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#1 Edited by manofsteel699 (29 posts) - - Show Bio

dc needs to start using other characters and stop focusing only on batman.i know that batman is really popular but dc needs to also please fans of other characters.batman just got a movie trilogy,he has a video game almost every year,a new comic title almost every year,a new animated series every 2 or 3 years,he is going to get 2 animated movies next year.isn't that enough really?dc has so many characters with great potentials but they only see a potential in batman(if somebody told me that 10 years ago that iron man will be one of the most popular characters in world i would have say you're crazy).they could have done so many great things with a proper man of steel sequel like introducing new vilains.it is very disappointing that only bat fans get what they want.

#2 Posted by TekTheNinja (776 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by Jayc1324 (16733 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is there money maker. He's not taking away from other heroes. It's not like DC deletes things from other heroes for batman, they just don't use other heroes as much. It's not batmans fault.

Marvel knows how to balance it's characters but DC doesn't. There has to be a top dog, and batman is it. And by the way I see threads complaining about batman all the time

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#4 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2366 posts) - - Show Bio
@jayc1324 said:

Batman is there money maker. He's not taking away from other heroes. It's not like DC deletes things from other heroes for batman, they just don't use other heroes as much. It's not batmans fault.

Marvel knows how to balance it's characters but DC doesn't. There has to be a top dog, and batman is it. And by the way I see threads complaining about batman all the time

I think Batman has even surpassed Superman in terms of DC's top dog.

#5 Posted by Jayc1324 (16733 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by ImagineMan16 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been a die hard Batman fan in the past, but recently I've just grown bored with the character. I can't get excited for anything Batman-centric these days, and I've tried a great deal.

#7 Posted by Breadspread (771 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, but the audience is there. It wouldn't be too bad if there was a bigger differentiation between the Batman books. @tektheninja: where the hell is the Wonder Woman movie? They could be a step ahead with a really strong female superhero. As long as they don't over sexualize her and get caught up marketing it to teen age boys. Don't get me wrong, she can be attractive but they should do the character justice, and make her a strong, smart, independent female, because there is a definite need for a film about a character fitting that description.

#8 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

There is a demand for Batman, you may not like it but majority does, that's how he makes money and he's not the only character DC uses, Superman, GL are also very much used by DC not as much as Batman but still not to far behind, whoever can bring WB money will get the spotlight and right now its Batman, he has been for more than last 25 years. And all DC needs to do is make movies about other characters along with Batman and Superman. Marvel releases like 3 movies per year where DC releases 1 movie every 3 years. And yeah, I'd like to watch movies about other characters too in fact I'd rather go watch a Flash movie than a Batman/Superman movie or even their solo movies but after GL bombed WB is afraid to use any other characters other than Batman and Superman.

#9 Posted by MasterDetective (1130 posts) - - Show Bio

DC means Detective Comics

#10 Posted by sinestro_GL (3505 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a tricky situation.

Batman presently is DC's cash-cow...and I'm sure that the executives over there know that plenty of other characters could be just ass profitable as Batman if they were given the same kind of treatment. However, there are always risks in doing that. Green Lantern, for instance, was a very profitable comic book, BUT when they decided to take the risk and give him his own movie...which tanked

#11 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Batman is there money maker. He's not taking away from other heroes. It's not like DC deletes things from other heroes for batman, they just don't use other heroes as much. It's not batmans fault.

Marvel knows how to balance it's characters but DC doesn't. There has to be a top dog, and batman is it. And by the way I see threads complaining about batman all the time

yes he is. dc is not putting writers on other hero books because they want 50 books with bats.

#12 Posted by havoc1201 (565 posts) - - Show Bio

really not much of a question, more of a statement but...Batman being added to superman 2 does not take away from superman or the rest of the DC characters by WB putting their two biggest characters into one movie means a real start to the expanded universe, and with the success of the future movie means JUSTICE LEAGUE! so be thankful Batman is a money maker also after MOS superman is a cash cow also so maybe soon this topic will be is Superman over used and you can complain about how Superman is the only character that gets attention.

#13 Posted by Vitalius (3348 posts) - - Show Bio

@manofsteel699:

Well most of the fans don´t care much about others character aside from the popular characters. There were good books on New 52 that were cancelled too fast. Should DC focus on other characters that fans don´t care about ? Plus Batman were just add to have connection to Justice League movie, since last Batman movie were no powers universe and new Batman ´s film couldn´t be a good ideia a team up film like this is kind new at least on superhero movie.

#14 Edited by CheeseSticks (2739 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow there's so much hate toward Batman on ComicVine. Are you jealous or what ? Batman is a better character than WW or Supes, accept it.

#15 Posted by Outside_85 (11577 posts) - - Show Bio

In a way he is stifling the development of other franchises, because his works and DC/WB isn't interested in anything but making money, which he is very good at, at least with the movies.

