley in tight Phalanx formation, I'm not sure maneuverability is even a factor here. In this sort of situation the Spartans are literally a wall of spears. That being said, the Spartans are still only packing bronze weapons that bend and break as opposed to the advanced metals the martial artists are packing. For fighting skill, the Spartans are one of the most overrated warriors I know of. Their real strength was their formation, which is large and difficult to maneuver. Either way I think the heroes should win with Bats tech and Cap and Black Panthers vibranium. The likes of Daredevil, Elektra and the other unarmored martial artists will probably die from the javelin barrages (they can't catch 300+ javelins no matter how skilled), but the rest of the team should be able to clench victory.
@lagoon_boy said:
As Superior are the Martial Teams are in well....Martial Arts, The sheer number of the Spartans would just overpower and outnumber them.
Are the Spartans here real life or movie versions?
But it doesnt matter, the team wins. They have superhuman speed, strength, and reaction times, plus much better training. Batman's standard gear also includes batarangs, grenades, gas, etc.
@karetaker said:
team wins. i made a xase for batman and nightwing in the thread with them vs 300 spartans. this is a better team.
Batman and Nightwing alone could win if they came in packing enough equipment... exploding batarangs, smoke grenades, flashbangs, etc.
@WillPayton said:
@karetaker said:
team wins. i made a xase for batman and nightwing in the thread with them vs 300 spartans. this is a better team.
Batman and Nightwing alone could win if they came in packing enough equipment... exploding batarangs, smoke grenades, flashbangs, etc.
same thing i said.
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