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#1 Edited by KraytRawk (628 posts) - - Show Bio

Recently browsing this site, i came across a thread about the new justice league movie, and possible (or desirable) candidates for the iconic and beloved heroes. Threads like this interest me greatly, due to the fact that i love hearing peoples opinions, this caused me to lurk for a while. More than a few people posted their list - some great, some . . . horrible- but the one name that kept popping up was Ryan Gosling.(mostly for Batman.) And i couldn't help but think, Oh god why!? Do people really think this is a good choice?

First of all, yeah sure, Ryan Gosling is as pretty boy like Bruce Wayne, but that's not enough in my opinion. And yes, we've seen Ryan's "Darkseid" (HA!) in Drive, but we've already gotten these thing from bale, and it would be absolute torture (for me at least) to sit through 2 1/2 hours of Gosling trying to talk tough from underneath that cowl that is oh too good for him. I think that its time for a new type of Cinematic Batman, less "sexy" and more "intimidating," and i just don't think that Ryan fits the mold.

So, come on cv/batman, tell me what you think. What kind of Batman are you looking for? Do you agree with me, or do you think I'm being an idiot. If so, why?

#2 Posted by MuyJingo (1548 posts) - - Show Bio

He is pretty and blonde....despite his acting chops, I don't think he is a good fit for a revamped bruce wayne. Besides, I want a slightly older Batman....late 30's, early 40's.

#3 Posted by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

He would make for a better Dick Grayson.

#4 Posted by lifeofvibe (3419 posts) - - Show Bio

@kraytrawk: who know why why WHY they would even concider ryan gosling ITS HORRIBLE IDEA

#5 Edited by joshmightbe (24599 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see him as maybe Nightwing or Roy Harper but not Batman

#6 Edited by cameron83 (6634 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see him as maybe Nightwing or Roy Harper but not Batman

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#7 Posted by Kiltro95 (295 posts) - - Show Bio

I see him more as a Flash, or Guy Gardner, maybe even Green Arrow but not Batman.

#8 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32651 posts) - - Show Bio

All you pepole are on drugs, Gosling should play Aquaman,

#9 Posted by __Hesperus__ (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryan Gosling is a terrific actor. Key word being actor. Just because he hasn't played a similar character before doesn't mean he isn't capable. I have full faith in his ability to play Batman if he was cast in the role. I understand the concern that, at first glance, he appears to be more of a Nightwing, because he's fairly 'skinny', but as we have seen in multiple superhero movies, the main actor is capable of bulking up for the role.

Personally I want an actor who is capable of accurately portraying the tortured, fairly tragic character that is Batman and I feel Gosling is capable of that.

#10 Edited by KraytRawk (628 posts) - - Show Bio

@muyjingo: YES! i want a seasoned Batman for the reboot. An older, grizzly, unshaven, tactical mastermind.

#11 Posted by Joygirl (18466 posts) - - Show Bio

I want people to stop saying Ryan Gosling is a good actor. He's not. Pretty =/= Talented. He might -- MIGHT -- be able pull off a character like Roy Harper (if it was a lower-angst Roy like in RHatO). But Batman, Nightwing? No. Not a f***ing chance. Joy has spoken.

#12 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (9503 posts) - - Show Bio

He would be a better Aquaman that Batman actually.

#13 Posted by ShadowSwordmaster (12033 posts) - - Show Bio

What wait ?

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#14 Edited by Knightfall225 (1720 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has to be a playboy so he has to be attrqctive...... but he also needs to be intemidating so y nit just use joe manganello he is tall and big af pzlus ladies seem to like him he is around 36 years old as well but by making.batman less attractive it wuld destroy of how ppl view bruce wayne playboy billionare from gotham

#15 Posted by joshmightbe (24599 posts) - - Show Bio

@__hesperus__: I'd honestly prefer a slightly older Batman but that's more because I'd like to see Robin in the next movie and it would look kind of weird if Batman wasn't much older than Robin who I assume if he makes it into a new movie would probably be around 16 at the youngest.

#17 Posted by KraytRawk (628 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

I want people to stop saying Ryan Gosling is a good actor. He's not. Pretty =/= Talented. He might -- MIGHT -- be able pull off a character like Roy Harper (if it was a lower-angst Roy like in RHatO). But Batman, Nightwing? No. Not a f***ing chance. Joy has spoken.

See that's the thing, i DO think he is a decent actor. Just, IMHO, is a strange choice for any of these. I guess its just his popularity, and recent success that has put him up there on peoples list.

#18 Posted by SoA (4683 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: thank you . :)

if he gets the role im waiting for the reboot .

#19 Posted by __Hesperus__ (110 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Obviously if we were casting for an older Batman I would have a different choice. There are tons of people who could play an old, grizzled Batman VERY well, but I think the reality is that isn't what we're going to get. We're going to get a guy who is just starting out as Batman after being inspired by the Man of Steel. With that in mind, I think Gosling is the best choice out of the age range we're looking for. Maaaaybe Bradley Cooper, but I've seen more range from Gosling.

