#1 Posted by DaAwesome2 (266 posts) - - Show Bio

Referring to people who primarily reside on Earth

Also no matter manipulation, transmuting, magnetism or any of that.

Only physical force or destructive energy..ie..heat vision, lightning, lasers, fire, freezing, concussive force beams, and the like.

#2 Edited by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman because he can lift planets

and also green lantern because his constructs are durable enough to support the weight of the planet

I guess adamantium cannot support the weight of a planet

I guess adamantium can't do that

#3 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm....in New Avengers 2(??), Reynolds busts through nine floors of steel lines adamantium. That was the Raft prison, though.

Is that primary adamantium? Anyone validate?

#4 Posted by MonsterStomp (13149 posts) - - Show Bio

@daawesome2: How thick is it? As thin as a micrometer or as thick as 100 feet?

I think the Flash could break it via vibration or IMP.

#5 Posted by ssejllenrad (12780 posts) - - Show Bio

With enough Loebforce, Rulk!

#6 Posted by Shawnbaby (9320 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman because he can lift planets

and also green lantern because his constructs are durable enough to support the weight of the planet

I guess adamantium cannot support the weight of a planet

I guess adamantium can't do that

Actually...if you could actually get enough Adamantium to make a claw that big...it probably could do the same thing. Also, When it comes to moving Planets "weight" is a meaningless concept. It's all about Mass.

#7 Posted by dondave (26783 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel Girl

#8 Edited by Killemall (16963 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk has done it. King Thor melted it. So it goes both ways.

Actually...if you could actually get enough Adamantium to make a claw that big...it probably could do the same thing. Also, When it comes to moving Planets "weight" is a meaningless concept. It's all about Mass.

The biggest consideration while moving a planet is actually gravity and the size of the planet and most importantly the distant from its star.

The force, at least in science is calculated as

F = (G*m1*m2)/ (r squared)

You essentially need a force greated that F to move it.

And given how mass of the star is always going to drawf a planet, its the mass of the star that becomes more relevant, as well as r (distance between them measure in meter)

But thats IF they follow science, dont think comics actually do.

#9 Edited by AngryHulks (2966 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman with sufficient sundip, by strength or heat vision.

Hulk with sufficient rage.

Silver Surfer's planet busting blast should be able to do a work.

King Thor's eye blast should do.

Sentry??

#10 Posted by God_Spawn (35982 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

Hulk has done it."

A handful of characters "have" done it. Too bad Hulk can't do it anymore.

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#11 Edited by AngryHulks (2966 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall:

Hulk has done it."

A handful of characters "have" done it. Too bad Hulk can't do it anymore.

I thought Hulk never done it, if I remembered correctly, they retcon the Adamantium in question to secondary Adamantium.

#12 Posted by God_Spawn (35982 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryhulks: That's why I put have in quotation marks. Once upon he was able to. Hell, even Wonder Man crushed Ultron's adamantium head. The only other instance people might bring is the artist mistake in Jason Aaron's Hulk run when he made Wolverine stab himself in the forehead.

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#13 Posted by Killemall (16963 posts) - - Show Bio


I thought Hulk never done it, if I remembered correctly, they retcon the Adamantium in question to secondary Adamantium.

It was called pure adamantium, that also 10 tons later, rather than primary or secondly.

A handful of characters "have" done it. Too bad Hulk can't do it anymore.

Given how he is currently being written he probably could do that again. He recently absolutely stomped a Shield version of Hulk buster that was totally stomping Iron Man, tanked a blast said to be hot enough to melt adamantium, and his worthy part is yet to be retconned.

Hulk after Avengers movie has appeared a lot stronger than before, although the instance in question, breakin the adamantium was mindless hulk.

#14 Posted by Killemall (16963 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryhulks: That's why I put have in quotation marks. Once upon he was able to. Hell, even Wonder Man crushed Ultron's adamantium head. The only other instance people might bring is the artist mistake in Jason Aaron's Hulk run when he made Wolverine stab himself in the forehead.

Do you have an issue number for this?

Just asking because there is a very similar instance during Avengers Ultron Unlimited (not 100% on what exact issue number is, i only have the TPB collection) where Wonder Man does exactly that, crush Ultron's head. It was later revealed that it wasnt made out of adamantium and Ultron was using older models against him. Thor was also capable of doing so.

