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#1 Edited by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1

THE MIGHTY THOR #11

Rules

-They aren't familiar each other

-Doomsady is pre-Flashpoint and current version of Thor (No odinforce)

-Thor has acess to Mjolnir and can't teleport Doomsday

-No prep time to both

-No aditional help

-Morals off,but not Bloodlust

-Wins by K.O or incapacitation

Round 2

Rules

-They are familiar each other

-Doomsady is pre-Flashpoint

-Current version of Thor

-Thor doesn't have access to his weapons (NoMjolnir,No Runes,No Destroyer Armor and no other kinds of weapons)

-No Aditional help

- Thor has 3 hours to prep time

-Morals off,Bloodlust

-Wins by Death

Location:Themyscira

#2 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

No one has opinion??

#3 Posted by deadpool6_6_6 (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Doomsday both rounds.

#4 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor Both rounds

#5 Posted by Park (2976 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor Round 1.

Assuming Familiar with Each Other means that Thor killed Doomsday before Doomsday would win round 2.

#6 Posted by Saren (25583 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor both rounds. If morals are off he'll teleport Doomsday away, and in round 2 he can either do that again or spam whatever over the top attacks he has in his arsenal. I don't think familiarity makes any difference, Thor fights a lot of people that he's familiar with (Hulk most notably) but doesn't change his plan of attack accordingly. The morals off/bloodlust combo would make a bigger difference.

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#7 Edited by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Park: yes

@CitizenBane: Thor doesn't have any weapons in round 2 and can't teleport him

@Bo88gdan: withou hammer in roun d 2,remember

#8 Posted by 0n1zuka (3715 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thor with no morals wins round 1, but round two is a different story. If the Odinson can't use Mjolnir for the second round, then he dies a quick death.

#9 Posted by Saren (25583 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't see the no weapons clause for Round 2. Doomsday might win that one then.

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#10 Posted by deadpool6_6_6 (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought on the superman vs thor thread. everybody established that thor isnt as classic as superman. since doomsdays killed supes than why would thor stand a chance when everyone thinks superman could beat thor?

#11 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: no problem

#12 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor Round 1 due to BFR.

Doomsday Round 2 due to the fact it's a pure slugfest and he's handled several DC heavy hitters at once. Thor has no chance of winning without Mjolnir here.

#13 Posted by Almighty_Darkseid (1724 posts) - - Show Bio

doomsday no doubt

#14 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

Thor Both rounds

Correct unless this is H/P Doomsday so Thor loses round 2.

#15 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@Bo88gdan said:

Thor Both rounds

Correct unless this is H/P Doomsday so Thor loses round 2.

Thor loses Round 2 anyway. With Mjonir Thor could unleash powerful attacks e.g the God Blast or wind of a thousand worlds or BFR Doomsday away. Without his hammer it's a pure slugfest and Doomsday will take that no problem. All Thor can do at this point is hit him and even if Thor causes damage, DD will heal quickly and adapt to resist Thor's blows.

#16 Posted by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins Round 1 via BFR (his only chance.) Round 2, Doomsday stomps.

#17 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger: H/P doomsday?? what is this??

#18 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: He's talking about the version of Doomsday from the Hunter Prey comic. That version of Doomsday's a beast apparently.

#19 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: @Lvenger: Thank's for the Information. I do not remember more of that version of it, I agree with you, do not think it makes any difference to use another version of Doomsady. otherwise I would have put Bizaaro Doomsday,this almost unstoppable,just blue kryptonite can stop him.

@Stronger: This don't make any difference.

#20 Posted by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

Just an FYI, Thor CAN use his powers without the hammer. It's just not as focused and harder to control.

#21 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sBaby:Thor without hammer has SOME POWERS,HE CAN'T USE ALL POWERS,like Super strength,speed,durability,stamina,control weather,control lightinings and without Mjolnir he can't fly

#22 Posted by Killemall (18501 posts) - - Show Bio

With no BFR Thor loses both round. Doomsday FTW!

#23 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor loses without bfr. The guy fights like a retarded overweight monkey that has just held its first hammer.

