@goldenavenger: there are no useless Avengers. The recent massive roster is somewhat misleading but the Avengers are a group of smaller power heroes and one powerhouse to combine to beat a powerhouse villain. Its always been that way. Many people though just think that if you place the seven most powerful people that were ever Avengers (or any other team) you would have the best team. Its hardly the case
@maccyd It was just before Thor get free and Captain Universe interfere. Also that was a very specific situation where his ability to talk to animals was useful.
@goldenavenger: Other than that, it's the same as Aquaman's ability to talk to fish, they're the ultimate scouts, there's lots of them and they're everywhere.
@goldenavenger: there are no useless Avengers. The recent massive roster is somewhat misleading but the Avengers are a group of smaller power heroes and one powerhouse to combine to beat a powerhouse villain. Its always been that way. Many people though just think that if you place the seven most powerful people that were ever Avengers (or any other team) you would have the best team. Its hardly the case
Depending on the line-up, some characters do actually become pretty useless. I thought Luke Cage was pretty useless as a New Avenger. He was one of the worst leaders to date, in fact he was so bad he didn't even know he was leading until Clint said something about it. Also, while we're talking about Clint, he was pretty useless as Ronin. What made Hawkeye a vaulable street leveler was always his trick arrows but if you take that away from him he really only provides and extra body. Wolverine, Iron Fist, Cap & Echo provided everything you were going to get from Clint at that point. Then there is Falcon. Falcon is pretty easy to hide on a good roster. You take Janet out of the original line-up and replace her with Falcon, you basically have to reach to now find some usefulness for him. That's why he's kept off of most rosters that aren't huge or he's listed as "reserves" because he doesn't provide much to the team. There's also guys like Triathlon\3D Man, there's Daredevil, Stingray, alot of characters that aren't really useless but when you put them on a team with so many powerful members it's hard to create a scenario where they all provide something to their success.
There are no useless members just bad writers. But if I had to pick one Jessica Jones, her power complaining about everything I feel sorry for the X-men having to deal with her soon.
There are no useless members just bad writers. But if I had to pick one Jessica Jones, her power complaining about everything I feel sorry for the X-men having to deal with her soon.
This isn't true. You have any idea how had it is to come up with a threat where the most powerful members and the weakest members are all factors in the success of the team? There really isn't much certain characters can do in many instances. Jessica Jones isn't useless she simply wasn't on the team for most of the time she was around, she's trying to raise a child and unlike most superheroes she's actually doing a half decent job of it.
@vance_astro: Than a writer should give himself time to write a plausible threat for all members or just use half of the members and the other half for the other. For instance Black Panther, Captain America and Hawkeye went off to take on Hydra while The original members took on the Kree Sentry. I'm referring to EMH. Sorry I still stand by my statement Jones should have just kept herself away from the danger like live with her mother than banger everyone and point the obvious.
@vance_astro: Than a writer should give himself time to write a plausible threat for all members or just use half of the members and the other half for the other. For instance Black Panther, Captain America and Hawkeye went off to take on Hydra while The original members took on the Kree Sentry. I'm referring to EMH. Sorry I still stand by my statement Jones should have just kept herself away from the danger like live with her mother than banger everyone and point the obvious.
It's not about time, it's about the versatility and variety of all of their powers. There are also members who have THE SAME powers which but at varying to degrees making one of them alot more useful than the other.
Sorry I still stand by my statement Jones should have just kept herself away from the danger like live with her mother than banger everyone and point the obvious.
The flaw in your statement is for most of the time we saw Jessica around the Avengers she wasn't a member. She didn't officially become a "New Avenger" until the Heroic Age.
Hawkeye was definitely the most useless in the movie
More useless than Black Widow?
not saying she was the patron saint of fighting but yeah I think he was a bit more useless, not only did he get turned over to the "darkside" (which presumably any of them could have) but at least she was on the ground fighting with cap and she closed the portal with loki's staff, which was only after erik told her, but I think she contributed more, I mean how many arrows did hawkeye have? Maybe 50?
Who knows perhaps they were as useless as each other :P
not saying she was the patron saint of fighting but yeah I think he was a bit more useless, not only did he get turned over to the "darkside" (which presumably any of them could have) but at least she was on the ground fighting with cap and she closed the portal with loki's staff, which was only after erik told her, but I think she contributed more, I mean how many arrows did hawkeye have? Maybe 50?
Who knows perhaps they were as useless as each other :P
Technically he was useful to Loki. He did drop the Helicarrier with 1 arrow, but yes I would agree Hawkeye & Black Widow were both pretty useless in the film.
not saying she was the patron saint of fighting but yeah I think he was a bit more useless, not only did he get turned over to the "darkside" (which presumably any of them could have) but at least she was on the ground fighting with cap and she closed the portal with loki's staff, which was only after erik told her, but I think she contributed more, I mean how many arrows did hawkeye have? Maybe 50?
Who knows perhaps they were as useless as each other :P
Technically he was useful to Loki. He did drop the Helicarrier with 1 arrow, but yes I would agree Hawkeye & Black Widow were both pretty useless in the film.
Ha yes he was, but I think in the context of useful avenger I don't think useful Loki henchman will cut it haha Though that is pretty impressive, or maybe a major design flaw. Hopefully they will do better in the next films! :)
Hawkeye and Black Widow are always pretty useless in the respect that they are LESS USEFUL than many alternatives like Miss/Captain Marvel, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, US Agent, Agent Venom, Hyperion, She-Hulk, Hercules, Ares, Black Panther, and many others.
In the movie Hawkeye was almost pointless for me.He served me no entertaining or any purpose to be part of the movie or the roster.
As in the comic books it has always been Falcon.He never seemed as a good hero to say first and he never seemed as a good addition to the team.He is one of the most pointless characters I've ever seen and I don't know why he gets used so frequently.
@vance_astro: Than a writer should give himself time to write a plausible threat for all members or just use half of the members and the other half for the other. For instance Black Panther, Captain America and Hawkeye went off to take on Hydra while The original members took on the Kree Sentry. I'm referring to EMH. Sorry I still stand by my statement Jones should have just kept herself away from the danger like live with her mother than banger everyone and point the obvious.
It's not about time, it's about the versatility and variety of all of their powers. There are also members who have THE SAME powers which but at varying to degrees making one of them alot more useful than the other.
Sorry I still stand by my statement Jones should have just kept herself away from the danger like live with her mother than banger everyone and point the obvious.
The flaw in your statement is for most of the time we saw Jessica around the Avengers she wasn't a member. She didn't officially become a "New Avenger" until the Heroic Age.
Than I guess will have to agree to disagree than.
As to useless member, Wolverine and Widow. The Avengers already have members willing to get their hands dirty if necessary so in other words they are redundant. Wolverine is better served in the X-men being their anti hero and Widow is better off working at SHIELD sticking to spy related business only.
Hawkeye had no purpose in the movie but has purpose in the comics and for all the people who are saying Falcon, just wait until the Winter Soldier comes out.
In the movie Hawkeye was almost pointless for me.He served me no entertaining or any purpose to be part of the movie or the roster.
As in the comic books it has always been Falcon.He never seemed as a good hero to say first and he never seemed as a good addition to the team.He is one of the most pointless characters I've ever seen and I don't know why he gets used so frequently.
I will go with Hawkeye and Falcon. Those are the most useless characters in the Avengers movie, but on comic they look the best. I liked Hawkeye when he was joining the Thunderbolts as a leader. He should leave Avengers and become the leader of the Thunderbolts once again. That would be AWESOME.
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