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Posted by k4tzm4n (50950 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is a classic and often regarded as one of the top movies about the Dark Knight. It's an engaging and emotional mystery that every Batman fan needs to watch at least once, but, according to the Comic Vine community, it isn't the best Batman animated film. Nearly 400 Comic Viners have voted since Monday and the poll was very, very close for quite some time. It was neck and neck, but as the week progressed, Brandon Vietti and Judd Winick's movie began to take a decent lead.

It's commonly said that 2010's animated movie is debatably the best modern DC animated movie (there's no denying it has some strong competition, though). Few will be surprised by the identity of Batman's latest threat, but that's not the point at all. It's all about watching Batman as he makes these discoveries for himself, the emotion it pulls from him, and how he handles the scenario. Even though a vast majority of us know who the Red Hood truly is, the execution of Bruce's dilemma is great and packed with emotion. And that ending? It gets me every single time. But this movie isn't purely about how Bruce is handling these developments -- it's also loaded with exciting action, cameos, and a fair amount of humor. Watching Batman and Nightwing work as a team is thrilling and John DiMaggio did a thoroughly entertaining job bringing Joker to life.

As said above, both movies are excellent and mandatory viewing for fans of DC's iconic hero. Now, let's see how the poll turned out.

  • Batman: Under the Red Hood 48%
  • Batman: Mask of the Phantasm 35%
  • I love both of them 14%
  • Sorry, I'm not a fan of either 1% (GASP!)
  • It brings me great shame to admit I haven't watched both and won't be able to before Friday 1%

This match kept the community talking for multiple pages. So, let's see what a few of them had to say about the poll's options.

Casshern

"I've seen both...But I only own one...Batman Mask of the Phantasm!!

Its not just the story...THE MUSIC RULES!! I even own the soundtrack! This is the only animated DC movie I have a soundtrack for ( I think its the only DC movie they made one for?).

I like how they tied this in with Batman Beyond too.

The Phantasm story-line has some of the BEST Batman History telling events revealed...in one movie!

Best Movie Scene: Song 8 from the Soundtrack "The Birth of Batman" Yeah...when he puts on the cowl, and all you see are his eyes glaring at you and Alfred gets all scared taking two steps back saying..'My...God.'"

SupBatz

"Under the Red Hood is he best depiction of Batman and the Joker I have ever seen. Not to mention one of the greatest films, animated or otherwise, I've ever had the pleasure of watching. So definitely UtRH, for me. Though Mask of the Phantasm was also an amazing film."

Dedpool

"Really hard decision! I had to go with Both! I love Red Hood more, but Mask of the Phantasm holds a special place in my heart for doing such a great job of telling a story, introducing new characters, AND it's classic Batman: The Animated Series. That Noir look to the show never gets old, and Mark hamil really got to play it up. AND it was released in theatres. But I REALLY love Under the Red Hood. It was a great story, love the source material, Nightwing gets to shine in his actual comic uniform, AND is voiced by Neil Patrick Harris, I loved John DiMaggio's take on the Joker, and his scenes are just fantastic. PLUS GREAT ACTION and a great story!! So yeah I'm torn. I really think Mask of Phantasm was a better film, but I really do like them equally for different reasons. This is why I don't have a favorite movie."

That's it for this week, Viners! Be sure to check the homepage on Monday for a brand new edition of this segment. In the meantime, go ahead and tell us your favorite scene in either of these Batman movies. Also, if you want to suggest a future match-up for this segment, tell us below or reach out via twitter.

#1 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (34287 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually think Batman Beyond: The Movie is my favorite DC animated movie but Red Hood is in second place.

#2 Posted by fallbrigade (117 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed Red Hood, but I never would have placed it at #1 on my list. Actually kinda surprised by this.

#3 Edited by Justthatkid (4640 posts) - - Show Bio

great animation and great story telling no surprise to me.

Also had Nightwing and Red Hood in it. 2 Boy wonders

#4 Edited by ClawFist (355 posts) - - Show Bio

DC and Scott Snyder need to bring the Phantasm to the main DCU :D

#5 Posted by AirDave817 (824 posts) - - Show Bio

I can see where the animation on Red Hood surpasses Mask of the Phantasm. The animation on Public Enemies is improved over World's Finest. I still prefer Phantasm. I don't care for Jason Todd or his return as Red Hood. That's probably the deal-breaker for me...

