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Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) 1 year, 3 months ago

Poll: do you hate hal Jordan because of the way he... (46 votes)

yes 17%
no 37%
i like both 46%

portrayed towards batman

#1 Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

or just because hes a douch

#2 Edited by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

or just because hes a douch

#3 Posted by batshrine (999 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by AweSam (7375 posts) - - Show Bio

They dislike him because he gets more attention than John Stewart.

#5 Posted by Xwraith (19356 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, he's a douchebag.

#6 Edited by Buckwild (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal does what he wants and says what he thinks. He's a real man not this generations water downed effeminate males.

#7 Posted by Akindoodle (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

or just because hes a douch

this

@awesam said:

They dislike him because he gets more attention than John Stewart.

and kinda this too

#8 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (25553 posts) - - Show Bio

I would not know, personally I'm a big Hal Jordan fan...

#9 Edited by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith:

ROFL where is this from? And I only don't like how he is in new 52 justice league. Polar oppistie to his solo

#10 Edited by Xwraith (19356 posts) - - Show Bio

@martyyy15: I don't know, I found it in the Green Arrow image gallery.

#11 Posted by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (25553 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13411 posts) - - Show Bio

i love Hal and Batman. im not a fan of how geoff Johns portrayed him in the early JL issues but for the most part, i love the guy. he only time he's really seemed like a douche to me is in New 52 GL and a few pre flashpoint things.

@xwraith said:

Yeah, he's a douchebag.

you see douchery, i see Karma for Olle's behavior toHal for the vast majority of their association

@awesam said:

They dislike him because he gets more attention than John Stewart.

this is undoubtedly the biggest reason people dislike Hal. he gets more attention than the other Lanterns

#15 Posted by SoA (4929 posts) - - Show Bio

i like every other green lantern over Hal.

#16 Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt: geting more attention is my reason for hating the douch bag i just made this thread because of the other one

#17 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33902 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13411 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt: geting more attention is my reason for hating the douch bag i just made this thread because of the other one

yeah, thats pretty obvious

#19 Posted by Wolverine08 (43672 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal is a douche. Nothing really complex about it. Just a douche.

#20 Posted by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous:

Ohh ok. I picked up JL starting with the Cheetah arc. Wasn't impressed with characterization during darksied arc at all. Honestly only one who was in character there was flash and slightly wonderwoman

#21 Edited by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13411 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal is a douche. Nothing really complex about it. Just a douche.

i'd disagree (not saying this version isnt a douche but id say he has his reasons)

#23 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't hate him but I like John alot more.

#24 Posted by Joygirl (20063 posts) - - Show Bio

No. I hate him for other reasons.

#25 Posted by BR_Havoc (1331 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess I am the opposite I love Hal think there is a lot more to his character than just his cocky attitude. I personally do not like John Stewart all that much his personality is kind of boring.

#26 Edited by martyyy15 (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl:

LOL what a shock we disagree on other stuff and it just happens you hate my fav character. Hahaha what a suprise XD

#27 Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe i shoudnt have gave the option of both...

#28 Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

there is another reason i dont like him........ HE IS THE BIGGEST (besides ironman) ASSH*** in comics

#29 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13411 posts) - - Show Bio

there is another reason i dont like him........ HE IS THE BIGGEST (besides ironman) ASSH*** in comics

what makes you feel that way

#30 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah I actually like Hal.

#31 Edited by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt: i dont know doc............ mabey its because hes exactly like ironman from what i can tell he acts high and mighty from people he should be think of it like this

:stark act like a douch towards banner even thoe the hulk has gotten them out of sitwation numorius time before

:hal acts like a douch towards batman even thoe batman has gotten them out of sitwations numerios times before

you see were im coming from? if you dont your as dumb as a nail or i am concidering my bad spelling...

#32 Posted by Night Thrasher (3698 posts) - - Show Bio

He's kinda douchey and I came in when Kyle was the man!

