is aquaman a rip off Of namor?

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#52  Edited By Blackdog2009

@jack_vii: yea 'Submariner' is so groundbreaking . Give me a break. Love both characters but AQ is a the better of the two.

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#53  Edited By M3th

Again, back then... "Namor, Marvel's Aquaman... Namor is Marvel's answer for Aquaman... If it wasn't for Aquaman and Flash, Namor and Quicksilver would never exist... Namor is just another ripoff."

NOW!

Well um... Aquaman is more popular so he's not a ripoff... Um... did you know mermaids existed... soo um... that means they're both ripoffs...

Still if it wasn't for Aquaman, Namor would be long gone so he's not a ripoff...

Um... ahhh He's more of an improvement."

Yeah yeah yeah... argue the technicalities all YOU want.

Namor was created first simple as that so eat it.

-m3th.O.D.-

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Namor was one of the first comic book superheroes to be created, only a year or two after superman himself. To say he is a rip off of aqua man is just nonsense, especially after dc gave the new 52 aqua man behavior that basically mirrored namor's

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@braedenalberti: First of all Aquaman acts nothing like Namor nor does he look like him and second of all neither was the the first king of the seas style superhero

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@jonny_anonymous: well, from what I've seen, Namor has always been a difficult, hard nosed king of Atlantis for quite a while whereas aquaman was at the top of the lamest superhero list being all jolly and talking to clownfish until dc took notes and gave aquaman the tough guy treatment as well.

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#59  Edited By joshmightbe

@braedenalberti: Umm, Namor had no idea of his Atlantean heritage until years after he first showed up. When he started he was basically an eco terrorist who occasionally did good things when it suited him.

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All in saying is that DC tends to change their characters' origins a lot and this newest version of aquaman reminds me a lot of Namor.

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#61  Edited By BlackWind

How? Aquaman isn't a snob who throws a tantrum and his weight around when people look at him funny.

Even the 90s Aquaman who people love to try and compare to Namor was different. All they saw was "Oh hey, they tried to make Aquaman tough. Must be copying Namor." When in reality Arthur was depressed and lonely throughout most of that era and the anger stemmed from it.

Aquaman is like a minority: People find any reason to try and keep him down. And even if he was a ripoff, guess what? The rip off is doing so much better than the original.

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The funny thing isn't Aquaman more famous than Namor solely for his Superfriends appearance in the 1960s. The interesting thing about Namor was that he was one of the first anti-heroes (unless we count the original Batman) and does have his place in comics early history. Yes, Aquaman is a rip-off of Namor but Namor is basically a underwater version of Conan/Tarzan. So that's that.

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#63  Edited By Heatblaze

@jonny_anonymous: May I ask who was the first? Or at least give me a character that predates both of them with the ''king of the sea'' superhero theme.

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#66  Edited By Endanger

@braedenalberti said:

@jonny_anonymous: well, from what I've seen, Namor has always been a difficult, hard nosed king of Atlantis for quite a while whereas aquaman was at the top of the lamest superhero list being all jolly and talking to clownfish until dc took notes and gave aquaman the tough guy treatment as well

Aquaman, while being the lamest Superhero, STILL has more and better stories than Namor.

Aquaman has at least classic stories like The Trench, Death of a Prince, Throne of Atlantis, in which most comic book readers know about.

Namor, doesn't have one single famous story attached to him. Maybe The Depths...maybe.

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@endanger: Have you even read the New Avengers? Or even post Civil War? Namor is about the same league

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@endanger: Have you even read the New Avengers? Or even post Civil War? Namor is about the same league

Last time I checked, New Avengers is not a Namor solo book is it? Unless New Avengers stars Namor and HIS supporting cast, it doesn't count.

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It's not like king of Atlantis is a super original idea anyway.

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@endanger: ok what about Namor breaking an iceberg that led to the discovery that Captain America is still alive? It was in his own book.

Plus you said famous stories attached to him.

New avengers and Initiative submariner are famously attach to him.

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Even if he was a rip off, look where Aquaman is, and look where Namor is.

Aquaman has been blowing up for a while. Namor is still obscure as hell as Marvel hasn't given him a solo title in years.

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Yeah Aquaman is a ripoff. Aquaman SUCKS, get over it!

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#73  Edited By BlackWind

@arranvid: Let me know when Marvel starts actually paying attention to Namor and one of his books lasts this time.

I.e., never.

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@blackwind: Doesn't matter, Aquaman is still a ripoff. Namor forever.

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I like Arthur WAY better but 2 downplay namor's important as a character is wrong he was the first comicbook character 2 fly & the first anti hero plus his look is crazy iconic spock black adam all have been influence by him [look wise] plus he and the human torch [android] were apart of the first comic book crossover

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Eh, who cares. Aquaman is a better character.

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i think both are copies of poseidon

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Neither are completely original. Both are at least slightly ripped off of Poseidon.

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Mermaids and mermen are cited in various mythologies across the world, then it means that both are ripoffs ?

Don't forget the exiled children, or children of exiles from lost civilizations. Those go back to at least the old testament.

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@matchesmalone21 said:

Mermaids and mermen are cited in various mythologies across the world, then it means that both are ripoffs ?

Don't forget the exiled children, or children of exiles from lost civilizations. Those go back to at least the old testament.

Exactly!!