#6 Posted by Nahuel (391 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm ashamed to admit I haven't seen Mask of the Phantasm. ;(

But I do love and own Under the Red Hood. Such a great movie! Such great action! Such great voice casting! Neil Patrick Harris, Jansen Ackles, John Dimaggio nailed their parts and the dialogs were terrific, specially Joker's.

And the final scene keeps bringing tears to my eyes every time.

Now I'm gonna search the interwebs for a place to buy Mask of the Phantasm to remove this shame.

#7 Edited by Manchine (4185 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea I am the 1%!

#8 Posted by i_dont_like_comics (770 posts) - - Show Bio

was there ever any doubt? no, there wasn't. 100 + viewings, infinite joy.

#9 Edited by Ninjablade09 (3178 posts) - - Show Bio

I love both, but my favorite Batman animated movie is Return of the Joker just because of the part when Joker tells Bruce he knows who he is. Such a great and dramatic scene, and was pretty dark.

"It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Ah what the heck I'll laugh anyway."

Red Hood is a close second though, the final fight between Jason and Bruce is emotional and action packed. You feel each hit. Not only that, but it brought in some great voice acting from Jensen Ackles, Neil Patrick Harris, and my favorite Batman, Bruce Greenwood.

#10 Posted by TheDemoGoblin (660 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hood is an amazing film.

Definitely better then any of the Nolan films.

#11 Posted by Mercy_ (92985 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm a little surprised the votes were that close. I personally prefer Mask of the Phantasm, but it seems that fandom (or at least the vocal part on CV) as a whole vastly prefers Under the Red Hood. I thought that would've won by a landslide.

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#12 Posted by Pokeysteve (8527 posts) - - Show Bio

Booooooo

#13 Posted by RustyRoy (13532 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer MotP

#14 Posted by flameboy298 (1908 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Really?Interesting..I thought it was good but easily forget able.

#15 Posted by GraniteSoldier (8589 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Edited by Onemoreposter (4086 posts) - - Show Bio

This is blasphemous.

#17 Edited by dimitridkatsis (2311 posts) - - Show Bio

These polls mean nothing, many of the voters sayed they haven't seen both films and most of them when asked reply "Jason Todd bang bang bang better action" it just goes to show the low standards people have.

#18 Posted by k4tzm4n (50950 posts) - - Show Bio
@manchine said:

Yea I am the 1%!

Which 1%, though? If you don't like either, I'm curious to hear why!

#19 Posted by Manchine (4185 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:
@manchine said:

Yea I am the 1%!

Which 1%, though? If you don't like either, I'm curious to hear why!

Didn't realise there was 2, 1%'s. I am not a fan of batman. I don't like any Darkheroes. Batman, Moonknight, Daredevil, etc don't interest me at all. Batman is the leader of the pack of darkheroes, specially with the fanboys.

#20 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22713 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hood is an amazing film.

Definitely better then any of the Nolan films.

This, but Begins is fantastic.

#21 Posted by Wilbertus (345 posts) - - Show Bio

It is criminal to make someone choose between these two.

#22 Posted by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Hood is an amazing film.

Definitely better then any of the Nolan films.

Haha no,every single Nolan movie is better,you cant even compare the Nolan brothers to Judd Winick of all people.

#23 Posted by k4tzm4n (50950 posts) - - Show Bio

It is criminal to make someone choose between these two.

I didn't. Remember "I love both of them" is an option on the poll? ;)

#24 Posted by Ninjablade09 (3178 posts) - - Show Bio

One thing I loved about Red Hood is the bathroom Jason and Bats fight in has no door.

#25 Posted by Krypton-115 (441 posts) - - Show Bio

Although I didn't vote, I'm very pleased with the winner, what an amazing movie UTRH is.

#26 Posted by CyberWarrior (1570 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes!! God is real and so is Justice!