In comics atm around 25% of all New 52 books are under Batman's wing, even if they have little to nothing to do with him normally and still risked getting sucked into events that really don't concern them and really only serves to derail their own stories.

#16 Posted by Whodid (82 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree other characters need a chance, but hey at least they have given Green Arrow a TV Show, Superman a new movie and they are doing something with The Flash next year but yes Batman does have the spotlight too much, but on the plus side (at least for me) I never get bored of Batman.

#17 Posted by Justthatkid (5899 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Edited by Justthatkid (5899 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Batman is there money maker. He's not taking away from other heroes. It's not like DC deletes things from other heroes for batman, they just don't use other heroes as much. It's not batmans fault.

Marvel knows how to balance it's characters but DC doesn't. There has to be a top dog, and batman is it. And by the way I see threads complaining about batman all the time

That's DC's problem completely if they did around as much things as what they do for Batman for other characters they could be benefiting more out of it but there scared to try to expand out of Batman which they should still keep doing things for obviously but they could always make character cameo's in some of his games maybe introducing some characters like that, and etc. I know Batman games are more for Batman mainly but Imagine a game featuring the outsiders since there trying to get Katana attention as well.

#19 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

@justthatkid: They're trying dude. The GL movie cost more than 200 mils to make, even TDK didn't have that kind of budget, no Batman movie had except TDKR and Injustice had so many DC characters(agreed most of them were Batrelated but it did have many other characters) and they made a show about GA. Batman Brave and the bold featured many characters so did YJ and GL, BtB will use lesser known characters too. Not to mention DC had put many titles about lesser known character but most people don't buy those.

#20 Posted by Jayc1324 (16733 posts) - - Show Bio

@cheesesticks: I completely agree with you. They're just jealous their favorite hero doesn't get as much attention

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#21 Posted by Amaryllis (74 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Edited by TekTheNinja (776 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, but the audience is there. It wouldn't be too bad if there was a bigger differentiation between the Batman books. @tektheninja: where the hell is the Wonder Woman movie? They could be a step ahead with a really strong female superhero. As long as they don't over sexualize her and get caught up marketing it to teen age boys. Don't get me wrong, she can be attractive but they should do the character justice, and make her a strong, smart, independent female, because there is a definite need for a film about a character fitting that description.

absolutely. :)

#23 Edited by THEOCITYLEGEND (1449 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely not.

#24 Posted by Justthatkid (5899 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@justthatkid: They're trying dude. The GL movie cost more than 200 mils to make, even TDK didn't have that kind of budget, no Batman movie had except TDKR and Injustice had so many DC characters(agreed most of them were Batrelated but it did have many other characters) and they made a show about GA. Batman Brave and the bold featured many characters so did YJ and GL, BtB will use lesser known characters too. Not to mention DC had put many titles about lesser known character but most people don't buy those.

Geoff John's favorite character getting a movie is not really trying, before the cartoon the General population probably did not know who Hal was and they did not do as much advertising for it as they did for MOS which seeing the trailers made me personally want to see the movie, They also strayed to far away from the comic version. GL and YJ were doing well with showing lesser known characters at least there interpretation of them which was pretty accurately based on the characters like Arsenal was a great example of Roy from the comics yet they cancelled it which really says not trying. I do think having katana in Beware the Batman was nice for the character opposed to throwing in Grayson who the majority know so there's a thumbs up to DC. Cancelling YJ for Baby Titans is not trying however.

#25 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

Geoff John's favorite character getting a movie is not really trying, before the cartoon the General population probably did not know who Hal was and they did not do as much advertising for it as they did for MOS which seeing the trailers made me personally want to see the movie, They also strayed to far away from the comic version. GL and YJ were doing well with showing lesser known characters at least there interpretation of them which was pretty accurately based on the characters like Arsenal was a great example of Roy from the comics yet they cancelled it which really says not trying. I do think having katana in Beware the Batman was nice for the character opposed to throwing in Grayson who the majority know so there's a thumbs up to DC. Cancelling YJ for Baby Titans is not trying however.

You know the big bosses on WB don't care about Geoff Johns. I agree the marketing wasn't as impressive as MoS but it was far better than Begins and many other movies. They did put more than 200 mils just in the movie and don't know how much more on marketing. They cancelled YJ and GL because they weren't making money. I want to see a Flash movie more than a Batman/Superman movie or even their solo movies. Their just playing it safe now, you would've too if you lost more than 200 mils.

#26 Posted by Justthatkid (5899 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy: YJ was making and so was GL I believe it had something to do with toy sales anyways Geoff had something to do with GL I'm sure of it they might not care about what he like's but he can persuade them.

