Is there a good reason Joker's not dead?

And by that I mean, has there ever been a good reason given by the writers why Batman hasn't killed the Joker. I'm only specifically talking about the Joker because I find it hard to believe someone in GCPD or Batman wouldn't have killed him.

Yes I know the reason is that once Batman goes down that path there's no turning back, but I really don't buy that at all when it comes to the Joker, the guy is a genuine monster. At the very least he should do a Batman Begins and not kill him but let him die in one of his own schemes rather than save him like he sometimes does. I also don't think he lets him live because he would miss him if he were gone, but it's an interesting concept.

So has anyone ever seen a different take on the reason why he won't kill him, or is the no turning back reason the only one, because I kind of feel like that's a cop out. Anyone have any interesting ideas of their own?

(Also as a side note, have any of his other villains done things that are outrageously psychopathic to put them near on a par with Joker that you think he really should have killed them too?)

(Also, I understand they obviously wouldn't kill off these villains as they are awesome, just wondering if you'd seen any good reasoning)

the only thing i can think of is the plot. Other than that nope hell even frank miller had to write that batman was tired of joker's crap and was ready to kill him

According to Arkham Asylum, he is not mentally sane which is why he doesn't get the death penalty.

Because he is The Joker.

No, killing means life is worthless, nothing matter, since nothing matter there is no such thing like good an evil, right and wrong, no point on going foward or being alive.

If Batman kills The Joker just points this to be true, Jason also failed at killing the Joker for the fact he notice this.

What is the point of helping people, if there is not point in life and being dead or alive dont matter.

@deathpoolthet1000: You'd still think some random cop would have shot him after Batman knocked him out.

Easy answer for a simple question... He's a goddamn cashcow.

Maybe they never got the chance or James Gordon save his life every time they try to do this.

He wanted that Batman show him, that what they do matter and he was wrong about society and social rules.

Because batman isn't a sell out like every other hero these days

They did electrocution but somehow he came back. I think he learned a trick from Lord Deathman

The joker isn't real. Never was. He is just Bruce's split personality. The image of the clown is just a figment of Bruces imagination. Its a symbol for lost innoence, Bruce lost his innocence when he was a boy, watching his parents die. its only poetic that he would imagine a murderous clown. A sad mental barrier for a boy who went insane at age 8.

@jujutrain91: joker got shot in the head in grant morrisons run

Sell out??

Simply because they kill doesn't make them sellouts.

If that's what you were insinuating.

Causr hes the Motherf*cking Joker

Because he's too popular to be killed off bringing in money is like its own superpower.

If a character didnt kill because it was part of his personallity and wasnt an antihero, but then for the sake of being cool start killing and became an antihero, that is being a sell out, is a normal thing in comics.

Great. Another "Batman should kill Joker" thread.

Batman without the Joker is, as the saying goes, like Paris without the Eiffel Tower.

Joker is at a point where he represents more than a simple supervillain. He would love nothing better than to be killed by Batman, and that's the point. If Batman did it, he would have failed and rendered meaningless all these years of trying to uphold his code.

Also, you have to think that this is a story about a hero and a villain. If a random cop killed him, unless the story was amazingly well written, we would feel a little cheated.

If you want to argue about the plausibility of such a thing... well, it's just as plausible a simple human being able to do what Batman does without being 11 months a year in the hospital.

If they got rid of the Eiffel Tower people would get used to it. There is still l'Arc de Triomphe, Sacré Couer, Notre Dame, le Louvre. There is always something else, the tragic loss of the Twin Towers is a prime example. They put something else in its place. There are always options. The loss rarely effects the definition of the whole. The Joker could go, but he would probably take Batman with him. It is the only story big enough to warrant it.

Interesting.

This needs to be an else-worlds story.

Took the words out of my mouth. Of course it should be else-world... it wouldn't stand to logic with a lot of stuff the Joker did. But it would be fun :)

@dctv3363: Ah ah ah, doesn't make sense! Awesome!

Well, it actually did happen once . . . If you have read The Killing Joke, batman kills the Joker at the end. Thats why the laughing abruptly stopped. Moore wrote the last Batman/Joker story that ever need to be told.

Itz tru dawg

Lol, there's nothing in the script about it so it's not likely the case.

Because he is pretty much considered the greatest comicbook villain, so killing him would be like hacking off your own leg to prove a point.

Not really. Just because Grant Morrison interpreted it differently than everyone else on the face of the earth, doesn't make it true.

@kraytrawk: As good ol' BB put it: "I too strangle people by their shoulders".

Joker was taken away, not killed.

This is actually creepy as f**k, but it's not true.

To ensure the survival of these threads.

Nah. Of course its not true. Just a fan-fic i'm working on.

I would like to see a random thug kill the Joker. Joker seems to have a death wish but only considers Batman and his family the ones who have the "right" to kill him. There's no punchline to him getting killed by a random thug, which is exactly why he should die that way.

I like it! :D

he's dc's life support after the avengers movie.

Yeah, well, according to (someone in DCU): They're meant to do this forever.

Anyway, Batman can't and wont kill the joker, if he kills him then whats the point of being the Batman? Whats the point of Being the 'Dark Knight'? Even if he kill him then somehow he'll turn into Joker and then someone else will become batman.

Oh,I see. Yeah,I guess I can agree. It seems like they are trying to do that to Superman lately.

Because he's too profitable and popular to kill. DC could lose money from it.

I can't wait to read it.

cash

From a meta standpoint: The Joker is alive because he's an extremely popular character and he sells.

From an In Universe standpoint: The Joker is alive because Gothams law system is incompetent as all hell.

Ya I don't understand why its Batman's responsibility when really the state should just kill him on the spot...

@kraytrawk: that was a traumatizing comment. Ruined my childhood. Like taking candy from a baby.

Here's another question: Is there a good reason Joker has his face back? And no scars? -_-

@bloxxeh: I was hoping they would just pull an excuse out of their ass to why his face was put back on so that things can finally return to normal.