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#101 Edited by drgnx (3513 posts) - - Show Bio

OMG, so I finally got around to see the cover for the issue...

This is not likely going to happen

DC be Trolling!

Come on, anyone remember

This was like the opposite of what happened, Saying the issue was Care-bear would not be an exaggeration
There was tying up but it wasn't Batman or Superman
I mean he put up a good fight, but it wasn't that bad a smack down!

#102 Posted by twitchy_tail (23 posts) - - Show Bio

1 though I don't think she will but considering the bane thing she could. I wouldn't be to upset ether way though because it'll make a good read regardless. :D

#103 Posted by Jayc1324 (5356 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even think she could beat dick Jason or Tim. I don't see any reason for them to fight though honestly, she's inspired by him

#104 Posted by PaperDemon (576 posts) - - Show Bio

3.

#105 Edited by vernierhawk001 (516 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with "over 9000". If I'm not mistaken, Batwoman has military training and some form of martial arts. Batman is a master of several styles. In addition, his tactical mind is supposed to be nearly second to none. I think sometimes we forget that Batman is supposed to be a picture of someone dedicating their life to fighting crime. He spent years mastering several forms and travelling the world to obtain this. There is no one in the Batclan who should be able to stand against him right now. Dick Grayson is my fave character but he hasn't shown the ability to do it right now and, if the guy who has trained beside him for years can't do it, I don't think any of the clan should be able to. Plus, she's an outsider who copied his suit. I don't have a problem with her character but it does really irk me that she "took his symbol" but is so far removed from the family. Back in the day, being a Bat used to mean something. Now apparently anyone with a couple years of martial arts training can do it

#106 Posted by MuyJingo (1358 posts) - - Show Bio

For the people saying Batman is off his game, that isn't true. Emotionally disturbed Batman is generally more dangerous/on-the-ball than normal, stable Batman.

#107 Posted by RustyRoy (9241 posts) - - Show Bio

@muyjingo said:

For the people saying Batman is off his game, that isn't true. Emotionally disturbed Batman is generally more dangerous/on-the-ball than normal, stable Batman.

Agreed.

#108 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (4929 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman had the edge in the fight.....but he still should of murder stomped her.

#109 Edited by QueenCorp15 (987 posts) - - Show Bio

The only person in the bat family that can take down batman would be Dick Grayson

#110 Posted by RustyRoy (9241 posts) - - Show Bio

The only person in the bat family that can take down batman would be Dick Grayson

Not even Dick can take him down.

#111 Posted by Omnicrono (978 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: sorry, got a little ahead of myself. Cass could beat him but it's not certain. I mean, she did beat Lady Shiva twice when even Batman probably couldn't. She's a greater fighter than Bruce. But then again there's a bunch of other factors which give Batman the edge.

Wait - are you saying Shiva's a greater fighter than Bruce, or Batwoman is? If the latter, no. Just no.

#112 Posted by RustyRoy (9241 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmannflash said:

@jayc1324: sorry, got a little ahead of myself. Cass could beat him but it's not certain. I mean, she did beat Lady Shiva twice when even Batman probably couldn't. She's a greater fighter than Bruce. But then again there's a bunch of other factors which give Batman the edge.

Wait - are you saying Shiva's a greater fighter than Bruce, or Batwoman is? If the latter, no. Just no.

He possibly meant Cass or Shiva, I'm definitely sure he didn't meant Kate.

#113 Posted by Omnicrono (978 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy: Oh, okay. That makes more sense. :)

#114 Posted by batmannflash (6109 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

@omnicrono said:

@batmannflash said:

@jayc1324: sorry, got a little ahead of myself. Cass could beat him but it's not certain. I mean, she did beat Lady Shiva twice when even Batman probably couldn't. She's a greater fighter than Bruce. But then again there's a bunch of other factors which give Batman the edge.

Wait - are you saying Shiva's a greater fighter than Bruce, or Batwoman is? If the latter, no. Just no.

He possibly meant Cass or Shiva, I'm definitely sure he didn't meant Kate.

I was talking about Cass.

#115 Posted by Mark_Stephen (5 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not as worried about her beating him as I am about the damage already done to the character. She's had a hand in letting the Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy, the Riddler, the Tweedles and Bane loose on Gotham and any deaths that come from that can be partially laid at her door. And suppose one of the bad guys gets lucky and kills Dick, Barbara or any of the others? Barbara gave her the benifit of the doubt when they last met as did Diana, I don't think that'll happen again. She's put lives at risk and has subjected a city to terror, that's not heroism to me. She's using every dirty trick she can to free her sister, but is her sister worth the lives of the innocents who might be killed?

If this doesn't resolve well I'm not going to look at this character again for years.

#116 Posted by Mark_Stephen (5 posts) - - Show Bio

As an afterthought I don't think this as much of a surprise to Batman as everyone says. He specifically ask Bone's "Where is Batwoman?"

#117 Posted by ghinzdra (20 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmannflash: pretty much this.

CassCain is almost meta. She wouldn't be able to perform his many duties as batman but in a straight fight she has the edge.

As for night wing it s not completely far fetched but still they better have a good damn explanation...He s more agile but I feel that batman is able to tap into his angst to be meaner and more aggressive in a fight. He's obsessed which makes him a a more knowledgeable martial art student (but a worse leader)

All the others should get trashed by batman. Damian is a killer and he's his son so he might have a shot but I think he s too young in general.

#118 Posted by Primebonnick (1083 posts) - - Show Bio

if its written properly i will not complain he ain't invincible. Heck in pre 52 he took down supes on some occasions

#119 Edited by theamazingbatman (1470 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Over 9000! I don't mind him getting beat, but not by and batgirls or robins or batwoman or anyone that was inspired by him or wouldn't exist without him. The only one I might possibly accept beating him is nightwing. Also he is superior in physicals, fighting ability, tactics, equipment...

Only way it would be okay is if batman loses his mind or something

LOL

I completely agree but I won't even accept nightwing beating batman . And btw Batman 1 million has been inspired by bruce wayne and he 1-shooted bruce :P How did you feel???

#120 Edited by Jayc1324 (5356 posts) - - Show Bio

@theamazingbatman: I wouldn't accept Nightwing beating Batman either now that I think about it. When they fought before Nightwing literally couldn't even touch him.

Haha I was okay with that since technically he is still a batman (and a better one at that) and batman one million was so badass. He's the warden of an entire planet of criminals all by himself!

#121 Posted by theamazingbatman (1470 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@theamazingbatman: I wouldn't accept Nightwing beating Batman either now that I think about it. When they fought before Nightwing literally couldn't even touch him.

Haha I was okay with that since technically he is still a batman (and a better one at that) and batman one million was so badass. He's the warden of an entire planet of criminals all by himself!

LOL but bruce wayne is the original batman .

I kind of feel sorry for batman in comics . There millions of superheroes who are more useful and stronger than him . He is just a weakling compared to other characters . All he does is save the corrupt gotham :P

#122 Posted by Bezza (2170 posts) - - Show Bio

..Nightwing wont ever beat Batman, but it should surely at least be a decent fight, what he lacks in all round martial arts expertise compared with Bruce he makes up for to some extent, with his supreme agility and acrobatics, not that I am saying Bats is a slouch...