#27 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

@justthatkid: That's why I said they weren't making money, toy and merch sales account for the majority of the money for animated series. And Geoff Johns wrote the script and WB made GL because it was one of DC's biggest character and even outsell Batman and Superman comics if I remember correctly.

#28 Posted by Knightfall225 (2063 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course DC will overuse their best character...

#29 Edited by Wolverine08 (47895 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course DC will overuse their best character...

This.

#30 Posted by THORSON (3102 posts) - - Show Bio

yes.

#31 Posted by Wolverine08 (47895 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don't understand people who say "Why do Marvel and DC focus on a certain character?". If you don't like a character, don't buy the books. I'm not a big Superman fan, and he's in about 9-10 books right now. Do you want to know what I do? I avoid the stuff with Superman I don't want, and I only get two books with Superman a month. I don't know why the OP can't do the same with Batman.

#32 Edited by Eternal19 (2172 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is getting a decent amount attention right now to.

#33 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1291 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Batman is there money maker. He's not taking away from other heroes. It's not like DC deletes things from other heroes for batman, they just don't use other heroes as much. It's not batmans fault.

Marvel knows how to balance it's characters but DC doesn't. There has to be a top dog, and batman is it. And by the way I see threads complaining about batman all the time

yes he is. dc is not putting writers on other hero books because they want 50 books with bats.

Please kindly log out and never log back in. How is it a fictional characters fault DC/WB only want to make things with Batman in them. This isn't just about books it's about movies, games and tv if DC doesn't think other characters can bring in as much money as Batman then they aren't going to put out as much stuff for them. It's like complaining there are too many pizza shops and not enough Thai restaurant it's not the fault of the pizza shop owners they're smart enough to understand supply and demand. I swear if some of the "geniuses" here were in charge of DC they'd be releasing 10 bomb... I mean movies a year starring D-Listers the GA wouldn't give a crap about.

#34 Posted by Ciriel (414 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya think? None of that matters though. It makes the most money, so it's the go to cash cow

#35 Posted by TheWolverine04 (195 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: I think the OP has a point. What DC really needs is more Wolverine!

#36 Posted by Wolverine08 (47895 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by Wolverine08 (47895 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer said:

@jayc1324 said:

Batman is there money maker. He's not taking away from other heroes. It's not like DC deletes things from other heroes for batman, they just don't use other heroes as much. It's not batmans fault.

Marvel knows how to balance it's characters but DC doesn't. There has to be a top dog, and batman is it. And by the way I see threads complaining about batman all the time

yes he is. dc is not putting writers on other hero books because they want 50 books with bats.

Please kindly log out and never log back in. How is it a fictional characters fault DC/WB only want to make things with Batman in them. This isn't just about books it's about movies, games and tv if DC doesn't think other characters can bring in as much money as Batman then they aren't going to put out as much stuff for them. It's like complaining there are too many pizza shops and not enough Thai restaurant it's not the fault of the pizza shop owners they're smart enough to understand supply and demand. I swear if some of the "geniuses" here were in charge of DC they'd be releasing 10 bomb... I mean movies a year starring D-Listers the GA wouldn't give a crap about.

THIS.

#38 Posted by SandMan_ (4581 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is getting a decent amount attention right now to.

For the moment. But something is something.

#39 Posted by Catsnlynne (1167 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Batman is way overused. But then again I'm not a fan of his.

#40 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2366 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow there's so much hate toward Batman on ComicVine. Are you jealous or what ? Batman is a better character than WW or Supes, accept it.

Its not hate but anger at WB and DC. Marvel does a waaaaay better job bringing their characters focus and attention.

#41 Posted by Jayc1324 (16733 posts) - - Show Bio

If you don't like batman then don't buy his books. It doesn't matter if he has 10 of them, just dot buy them. Stick I what you like. No need to complain about it

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#42 Edited by lifeofvibe (3766 posts) - - Show Bio

Here my idea give dc a million dollars and see what books they put out

If its batman titles then yes they are over using him

If its characters like vibe then they arent trying to over use him

#43 Edited by OutlawRenegade (1394 posts) - - Show Bio

marvel movies cannot fall back on wolverine or spiderman which boosts the profiles of other heroes. too bad they didn't give away the rights to Batman. :-P

#44 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

@cheesesticks said:

Wow there's so much hate toward Batman on ComicVine. Are you jealous or what ? Batman is a better character than WW or Supes, accept it.

Its not hate but anger at WB and DC. Marvel does a waaaaay better job bringing their characters focus and attention.

