#1 Posted by LyraFay (2527 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman and Superman both sides of one coins, one is god-like being who represents the light while the other is a human who represents the darkness of humanity. Both are icons in there own right and both are how America portrays itself. But does The Dark Knight bring out an different side of The Man of Steel, I ask this question because whenever they are placed within comic pages or on screen, they both become an answer and question. Whether that is The Dark Knight Returns, Red Son, Kingdom Come, World's Finest, we see Superman constantly question his humanity when he's with Batman.

And now since Warner Brothers has announced a film with the two of them in it. Then does mean that Batman is one to bring Superman's different side.

#2 Edited by RDClip (1129 posts) - - Show Bio

Na, Superman is interesting even without him. I really wish that it would go both ways. Superman is really Clark Kent; a god-like who wishes he could be a normal person. Bruce Wayne is really Batman; a man who wishes he could be the incarnation of justice.

I would like a discussion where Superman tells Batman that he still has a chance at a normal life while Superman is bascially forever obligated to be a superhero.

#3 Edited by ULTRAstarkiller (6183 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe

#4 Posted by PapiNacho (2410 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes Batman enhances Superman's appeal but it also works in reverse, both characters just work well together.

#5 Posted by Jeremy1989 (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@rdclip said:

Na, Superman is interesting even without him. I really wish that it would go both ways. Superman is really Clark Kent; a god-like who wishes he could be a normal person. Bruce Wayne is really Batman; a man who wishes he could be the incarnation of justice.

I would like a discussion where Superman tells Batman that he still has a chance at a normal life while Superman is bascially forever obligated to be a superhero.

So you're saying that Bruce Wayne to be everything that Clark is a SUPER-man, and Clark wanted to be wanted to be Bruce is, which was human.

#6 Posted by Divine_Disorder (107 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't find Superman on his own interesting at all, but put him and Batman in a story together and I'm sold. They have almost nothing in common, and yet they're best friends. I just love the contrast between their personalities, and I guess, their chemistry and interaction, whether saving the world together or bickering like an old married couple. It's always fun to watch/read. Kinda like Bert and Ernie.

#7 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10859 posts) - - Show Bio

For what i have read is the other way around, Batman gets less human so Clark hs to get there to make him relatable.

This thread make angry Superman fans to get here and attack Batman fans.

#8 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1652 posts) - - Show Bio

When both are written together they serve as excellent foils for each other, yes. That's why i've always enjoyed the Superman/Batman comic, where we even get to see the thoughts of both characters as they work together and what one thinks about the other.

#9 Posted by BloodTalon (440 posts) - - Show Bio

I only like them when they are working with other heroes, I like them a lot whennit is just the two of them that is why I buy BM/SM and not either of there solo books, alone they both bore me.

#10 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

They complement each other.

#11 Posted by TheBhramaBull (282 posts) - - Show Bio

Well usually they really complement each other. They both make each other more interesting I think.

But in New52 Superman likes to troll Batman for some reason, which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I get the point they were trying to make "Pa said never to punch down" and "He's the only one I don't need to worry about", i.e for want of a better phrase, Bruce is in the big boy leagues with him and he's the only other person he knows he doesn't have to worry about getting hurt and getting the job done (I think Bruce was fighting Metal-Men)

But still, the fact he likes to "Poke the Bat" and "Troll batman" made me face palm hard.

#12 Edited by DeathpooltheT1000 (10859 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by DarkDay (634 posts) - - Show Bio

@rdclip said:

Na, Superman is interesting even without him. I really wish that it would go both ways. Superman is really Clark Kent; a god-like who wishes he could be a normal person. Bruce Wayne is really Batman; a man who wishes he could be the incarnation of justice.

I would like a discussion where Superman tells Batman that he still has a chance at a normal life while Superman is bascially forever obligated to be a superhero.

Yes Batman enhances Superman's appeal but it also works in reverse, both characters just work well together.

These.