#33 Posted by lifeofvibe (3509 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13411 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt: i dont know doc............ mabey its because hes exactly like ironman from what i can tell he acts high and mighty from people he should be think of it like this

:stark act like a douch towards banner even thoe the hulk has gotten them out of sitwation numorius time before

:hal acts like a douch towards batman even thoe batman has gotten them out of sitwations numerios times before

what situations has Batman gotten Hal out of? Is this something that happened in the new 52 JL? because i honestly cant think of a situation. maybe one or two before flashpoint (Sinestro Corps War and Wanted:Hal Jordan) and he and Bruce were fine with each other.

you see were im coming from?

if you dont your as dumb as a nail or i am concidering my bad spelling...

ahhh, yes insults. always the way to get someone to respect your argument

#35 Edited by Pyrogram (40922 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he is a douchebag. Not my fav character ever but whatever. He is fun to read though.

#36 Posted by PopRock123 (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal is a douche at times but I don't hate him.

#37 Posted by sinestro_GL (3248 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal is the best!

Rebirth probably proves that point most for me :)

#38 Edited by ComicStooge (13377 posts) - - Show Bio

I like him.

#39 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_gl said:

Hal is the best!

Rebirth probably proves that point most for me :)

Rebirth has done more damage to Hal Jordan's character than anything else. Gary Stu himself says Hal was boring in Rebirth.

#40 Posted by TDK_1997 (14985 posts) - - Show Bio

Geoff Johns is writing him as the douchebag he is not.He is a little bit cocky but before he wasn't the douche he is now.Johns wants him to be the best there is and Hal to always point that out but it turns out just to be cockines.

#41 Posted by M3th (2099 posts) - - Show Bio

He just doesn't interest me. I think Kyle, John, or even Simon are more appealing to me than Hal. I actually wish he was more of a douche, it makes him more interesting.

#42 Posted by Xwraith (19356 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: I can't think of a bigger fanboy for a single character than Johns for Hal.

#43 Posted by TDK_1997 (14985 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith said:

@tdk_1997: I can't think of a bigger fanboy for a single character than Johns for Hal.

Exactly.I love Hal but at times he just irritates me and I hate Johns for that.

#44 Posted by The Stegman (25035 posts) - - Show Bio

Not gonna lie, he is a douche but he's not at like, Namor levels, so I still love him.

Plus him and Barry? comedic gold

#45 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't hate Hal. I always thought Hal and Bruce punching one another was a little silly...but whatever, I can live with it. I'm pretty ambivalent to the character.

Overall though, I much prefer the more mature yet still cocky Hal that we got post-Spectre in the pre-52 universe. It's like after all of his struggles and wars, he's a bit more level-headed now, but he still has that confidence.

New-52 Hal in JL has been a serious douche though. Save for that last part where he leaves the JL and shows some level of depth, most of it kinda has him coming across as comedic fodder and not very likeable.

#46 Edited by sinestro_GL (3248 posts) - - Show Bio

@fadetoblackbolt said:

@sinestro_gl said:

Hal is the best!

Rebirth probably proves that point most for me :)

Rebirth has done more damage to Hal Jordan's character than anything else. Gary Stu himself says Hal was boring in Rebirth.

I don't really care if Stu said Hal was boring in it. Both of you are entitled to be bored by whatever you want :)

However, I can't possibly see how Rebirth did anything bad to Hal's reputation.

Breaking free from Parallax's grip; punching Batman; teaming up with Guy, John and Kyle for the first time; defeating Parallax when it took host of Ganthet; that scene when Parallax demands Hal to fall, and Hal says "I don't know how"; not to mention it being a pre-cursor to all of Geoff Johns' 9-year-work on Green Lantern...all of these things have so much awesome that it can barely be contained in the pages of the comics.

Come to think of it, you saying that Rebirth was damaging to Hal makes you sound bitter for some reason that Hal is a popular character...that or you're confusing Rebirth for something else...or just trolling.

#47 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_gl: Not trolling, I'm just a DC fan.

Look at what Johns did in Rebirth. Johns took Hal Jordan from a flawed character who suffered a more than fair enough nervous breakdown, suffered for it, accepted it, and tried to atone and made him into a pure victim and then a self-righteous, arrogant jerkwad at that. Whether or not Parallax was controlling him 100% (it wasn't, especially since it was a ham-fisted, idiotic retcon), Hal Jordan almost committed cosmic genocide, but hey, it wasn't my fault, I'm going to be a d*ck and you should all bow down before me. The "I don't know how" line is a disgrace. Hal failed. Parallax took him over. It was a turning point for the character. Instead of that ridiculously stupid line, he should have said "Not again" or something like that. But nah, never acknowledge faults when you're a Johns favourite, because you were never ever the problem. It was the yellow insect thing.