#20 Posted by __Hesperus__ (110 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: After only seeing him in a couple of romcoms, I thought the same. Then a friend made me watch 'Lars and the Real Girl' and wow. That is the movie I will forever point to as reason for my faith in his acting ability. Don't let the fact that he is typecast as the romantic pretty boy fool you, the man has talent.

#21 Posted by Extremis (3334 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryan Gosling is too established to be a superhero.

These movies are proven to work when they get good actors who haven't had too much exposure. Maybe even a no name. I mean think about it. And you could say this applies for Bale and RDJ as Bale was mostly having indie fame until Batman Begins and Downey was gone for a long while until making his comeback as Iron Man.

#22 Posted by __Hesperus__ (110 posts) - - Show Bio

@extremis: I guess I could agree with that, though I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The problem is, when you do this sort of 'I think this guy should play this superhero' thing you are limited to the actors that are already famous, because you and everyone else actually know who they are. You can only pick from the actors you've seen, so naturally everyone picks the really famous ones they've seen in lots of different movies.

Still, whether or not he would be cast/it would be good for the movie etc. I still feel he is capable of playing the role.

#23 Posted by noj (1069 posts) - - Show Bio

@muyjingo: The LAST thing we need is an older Batman. We need a Batman who can stand the test of time. A Batman who we can follow through more than one or two movies before it looking like hes physically incapable of playing him. If we get a 40 year old Batman in the first movie by the time there's a second and a Justice League series he could be in his 50s. I want a Batman who we can see develop. Plus having a Batman so much older than Superman seems wrong. The perfect age for the new Batman would be late 20's to early 30s

#24 Posted by The_Spy (112 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl:

I think Jon Hamm is a better fit for Batman

#25 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd prefer Fassbender for Bats.. And Gosling? Booster Gold perhaps?

#26 Edited by MuyJingo (1548 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Obviously if we were casting for an older Batman I would have a different choice. There are tons of people who could play an old, grizzled Batman VERY well, but I think the reality is that isn't what we're going to get. We're going to get a guy who is just starting out as Batman after being inspired by the Man of Steel.

Ugh, I really hope not. I hope they go the route that Batman has been operating for a while already but is considered a myth.

@joygirl: After only seeing him in a couple of romcoms, I thought the same. Then a friend made me watch 'Lars and the Real Girl' and wow. That is the movie I will forever point to as reason for my faith in his acting ability. Don't let the fact that he is typecast as the romantic pretty boy fool you, the man has talent.

Lars and the real girl, and Drive are both amazing. I think the guy is talented, but is isn't acting ability alone that defines how well an actor fit a role. For other reasons I can't necessarily articulate, I don't think Gosling is right for the role. Would he do a good job? Sure, but I think there are better choices.

@extremis: I guess I could agree with that, though I don't think it's quite as simple as that. The problem is, when you do this sort of 'I think this guy should play this superhero' thing you are limited to the actors that are already famous, because you and everyone else actually know who they are. .

Well yeah, but no need to choose from A, or even B list celebrities. There are many talented actors in less popular tv shows and movies that havent gotten exposure. When I made my fancast, I went out of my way to choose actors that were not known, or would be an unexpected choice. I think it's important when doing a new take on a character.

@noj said:

@muyjingo: The LAST thing we need is an older Batman. We need a Batman who can stand the test of time. A Batman who we can follow through more than one or two movies before it looking like hes physically incapable of playing him. If we get a 40 year old Batman in the first movie by the time there's a second and a Justice League series he could be in his 50s. I want a Batman who we can see develop. Plus having a Batman so much older than Superman seems wrong. The perfect age for the new Batman would be late 20's to early 30s

Who said 40? I'd be fine with an early/mid thirties batman. I want a Batman in his prime, I don't want a Batman who is just starting out, making mistakes, still learning. 35 seems like a good age, as he would have been Batman for 10 years already. Keep in mind, movie magic can make any aging of the actor less apparent.

#27 Posted by __Hesperus__ (110 posts) - - Show Bio

@muyjingo: In terms of age, you realise Gosling is over 30 right?

Anyway, I think it basically comes down to how you imagine the character. The way I read and understand the character of Batman is different to your interpretation, and that's fine. I can see Gosling playing the character as I imagine him, and you cannot, clearly because we each believe a different aspect of the character to be the most important characteristic. What's great about comics is that we get to see the same character written by many different people, each of whom will focus on something different, and each of us see something different in the story. The problem with movies is you are limited to one vision of the character, that of the director/actor.

Basically, to each their own, you've reasoned your case better than me and I see no reason to argue for the sake of it, haha (also, I'm tired, so I bid thee farewell)

#28 Edited by MyNameWasDeleted (679 posts) - - Show Bio

Older? I would say Gerard Butler, or Clive Owen or even David Boreanaz (Booth from BONES, Angel the Vampire) maybe?

no, maybe not David... but whatever

#29 Edited by joshmightbe (24599 posts) - - Show Bio

@__hesperus__: I don't want Superman to be what inspires Batman, that would actually be kind of disrespectful to their established dynamic, Batman should be a partner not a fan.