#14 Posted by Divine_Disorder (107 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread make angry Superman fans to get here and attack Batman fans.

Only if retarded fanboys on both sides post their "my-superhero-can-beat-up-your-superhero" nonsense over and over again just to soothe their bruised, insecure egos. Can't we have a decent Superman-Batman discussion without it turning into a flame war?

But in New52 Superman likes to troll Batman for some reason, which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I get the point they were trying to make "Pa said never to punch down" and "He's the only one I don't need to worry about", i.e for want of a better phrase, Bruce is in the big boy leagues with him and he's the only other person he knows he doesn't have to worry about getting hurt and getting the job done (I think Bruce was fighting Metal-Men)

But still, the fact he likes to "Poke the Bat" and "Troll batman" made me face palm hard.

Really? Haven't read any New 52 with Superman in it. They made him snarky? Are they trying to shed his boy scout image or something?

#15 Posted by TheBhramaBull (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

This thread make angry Superman fans to get here and attack Batman fans.

Only if retarded fanboys on both sides post their "my-superhero-can-beat-up-your-superhero" nonsense over and over again just to soothe their bruised, insecure egos. Can't we have a decent Superman-Batman discussion without it turning into a flame war?

@thebhramabull said:

But in New52 Superman likes to troll Batman for some reason, which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I get the point they were trying to make "Pa said never to punch down" and "He's the only one I don't need to worry about", i.e for want of a better phrase, Bruce is in the big boy leagues with him and he's the only other person he knows he doesn't have to worry about getting hurt and getting the job done (I think Bruce was fighting Metal-Men)

But still, the fact he likes to "Poke the Bat" and "Troll batman" made me face palm hard.

Really? Haven't read any New 52 with Superman in it. They made him snarky? Are they trying to shed his boy scout image or something?

Those quotes are from Batman/Superman 5, and they made me cringe! But he is definitely not a boy scout new 52. Well not yet at least. In fact I find him slightly annoying, I guess they're trying to make him edgier of something.

#16 Edited by DeathpooltheT1000 (10859 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

This thread make angry Superman fans to get here and attack Batman fans.

Only if retarded fanboys on both sides post their "my-superhero-can-beat-up-your-superhero" nonsense over and over again just to soothe their bruised, insecure egos. Can't we have a decent Superman-Batman discussion without it turning into a flame war?

@thebhramabull said:

But in New52 Superman likes to troll Batman for some reason, which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I get the point they were trying to make "Pa said never to punch down" and "He's the only one I don't need to worry about", i.e for want of a better phrase, Bruce is in the big boy leagues with him and he's the only other person he knows he doesn't have to worry about getting hurt and getting the job done (I think Bruce was fighting Metal-Men)

But still, the fact he likes to "Poke the Bat" and "Troll batman" made me face palm hard.

Really? Haven't read any New 52 with Superman in it. They made him snarky? Are they trying to shed his boy scout image or something?

Saddly every time you bring this subject here it became how much Batman kick Superman ass and alsmot kill him, then Sperman fans get in here in a rampage and the holy war of the Batman vs Superman Fanbases begin.

I mean go to one of the Batman being gay, even when is obvious those are troll thread, some of the comment compare beng gay with being a child molester.

And they were serious about it.

#17 Posted by Black_Arrow (3157 posts) - - Show Bio

No they don't nothing to other, They only add something to a shared universe.

#18 Posted by Divine_Disorder (107 posts) - - Show Bio

Those quotes are from Batman/Superman 5, and they made me cringe! But he is definitely not a boy scout new 52. Well not yet at least. In fact I find him slightly annoying, I guess they're trying to make him edgier of something.

I thought Batman was supposed to be the edgy, broody one to Superman's sunnier disposition? Isn't that why they they have such great chemistry together, because of their contrast and balance? So they're both edgy and broody now? No more of that awesome yin-yang thing they got going on. Now it's just yin? Or just yang? Well that sucks.