Looks more like hate towards Batman tbh. And yeah Marvel is doing a better job right now but that's because Iron Man clicked with the GP and was a box office success, if SR was a success then we could've gotten the Batman/Superman movie before Iron Man, if GL was successful then we could've gotten a JL movie sooner, and WB had plans for JL a movie way before Marvel thought of Avengers but it got stuck in development hell due to writer's strike. DC's problem is that they are under WB and WB won't let other studios use their well known properties. Marvel jumped from Universal to Columbia to Paramount where they finally got success before finding a home at Disney, DC couldn't do that. And Marvel doesn't get much share from Wolverine or Spider-Man properties too, Disney has to give some of their profits to Paramount. WB is going through many troubles right now if you're keeping up with the news so they want to play it safe, MoS didn't perform that well, yes it was a success but its not enough and WB needs something to compete with Avengers 2, Star Wars, DOFP etc. so they are bringing in Batman. Superman and Batman are timeless Icons, combined their they have made more than the MCU and in the long run they're do better than any Marvel character except maybe Spider-Man.

#45 Posted by Fallschirmjager (19627 posts) - - Show Bio

The only thing I think Batman is overused in is cartoons / animated series. We've had how many Batman cartoons now?

I'd like to see more of Superheros get their own animated series - and last more than 1 season.

Flash anybody? Aquaman? Wonder Women!?!? I think we'd all welcome those in a cartoon format - at least.

Suppose its nice they keep pumping out animated films though. Flashpoint was yet another excellent one. And again - because Flash is the "main" character its a very refreshing and new feeling.

Otherwise I think Batman is fine. The Tim Burten movies in the 90's are a bit of a joke. Sure the Nolan movies just ended but...you want to tell me you don't want a Batman/Supmerman movie or eventually Justice League? Cause there's no way Justice League is going to NOT have Batman in it.

#46 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Agreed, he's been only overused in animated series just Superman has been in live action TV series. And I'd kill for a Flash animated series.

#47 Posted by ViperKing (424 posts) - - Show Bio

@manofsteel699: Batman is definitely overused by DC Comics. He is literally the most popular character in DC even though he's already been established as a great character. Honestly though, the only problem that I have with him is his involvement in animation, live-action, and video games. I would much rather see other characters taking the spotlight instead of Batman being the centerpiece. Marvel has done a much better job of establishing several different characters and giving them their own movies. Everyone knows who Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, Spiderman, Thor and Wolverine are and their respective abilities. People know little about Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Wonder Woman, if they don't read comics. Even though his products generate the most income, they can still give other characters time alongside Batman. Anyways, Batman could still be the centerpiece of DC even if other characters had their own live-action movies, live-action TV shows, animated movies, and animated TV shows. I will say that I don't see a problem with how they're doing comics or video games because other characters haven't been established yet. It's not Batman's fault though. It's Warner Bros' fault that they can't stop using Batman. After all, Batman has benefited DC Comics tremendously. The Arkham series is one of the most popular games in the last decade. The Dark Knight trilogy are one of the best comic-based live-action movies of all-time. Batman: The Animated Series is one of the best animated TV shows of all-time. I'm sure we an all agree it is not that we don't want Batman in the spotlight. It's that we want more of other characters to share the spotlight.

#48 Posted by EmperorJosh (104 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely. DC tries to throw Batman in everything that they do. Its becoming tiring. Around 4 Batman shows in the last 20 years, Batman trilogies and They find a way to put him in nearly all the animated films. Ughh not to mention that a year after his last film, they're already talking reboots. This is crazy...

#49 Edited by InnerVenom123 (29814 posts) - - Show Bio

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#50 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

@manofsteel699: Batman is definitely overused by DC Comics. He is literally the most popular character in DC even though he's already been established as a great character. Honestly though, the only problem that I have with him is his involvement in animation, live-action, and video games. I would much rather see other characters taking the spotlight instead of Batman being the centerpiece. Marvel has done a much better job of establishing several different characters and giving them their own movies. Everyone knows who Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, Spiderman, Thor and Wolverine are and their respective abilities. People know little about Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Wonder Woman, if they don't read comics. Even though his products generate the most income, they can still give other characters time alongside Batman. Anyways, Batman could still be the centerpiece of DC even if other characters had their own live-action movies, live-action TV shows, animated movies, and animated TV shows. I will say that I don't see a problem with how they're doing comics or video games because other characters haven't been established yet. It's not Batman's fault though. It's Warner Bros' fault that they can't stop using Batman. After all, Batman has benefited DC Comics tremendously. The Arkham series is one of the most popular games in the last decade. The Dark Knight trilogy are one of the best comic-based live-action movies of all-time. Batman: The Animated Series is one of the best animated TV shows of all-time. I'm sure we an all agree it is not that we don't want Batman in the spotlight. It's that we want more of other characters to share the spotlight.

This post is perfect, have you ever thought if Superman returns was a success then we could've gotten a WF movie in 2008 and if the GL movie was a success then we could've seen more DC characters in movies, I still think WB should do a Flash movie instead of a TV series.