#24 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

before someone says that Thor only need to use your hammer and absorb solar energy from Doomsday, this is not possible since he does not need the sun to gain or maintain his powers, his powers are natural and he doesn't have weakness against kryptonite or magic

#25 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@Stronger said:

@Bo88gdan said:

Thor Both rounds

Correct unless this is H/P Doomsday so Thor loses round 2.

Thor loses Round 2 anyway. With Mjonir Thor could unleash powerful attacks e.g the God Blast or wind of a thousand worlds or BFR Doomsday away. Without his hammer it's a pure slugfest and Doomsday will take that no problem. All Thor can do at this point is hit him and even if Thor causes damage, DD will heal quickly and adapt to resist Thor's blows.

Hasnt Superman beaten DS with bare hands??

@matchesmalone21: H/P Doomsday wrecked Darkseid.This is the only info I have on him.

#26 Edited by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

With no BFR Thor loses both round. Doomsday FTW!

#27 Edited by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger: Yes,two times alone. Other times,he get help of his teammates and remember he killed Superman and ressurect

Other times he get help of justice league,because each death and resurrection, Doomsday adapts to the enemy's powers and other threats becoming more stronger. In the World of Krypton was necessary more than 200 kryptonians to stop him

#28 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

@Stronger: Yes,two times alone. Other times,he get help of his teammates and remember he killed Superman and ressurect

Other times he get help of justice league,because each death and resurrection, Doomsday adapts to the enemy's powers and other threats becoming more stronger. In the World of Krypton was necessary more than 200 kryptonians to stop him

If Superman can beat Doomsday why not Thor.They have the same strenght level.

#29 Edited by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger: Because each death and ressurcetion Domsaday become more strong and adapt to everything he faced before. Doomsday strength is FAR BEYOND than Superman and any Dc's strongest,since the 2000,Superman never able to do it alone again.

Superman beat twice was never able to do it alone again. other times,he get help of the Justice League or other teams to stop him

and again understand my point,to stop Doomsaday was necessary 200 hundred Kryptonians with same superman's level strength.,make account after this just how strong he became?

#30 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

@matchesmalone21 said:

@Stronger: Yes,two times alone. Other times,he get help of his teammates and remember he killed Superman and ressurect

Other times he get help of justice league,because each death and resurrection, Doomsday adapts to the enemy's powers and other threats becoming more stronger. In the World of Krypton was necessary more than 200 kryptonians to stop him

If Superman can beat Doomsday why not Thor.They have the same strenght level.

That's very poor logic. Admittedly Superman and Thor are nearly the same in terms of strength but Doomsday possesses adaptive physiology and an incredibly fast healing factor which means he can heal incredibly quickly from attacks and if something does manage to kill him, he can't be killed by it again. Without Mjolnir to BFR DD, Thor takes the beating of his life.

#31 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Thor wins via bfr.

Round 2: Doomsday wins because Thor loses the main advantage(versatality of powers) without his hammer.

#32 Posted by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: True. Didn't mean to imply he could use ALL his abilities sans Mjolnir. As for Doosmday, IIRC, the DD that Superman defeated in Superman #175 wasn't the "real" Doomsday. I think Lex cloned him after OWAW and combined kryptonian DNA with his remains. H/P Doomsday was a BEAST! He defeated the entire Big 7 like it was nothing, beating Orion and MM in 60 seconds. He was physically unstoppable and could only be defeated via BFR.

#33 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@Stronger said:

@matchesmalone21 said:

@Stronger: Yes,two times alone. Other times,he get help of his teammates and remember he killed Superman and ressurect

Other times he get help of justice league,because each death and resurrection, Doomsday adapts to the enemy's powers and other threats becoming more stronger. In the World of Krypton was necessary more than 200 kryptonians to stop him

If Superman can beat Doomsday why not Thor.They have the same strenght level.

That's very poor logic. Admittedly Superman and Thor are nearly the same in terms of strength but Doomsday possesses adaptive physiology and an incredibly fast healing factor which means he can heal incredibly quickly from attacks and if something does manage to kill him, he can't be killed by it again. Without Mjolnir to BFR DD, Thor takes the beating of his life.