And for the record, Johns' Green Lantern was total crap. Of course it's adored by people who've never read a GL comic before, or who are just dumb as sh*t, but it doesn't change the fact it consists largely of; HAL RULES. RETCON. EVERY COLOUR HAS A LANTERN. RETCON. ZOMBIES. RETCON. And drag that on for 10 years.

#48 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13411 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

I don't hate Hal. I always thought Hal and Bruce punching one another was a little silly...but whatever, I can live with it. I'm pretty ambivalent to the character.

Overall though, I much prefer the more mature yet still cocky Hal that we got post-Spectre in the pre-52 universe. It's like after all of his struggles and wars, he's a bit more level-headed now, but he still has that confidence.

New-52 Hal in JL has been a serious douche though. Save for that last part where he leaves the JL and shows some level of depth, most of it kinda has him coming across as comedic fodder and not very likeable.

Ht the nail on the head. i couldn't even bare to keep up with JL after the first issue. I would like to see a decent writer take on stories with them in it. Someone who handle comedy and action we the J.M Dematteis.

@fadetoblackbolt said:

@sinestro_gl said:

Hal is the best!

Rebirth probably proves that point most for me :)

Rebirth has done more damage to Hal Jordan's character than anything else. Gary Stu himself says Hal was boring in Rebirth.

I don't really care if Stu said Hal was boring in it. Both of you are entitled to be bored by whatever you want :)

However, I can't possibly see how Rebirth did anything bad to Hal's reputation.

Breaking free from Parallax's grip; punching Batman; teaming up with Guy, John and Kyle for the first time; defeating Parallax when it took host of Ganthet; that scene when Parallax demands Hal to fall, and Hal says "I don't know how"; not to mention it being a pre-cursor to all of Geoff Johns' 9-year-work on Green Lantern...all of these things have so much awesome that it can barely be contained in the pages of the comics.

Come to think of it, you saying that Rebirth was damaging to Hal makes you sound bitter for some reason that Hal is a popular character...that or you're confusing Rebirth for something else...or just trolling.

Fade isnt trolling. He has a point. from a creative standpoint, Johns removed a kit of depth from the character and nullified a great deal of epic/touching moments. He's also right about the Don Know How line

#49 Edited by entropy_aegis (15456 posts) - - Show Bio

Thing is even if I hated Hal it would still be an accomplishment,I just dont care he's bleh and IMO that worse than outright hatred.

#50 Posted by sinestro_GL (3248 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_gl: Not trolling, I'm just a DC fan.

Look at what Johns did in Rebirth. Johns took Hal Jordan from a flawed character who suffered a more than fair enough nervous breakdown, suffered for it, accepted it, and tried to atone and made him into a pure victim and then a self-righteous, arrogant jerkwad at that. Whether or not Parallax was controlling him 100% (it wasn't, especially since it was a ham-fisted, idiotic retcon), Hal Jordan almost committed cosmic genocide, but hey, it wasn't my fault, I'm going to be a d*ck and you should all bow down before me. The "I don't know how" line is a disgrace. Hal failed. Parallax took him over. It was a turning point for the character. Instead of that ridiculously stupid line, he should have said "Not again" or something like that. But nah, never acknowledge faults when you're a Johns favourite, because you were never ever the problem. It was the yellow insect thing.

I still don't see how Rebirth was bad for Hal...what you've described, if anything, is why Rebirth was bad writing, in your opinion.


And for the record, Johns' Green Lantern was total crap. Of course it's adored by people who've never read a GL comic before, or who are just dumb as sh*t, but it doesn't change the fact it consists largely of; HAL RULES. RETCON. EVERY COLOUR HAS A LANTERN. RETCON. ZOMBIES. RETCON. And drag that on for 10 years.

Firstly, if you didn't personally like Johns' Green Lantern, that doesn't give you the right to insult people who don't think the same as you. Self-righteousness and arrogance should be used to describe your post instead of Hal Jordan (as you did). I'm now sure that you are bitter that Rebirth put the spotlight back on Hal rather than the other lanterns.