#30 Posted by The_Tree (7202 posts) - - Show Bio

Gosling's a phenomenal actor, but definitely not the right fit for Batman.

#31 Posted by MyNameWasDeleted (679 posts) - - Show Bio

@__hesperus__: I don't want Superman to be what inspires Batman, that would actually be kind of disrespectful to their established dynamic, Batman should be a partner not a fan.

i think you may have read more into that remark than was written (poorly worded as it was)

@joshmightbe: Obviously if we were casting for an older Batman I would have a different choice. There are tons of people who could play an old, grizzled Batman VERY well, but I think the reality is that isn't what we're going to get. We're going to get a guy who is just starting out as Batman after being inspired by the Man of Steel. With that in mind, I think Gosling is the best choice out of the age range we're looking for. Maaaaybe Bradley Cooper, but I've seen more range from Gosling.

though I may be wrong..

I think _hesperus_ was trying to call to point the rebooting aspect of a new Batman, not any fanboy aspect (like Batman went in to watch Man of Steel and got inspired? not likely)

#32 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

He's a pretty good actor but I can't see him as Batman.

#33 Edited by __Hesperus__ (110 posts) - - Show Bio

@mynamewasdeleted: Yeah, you got it right, lol

@joshmightbe: I agree, but as I said, I'm just being realistic. Haven't read any if the New 52, but I had heard that Superman was the first superhero and inspired everyone else. DC are probably gonna want the movies to follow that, no?

Could be mistaken about that, but yeah, Gosling is basically my first choice because of the direction I think the next Batman film will probably go, not the direction I WANT it to go :P

#34 Posted by THEOCITYLEGEND (1158 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he could make a great Batman.

#35 Posted by PopRock123 (101 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he could be a good Batman. Ryan is a pretty talented actor judging from the movies I have seen him in.

#36 Edited by DeathSamurai (537 posts) - - Show Bio

He should be Barry Allen duh.

#37 Edited by RustyRoy (10853 posts) - - Show Bio

@__hesperus__: I don't want Superman to be what inspires Batman, that would actually be kind of disrespectful to their established dynamic, Batman should be a partner not a fan.

Agreed, if they do that I'll kill Goyer.

On topic, I think Gosling can pull off both Bruce Wayne and Batman but there are better actors for Batman than him. Although I definitely wouldn't mind seeing him as Bats.

#38 Posted by Farkam (4780 posts) - - Show Bio

Gosling shouldn't be playing any superheroes.

#39 Posted by RustyRoy (10853 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam said:

Gosling shouldn't be playing any superheroes.

Why?

#40 Posted by Farkam (4780 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@farkam said:

Gosling shouldn't be playing any superheroes.

Why?

Because he is Ryan Gosling.

....

Now that I think of it he could make a good Daredevil.

#41 Posted by RustyRoy (10853 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam said:

@rustyroy said:

@farkam said:

Gosling shouldn't be playing any superheroes.

Why?

Because he is Ryan Gosling.

....

Now that I think of it he could make a good Daredevil.

Sorry I don't understand what you're saying.

#42 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Luke Evans could play the role. Gosling doesn't look Batmanish enough for me.

#43 Posted by RustyRoy (10853 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Obviously if we were casting for an older Batman I would have a different choice. There are tons of people who could play an old, grizzled Batman VERY well, but I think the reality is that isn't what we're going to get. We're going to get a guy who is just starting out as Batman after being inspired by the Man of Steel. With that in mind, I think Gosling is the best choice out of the age range we're looking for. Maaaaybe Bradley Cooper, but I've seen more range from Gosling.

Cooper isn't a bad choice at all for Bruce Wayne but can he pull off Batman?

#44 Posted by jleesuperman (1 posts) - - Show Bio

If you want oldschool... someone who looks like they had the mileage to become Batman... my vote is Josh Brolin. ( as a older Batman ) He did awesome in Gangster Squad. As a younger Batman... Arson Mount, Richard Armitage, .... or keep looking. One thing about Snyder he is always pushing for perfection...he'll pick a good Batman.

#45 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

#46 Edited by Breadspread (774 posts) - - Show Bio

Great actor, but I can't see this... but strange casting has paid off in the past, so never say never.

#47 Edited by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

Gosling comes up for a lot of male roles as a suggestion because he's incredibly talented. Sometimes that's all it really takes. Shocking I know.

#48 Edited by flameboy298 (1641 posts) - - Show Bio

I can see Him as Flash or someone else in the DC world I can't really see him as Bruce I mean if he can pull it off sweet but Him being Bruce is like ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh for me

#49 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9435 posts) - - Show Bio

Ryan Gosling is pretty much the new version of George Clooney soooooooooooo...........

#50 Edited by MuyJingo (1548 posts) - - Show Bio

Eric Bana.

He isn't a popular choice so people wouldn't have expectations going into the movie. He could make the role his own.

He has the physique. He can play the playboy aspect perfect, and be dark, brooding and intimidating as Batman.