I think you are most correct.I change my vote.

Round 1; Thor

Round 2:Doomsday.

#34 Posted by Nefarious (19562 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins both rounds.

#35 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious: Round 2 withou hammer. You read this,don't?

#36 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

@Nefarious: Round 2 withou hammer. You read this,don't?

With prep(devil's advocate), he could get destroyer armor and rune stones.

#37 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: But Thor's not the sharpest tool in the box. Would he recognise DD as a threat that warrented the Destroyer armour?

#38 Posted by fangirl101 (551 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor loses, any and all fights against DD. 

#39 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: What part of no weapons,you don't understand?? No weapons,no weapons no weapons

#40 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Technically the Destroyer is a suit of armour. But it has offensive capabilities as well so I guess it can be classed as a weapon.

#41 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Exactly. so is not valid

#42 Posted by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Why give Thor prep if he can't actually use any additional gear? What's the point?

#43 Posted by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@majestic99: But Thor's not the sharpest tool in the box. Would he recognise DD as a threat that warrented the Destroyer armour?

Yes.

@matchesmalone21 said:

@majestic99: What part of no weapons,you don't understand?? No weapons,no weapons no weapons

He said Thor doesn't have mjolnir. And giving someone prep implies they can get weapons(just not other beings/people).

#44 Posted by BigCimmerian (8019 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins round 1
Doomsday wins round 2 barely

#45 Posted by BigCimmerian (8019 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

@80sBaby:Thor without hammer has SOME POWERS,HE CAN'T USE ALL POWERS,like Super strength,speed,durability,stamina,control weather,control lightinings and without Mjolnir he can't fly

He can levitate in the same way as Storm, by controling winds, but he cannot fly in outer space or faster than light without Mjolnir

#46 Posted by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: Barely? Mjolnir is the only advantage Thor has. Without it DD takes the win easily. Basically Thor's fighting a Hulk that's stronger, more durable, has a faster healing factor as well as adaptive physiology. Without Mjolnir, Doomsday beats Thor soundly.

#47 Posted by BigCimmerian (8019 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@BigCimmerian: Barely? Mjolnir is the only advantage Thor has. Without it DD takes the win easily. Basically Thor's fighting a Hulk that's stronger, more durable, has a faster healing factor as well as adaptive physiology. Without Mjolnir, Doomsday beats Thor soundly.

Barely yes, Doomsday cannot beat Superman easily and this is bloodlusted Thor, and in that state Thor killed Hulk and Thing at the same time with one hand

#48 Edited by Lvenger (19129 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: Do you mean in these instances?

1. Fear Itself was full of PIS. That fight was ridiculous and should not be used as an accurate showing of how Thor does against powered up versions of the Hulk and the Thing

2. In the second image Thor has the Odinforce. Current Thor is fighting here and he doesn't have the Odinforce. I'd imagine he could beat DD if he had the Odinforce but without it, DD takes the win here. And not barely. By a large margin.

#49 Edited by BigCimmerian (8019 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@BigCimmerian: Do you mean in these instances?

1. Fear Itself was full of PIS. That fight was ridiculous and should not be used as an accurate showing of how Thor does against powered up versions of the Hulk and the Thing

2. In the second image Thor has the Odinforce. Current Thor is fighting here and he doesn't have the Odinforce. I'd imagine he could beat DD if he had the Odinforce but without it, DD takes the win here. And not barely. By a large margin.

No I meant about this

Some people would say this is non canon because it happened in alternate reality, but it was mainstream Marvel 616 universe before Thor decided to go back in time to prevent things he had done. In this fight Thor doesn't have Mjolnir and Odin Force is taken away from him by Doctor Strange, but he is very bloodlusted.

EDIT: sorry I couldn't load your second image, no he doesn't have odin force there, Doctor Strange removed it

#50 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor both rounds. Eventually he would run out of ways to kill doomsday but he could do it twice easily. Thor has some crazy abilities he rarely uses.