wacom tablets

" @tonis said:

" they should just lock this thread or better yet delete it to someplace like the negative zone. Then someone could put up an actual REAL thread related to tablets and their practical implementation in the art community. "

Why would you do that?!? So you can put tablets on a pedestal as if they're gods or something? They sucks I tells ya!  They sucks their complexities to hell! Hehehe! I usually don't troll but sometimes I just can't help it.. I apologize if I make the points you guys want to deliver look bad... I just... I want to be immature from time to time.. :p "

"pretty damn good with it! "
 
I want to be like this one day....

" "pretty damn good with it! "  I want to be like this one day.... "

" @Om1kron: that was to tonis not to you about hearsay. I don't know why you are jumping form a intuso, bamboo to a cintiq when they were two different discussions. As for knowedge it was on how the cintiq works literally not on whether you've used it or not which you don't know it works. I on the other hand told you on how the touch screen works and how it could be modified for artists. If it were a bunch of nonsense than why would you be getting upset.  Anyway this is coming from a guy go said a bamboo and intuso were good enough for artist which they are not. "

 
@emptytomb said:

" @Om1kron: that was to tonis not to you about hearsay. I don't know why you are jumping form a intuso, bamboo to a cintiq when they were two different discussions. As for knowedge it was on how the cintiq works literally not on whether you've used it or not which you don't know it works. I on the other hand told you on how the touch screen works and how it could be modified for artists. If it were a bunch of nonsense than why would you be getting upset.  Anyway this is coming from a guy who said a bamboo and intuso were good enough for artist which they are not. "

"@DavidR: yeah but I bet he spent more time and effort drawing on it than he would with a pencil.  "

" @DavidR:
@emptytomb said:

"@DavidR: yeah but I bet he spent more time and effort drawing on it than he would with a pencil.  "

 I wrote that in a pervious comment. I'm sure you took a longer time to create this than you would with a pencil. It probably required my effort also even if you praticed alot on your wacom tablet you would painstaking and slowly create what you would with a pencil just like anyone else. Keep trying to learn how to use it than maybe you can create more drawings with it as you claim you will. "

Wrooong, when I posted this last night I was in the middle of my Batman project and didn't have much time to draw, 
 
Draw more not just one.

" @DavidR said:

Wrooong, when I posted this last night I was in the middle of my Batman project and didn't have much time to draw, 
 
Draw more not just one.

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did anyone think that the mods may actually be enjoying this thread?
[no offense meant to the mods]

" did anyone think that the mods may actually be enjoying this thread? [no offense meant to the mods] "

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By the way can you not spell? It's Intous, not intuso. If you can't get even the name right, you think we are going to believe your silly facts and points of view?  "

I heard the iPad worked just as good... Is this true?

" @DavidR said:

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By the way can you not spell? It's Intous, not intuso. If you can't get even the name right, you think we are going to believe your silly facts and points of view?  "

Ha! Your lack of knowledge for the INTUSO just shows your ignorance and therefore makes all your arguments invalid! INTUSO is a china-imitation of INTUOS! Ha! Take that troll!
 

I'm trolling again.. My apologies... :p "

@sora_thekey

" I heard the iPad worked just as good... Is this true? "

" @DavidR: Sadly, because I don't have that kind of money, the iPad is my best bet. If anyone wants to give me a Wacom tablet as a gift... I won't say no! =P "

" @tonis:   On Amazon I read some reviews by artists and they love it. It's very pen friendly. Win7 not known for it's accurate touch being as good as iPad but great for a pen! Being that Asus worked with Wacom and the pen is a Wacom digitizer pen, the results are what you get from one of their Tablets, plus iPad has no pressure sensitivity from what I understand but the Asus Slate (tablet) does. "

" @emptytomb said:

" @DavidR said:

Wrooong, when I posted this last night I was in the middle of my Batman project and didn't have much time to draw, 
 
Draw more not just one.