But besides that, is the series still worth reading? Is it part of the New 52 continuity or is it non-canon?

@divine_disorder said:

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

This thread make angry Superman fans to get here and attack Batman fans.

Only if retarded fanboys on both sides post their "my-superhero-can-beat-up-your-superhero" nonsense over and over again just to soothe their bruised, insecure egos. Can't we have a decent Superman-Batman discussion without it turning into a flame war?

@thebhramabull said:

But in New52 Superman likes to troll Batman for some reason, which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I get the point they were trying to make "Pa said never to punch down" and "He's the only one I don't need to worry about", i.e for want of a better phrase, Bruce is in the big boy leagues with him and he's the only other person he knows he doesn't have to worry about getting hurt and getting the job done (I think Bruce was fighting Metal-Men)

But still, the fact he likes to "Poke the Bat" and "Troll batman" made me face palm hard.

Really? Haven't read any New 52 with Superman in it. They made him snarky? Are they trying to shed his boy scout image or something?

Saddly every time you bring this subject here it became how much Batman kick Superman ass and alsmot kill him, then Sperman fans get in here in a rampage and the holy war of the Batman vs Superman Fanbases begin.

I mean go to one of the Batman being gay, even when is obvious those are troll thread, some of the comment compare beng gay with being a child molester.

And they were serious about it.

Yep, definitely retards. Their own heroes would be ashamed of them.

Batman & Superman: *FACEPALM*

#19 Posted by Justthatkid (3960 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on how you play of their working together I liked how they were in Public Enemies bu in TDK Returns they kinda one pointed it.

#20 Edited by TheBhramaBull (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebhramabull said:

Those quotes are from Batman/Superman 5, and they made me cringe! But he is definitely not a boy scout new 52. Well not yet at least. In fact I find him slightly annoying, I guess they're trying to make him edgier of something.

I thought Batman was supposed to be the edgy, broody one to Superman's sunnier disposition? Isn't that why they they have such great chemistry together, because of their contrast and balance? So they're both edgy and broody now? No more of that awesome yin-yang thing they got going on. Now it's just yin? Or just yang? Well that sucks.

But besides that, is the series still worth reading? Is it part of the New 52 continuity or is it non-canon?

Yeah, Batman/Superman series is worth reading, first arc was pretty interesting, this new arc has just started, so hopefull it will get better after the trolling incident.

In New 52 Superman isn't broody, he's just, sort of cocky and annoying for some reason, he has a streak of arrogance.

#21 Posted by Divine_Disorder (107 posts) - - Show Bio


Yeah, Batman/Superman series is worth reading, first arc was pretty interesting, this new arc has just started, so hopefull it will get better after the trolling incident.

In New 52 Superman isn't broody, he's just, sort of cocky and annoying for some reason, he has a streak of arrogance.

Ah, okay. Will check it out. Thanks.

#22 Posted by consolemaster001 (5603 posts) - - Show Bio

For what i have read is the other way around, Batman gets less human so Clark hs to get there to make him relatable.

This thread make angry Superman fans to get here and attack Batman fans.

#23 Posted by Dayvid3 (807 posts) - - Show Bio

I think their scenes where they relate to each other as real individuals is very interesting. Mostly hearing their thoughts on each other or relating as actual people. Especially Batman, I'm not a big fan, but like him more at these times. Maybe because he's relating to someone he doesn't control, his butler, his robins, his enemies, his single sided thought monologues. In the group dynamic of JL it doesn't seem to come through so well, he's more his character than a person. We get more insight into Superman too, but I think that he's more emotionally accessible to us than bats (duh)

#24 Posted by RustyRoy (12769 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman can make anyone more interesting than they truly are :D

#25 Posted by TDK_1997 (14896 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is interesting on his own as well but along with Batman they are as you said 'the two sides of the same coin'.It is always to see the dynamic between them and what either of them can question themselves or each other.