#27 Posted by RoTheKid (254 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep, not surprised here. Under the Red Hood was an excellent movie! :)

#28 Posted by danhimself (22682 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually remember my dad taking me to the movie theater to see Mask of the Phantasm

#29 Posted by Jay_Russ (36 posts) - - Show Bio

The Dark Knight returns, both 1 and 2 are the best to me as of now, Under the Red hood is second. I haven't seen MOP yet, I'll check it out this weekend.

#30 Posted by AmazingWebHead (3820 posts) - - Show Bio

It was pretty good, even if Black Mask was a punk.

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#31 Posted by redhood21 (816 posts) - - Show Bio

i think mask of the phantasm is better written and on par with the animated series it spawned from, but under the red hood is a story close to a lot of fans hearts my self included. Its my favorite character and to see him kickin butt on the tee vee was magical

#32 Posted by DoctorXander (1183 posts) - - Show Bio

:(

#33 Posted by HumanRocket (8919 posts) - - Show Bio

I am happy :D

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#34 Posted by detective38 (183 posts) - - Show Bio

nobody respects the classics

#35 Posted by brinkthemoviemyfavoritemovie (184 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Nah actually they're terrible and started the decline of superhero movies into the dark, miserable, and boring.

What are the other good DC animated movies? I never really paid attention to them before.

#36 Posted by SuperJedi17 (300 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm no idea how I missed this one, I've seen both and personally think Mask of the Phantasm is one of the best batman movies to ever release,and find it more to my liking than most of the live action releases.

#37 Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse (6364 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool.

#38 Posted by Pr0metheus (5416 posts) - - Show Bio

I've seen Mask of the Phantasm but what was so good about it? It was average at best.

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#40 Posted by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Nah actually they're terrible and started the decline of superhero movies into the dark, miserable, and boring.

What are the other good DC animated movies? I never really paid attention to them before.

Your opinion and one that flies in the face of actual facts,TDKT has inspired plenty of other good movies both cbm and non cbm. I'd rather watch those darker movies over Green Lantern and Thor movies

#42 Posted by Don_Quixote (714 posts) - - Show Bio

Under the Red Hood is by far better.

Probably the best animated movie I have ever seen.

#43 Posted by Hit_Monkey (957 posts) - - Show Bio

@dimitridkatsis:

"These polls mean nothing, many of the voters sayed they haven't seen both films and most of them when asked reply "Jason Todd bang bang bang better action" it just goes to show the low standards people have."

Butthurt much?

#44 Edited by dimitridkatsis (2311 posts) - - Show Bio

@dimitridkatsis:

"These polls mean nothing, many of the voters sayed they haven't seen both films and most of them when asked reply "Jason Todd bang bang bang better action" it just goes to show the low standards people have."

Butthurt much?

#45 Posted by angelalfonso (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm not a big fan of dc but his latest animated movies have been great, and i haven't seen under the red hood yet but if it as good as the others i should totally give it a shot, mask of the phantom was good back in the day, but it hasn't aged very well, still good anyway.

#46 Posted by vandinejd_1991 (321 posts) - - Show Bio

No Batman film will ever reign over a Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill film!!!!!

#47 Posted by Hit_Monkey (957 posts) - - Show Bio

@hit_monkey said:

@dimitridkatsis:

"These polls mean nothing, many of the voters sayed they haven't seen both films and most of them when asked reply "Jason Todd bang bang bang better action" it just goes to show the low standards people have."

Butthurt much?

A gif! What you're saying MUST be true then...

#48 Posted by spidermonkey2099 (615 posts) - - Show Bio

Love both, but I've gotta go with Mask of the Phantasm. I just love the voice acting of Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil. Plus, Shirley Walker's soundtrack for the film is incredible (love that operatic take on the theme song at the beginning). And the team behind this movie and the animated series were just the best at telling Batman stories.

#49 Posted by Dedpool (369 posts) - - Show Bio

HOLY CRAP!!! My comment got used!!!

#50 Posted by Dedpool (369 posts) - - Show Bio

@ninjablade09 - That was one of my favorite lines from that film, and yeah it's definitely up there for me too!! "Papa Spank!!!" LMAO!!! Hamill got to go nuts in that,

But I love DiMaggio in Under the Red Hood. That final confrontation and reveal was just too much. "Oh Oh, who's got a camera? Let's get one of you and me, then the three of us, and then one with the crowbar!"