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Of course I will, but point is that it does what its supposed to. Anyways, It's a dead end here so I'm done. I proved what you said it didn't do. Whether it's one or more it's done by many others artists and even myself. "

 
extactly what did you prove. That you drew inspite of what I said taking 20 minutes to draw a simple pose of the Skrulls. They are just standing there. I don't believe you should draw and post it on here inspite of what I said but that you should do it because you liked to draw on it. How long have you had a digital tablet and still haven't learned how to use it. Know maybe you can stop doing penciled drawing and use the tablet to do instead esp. for your contests. Read all my post carefully. U. So keep on posting nonsense and putting words in my mouth I didn't say.  Until someone puts a actual response that makes sense I won't respond. I'll try not to respond. To anyone else read what I've posted because I won't keep on repeating myself.

" @DavidR said:

" @emptytomb said:

" @DavidR said:

Wrooong, when I posted this last night I was in the middle of my Batman project and didn't have much time to draw, 
 
Draw more not just one.

"

Of course I will, but point is that it does what its supposed to. Anyways, It's a dead end here so I'm done. I proved what you said it didn't do. Whether it's one or more it's done by many others artists and even myself. "

 
extactly what did you prove. That you drew inspite of what I said taking 20 minutes to draw a simple pose of the Skrulls. They are just standing there. I don't believe you should draw and post it on here inspite of what I said but that you should do it because you liked to draw on it. How long have you had a digital tablet and still haven't learned how to use it. Know maybe you can stop doing penciled drawing and use the tablet to do instead esp. for your contests. Read all my post carefully. U. So keep on posting nonsense and putting words in my mouth I didn't say.  Until someone puts a actual response that makes sense I won't respond. I'll try not to respond. To anyone else read what I've posted because I won't keep on repeating myself.

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" @tonis: than why do you keep spamming/trolling this thread. Don't read what you don't like whose forcing you to read it. "

" I'm not doing anything of the sort. I only chime in when somethings worth chiming in about and for the most part, I don't read what I don't like.Also don't ignore those who say something of actual knowledge either ;) maybe someday you'll be one of those if you ever have that moment of realization, been seriously doubting it though the more I see you spout.  If one good thing came out of this thread, I am probably gonna get a new Asus pad soon to play with , thanks Robert :) "

" @DavidR said:

" @emptytomb said:

" @DavidR said:

Wrooong, when I posted this last night I was in the middle of my Batman project and didn't have much time to draw, 
 
Draw more not just one.

"

Of course I will, but point is that it does what its supposed to. Anyways, It's a dead end here so I'm done. I proved what you said it didn't do. Whether it's one or more it's done by many others artists and even myself. "

 
extactly what did you prove. That you drew inspite of what I said taking 20 minutes to draw a simple pose of the Skrulls. They are just standing there. I don't believe you should draw and post it on here inspite of what I said but that you should do it because you liked to draw on it. How long have you had a digital tablet and still haven't learned how to use it. Know maybe you can stop doing penciled drawing and use the tablet to do instead esp. for your contests. Read all my post carefully. U. So keep on posting nonsense and putting words in my mouth I didn't say.  Until someone puts a actual response that makes sense I won't respond. I'll try not to respond. To anyone else read what I've posted because I won't keep on repeating myself.

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DavidR

Tonis.

" @emptytomb said:
I didn't 'babble' it was the best, you clearly don't hear what people are saying but rather fill in your own blanks. So I kinda don't really need to say it any clearer. You don't see drawings in my art cause as I've always stated, I'm a 3d artist. Which you probably don't consider an art either. Boo hoo for me I suppose, that I can't be in your club ;) You seem to think that only a penciler can use a tablet, which is also absurdly off. I didn't get one because I wanted to draw, I got one because I was doing massive amounts of photo restorations and video frame editing. And YES, a tablet helped TREMENDOUSLY in saving time, supplies, and sanity. Especially for the features and functions you seem to think are useless. You don't have to believe I've been on photoshop for as long as I claim, if I was full of it it'd show in my work. I have worked with many artists however who do use it for drawing, and none have ever felt it was a bad move including it into their skill sets. Feel free to write a review on anything you want my friend, but if you say stupid shit that's totally inaccurate it's gonna go a lot like this. "

@tonis

" @emptytomb said:

 

lol, I'm not saying I know more than you, it's just appearing to be that way ;) I seriously encourage ANY REAL ARTIST who agrees with these 'facts' of yours to come on down and help prove your point. Cause as it stands, real artists have come in here and you aren't listening to them anymore than me ;) You make assumptions, and stats that don't match. You couldn't say how many in the comic field use this or that, you don't honestly know. You're pulling it all out of your ass and it kinda shows in these idiotic statements.  Not to be insulting, cause I don't believe in it, but you're so wrong here about pretty much EVERYTHING you claim. Thinking I'm angry cause a tablet isn't a pencil, lol, I'm not naive enough to expect it to be. You seem to think it's black or white, that you're either a REAL artist who uses pencils, or a FAKE one who doesn't. It kinda shows just how little clue you've managed to get so far in the field. Almost EVERYTHING published these days goes through the digital ringer at some point in it's creation, be it the lines, or whatever. And people manage it all without being babies about who's doing it this way or that.  I'll reiterate my previous sentiment. A REAL artist works with any tools they have at their disposal that they are comfortable with. You're either not comfortable with it, or you're not a REAL artist, which is it? " 
  
 

 @emptytomb: I have penciled drawings in my images because I've had to reupload pictures for a contest I was hosting. Those works are the contestants, I never said I draw buddy, I'm pretty clear about what I do. 

When you actually go into a category and not look at ALL my images, you're only gonna see 3d work. That's the area I work in and spend my time practicing. 
 
I'm feeling like this dead horse is pretty beat at this point, and since I'm more interested in just making sure others know your advice is moot and I don't really care about convincing or converting you to anything I think the jist has been accomplished. 
 
you keep arguing over how this is better than that, or how artists can't accomplish what some on here have with pencils AND tablets. The real artists are gonna keep drawing with whatever they got and keep proving you wrong ;) 
 
This isn't even close to a review, much less in depth. It's you ranting about your personal opinions that NO ONE here seems to agree that actually uses the device your talking about. 
You have no clue about the benefits of the features, and apparently even LESS clue about what professionals do with it across the board. You certainly couldn't give me a criticism about photo restoration or any other aspect of digital imaging and what it takes cause you got no idea what I do or what you're talking about. You should seriously stop some day, take a breath, and realize you're missing a LOT of what's going on around you by ASSUMING you know it all. 
 
If alls you wanna do is talk about FLAT penciled art and how you'd like to always see it done then write a thread about that, don't wrap it in a fake review of tablets and then not even talk about what they offer but instead spout off about how you hate everything about them and that no one can make a decent picture with them. You actually insult everyone who does make killer pictures with them on here and some have shown you truly great tablet work. 
 
I don't honestly care how an artist gets to his final, only that it produce something that I can appreciate for the art it is, not how it was made. 

 
 

" those quotes contradict the statament you've made. What works the 3d works that seem dull and uninteresting. Some people should actually question if your comments and compliment to them are serious or just comments to stay on the top of the posters page in artistshowoff. Anyway even 3d artists draw what they will create unless copying a photograph/still life.  If you don't draw you don't/wouldn't know if what I was saying were correct/not. Which you don't. "

You haven't been here a year  but you've passed sorathekey on the top poster page. Don't think I didn't notice you kept commenting on other people's thread everytime I uploaded an image so that the threads I posted in could be pushed down on the forums. I've already challenged you but you've backed down about photo enchancement. Put your words where your mouth stands.
 
 

@tonis:
   

" You haven't been here a year  but you've passed sorathekey on the top poster page. Don't think I didn't notice you kept commenting on other people's thread everytime I uploaded an image so that the threads I posted in could be pushed down on the forums. I've already challenged you but you've backed down about photo enchancement. Put your words where your mouth stands. "

=o everyone else. Nothing is better, easier, quicker, percise,effective, comfortable than drawing with pencil, paper. You will never get the same results while drawing with something else esp. with a digital tablet. You actually need to guide your hand and pencil with your eyes. Drawing on a digital tablet is like driving a car with your head sticking out of the roof and never being allowed to put your head back in until you get out. Their will be some people who like drawing abstract, simple, cartoonish drawings and not improving which a digital tablet is good for them but if you want to take art to a serious level their is no point in using a digital tablet to draw. A digital tablet is good for coloring a piece already drawn and scanned. Artist like DavidR already know this but for some reason they want to mislead people into believing that a digital tablet can do the same thing a pencil and paper can do.     Next time to any of you don't try to answer a question I ask another person.  "