When they faced the actual ultron who was full adamantium, they strategy was drop Ultron around as long as they can, hoping something non-adamantium inside him would break. But they finally had to resort to PIS at the end: anti-metal vibranium.

Coz its either that or you are referring to a very old issue, likely retconned man. I have been a huge fan of Ultron as of late so just defending my character :p

#15 Edited by God_Spawn (35982 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Which that scan was retconned. The scan right now is irrelevant. Same as when he cracked Ultron. Retconned to 2nd. Same as Wonder Man breaking Ultron's head. Retconned. And no, he did not tank a blast that "melted" adamantium. He tanked a blast that helped mold secondary adamantium. Why? Because Ultron's ady was retconned to secondary. That's why secondary adamantium was created, to give true adamantium its status back. The only legit one I know of off the top of my head was King Thor melting Wolverine and that he had the Odin power to do so.

So no, Hulk cannot break it. He's too weak.

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#16 Edited by Killemall (16963 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Which that scan was retconned. The scan right now is irrelevant.

When was it reconned, just curious, because its a very recent scan (2008)

Same as when he cracked Ultron. Retconned to 2nd. Same as Wonder Man breaking Ultron's head. Retconned. And no, he did not tank a blast that "melted" adamantium. He tanked a blast that helped mold secondary adamantium. Why? Because Ultron's ady was retconned to secondary. That's why secondary adamantium was created, to give true adamantium its status back. The only legit one I know of off the top of my head was King Thor melting Wolverine and that he had the Odin power to do so.

So no, Hulk cannot break it. He's too weak.

Gotta admit, i had no idea Ultron body was retconned to second admantium, gotta read up on him :p i have only read his appearances after 2005.

#17 Edited by God_Spawn (35982 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: I can't even remember when it was. I just know Marvel did a general retcon of adamantium some time ago that whenever it was cracked or destroyed it was secondary adamantium. So Ultron's body just ended up falling under that category without ever really specifying and I do know he has had .The scan in question is referring to a past encounter the retcon still holds true or the writer didn't do his research on the retcon. Simple as that.

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#18 Posted by Shawnbaby (9320 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk has done it. King Thor melted it. So it goes both ways.

@shawnbaby said:

Actually...if you could actually get enough Adamantium to make a claw that big...it probably could do the same thing. Also, When it comes to moving Planets "weight" is a meaningless concept. It's all about Mass.

The biggest consideration while moving a planet is actually gravity and the size of the planet and most importantly the distant from its star.

The force, at least in science is calculated as

F = (G*m1*m2)/ (r squared)

You essentially need a force greated that F to move it.

And given how mass of the star is always going to drawf a planet, its the mass of the star that becomes more relevant, as well as r (distance between them measure in meter)

But thats IF they follow science, dont think comics actually do.

Yeah...I was just referring to the fact that Weight is subjective while Mass is a constant.

And yeah...most comics don't follow science very closely at all...some inject a little teensy tinsey tidebit here and there...but as a rule...comic writers are not physicists.

#19 Posted by Saren (24339 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: @god_spawn: It was never retconned on panel, but Brevoort stated that any instances of adamantium breaking are secondary adamantium, whether it says pure adamantium or not. It was in reply to someone asking him if Nul breaking an adamantium net was legit.

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#20 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

BP since he has dat anti-metal

#21 Posted by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Nice! :) When Bendis writes Squirrel Girl she's the most powerful character in the Marvel U.

#22 Posted by God_Spawn (35982 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane: I know there is no official statement on panel regarding all ady breaking being secondary, but I do remember it being retconned even before Fear Itself. Brevoort must have at least known about it before and upheld that end. So it wasn't just Brevoort saying it 2 years ago or so, it's been around longer than that.

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#23 Edited by Joygirl (15368 posts) - - Show Bio

Bomb Queen melts it down and makes a d*ldo out of it. Somehow.

#24 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15929 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

Bomb Queen melts it down and makes a d*ldo out of it. Somehow.

and the best comment award goes to.....

#25 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4517 posts) - - Show Bio

Argument waiting to happen

#26 Posted by RisingBean (2862 posts) - - Show Bio

@daawesome2: Based on your requirements? Nobody. Short of molecular rearrangement, it is not supposed to be broken. Them's the rules. But it seems that for the sake of events, faux drama and a broken editorial staff, many can. Shame really.

#27 Edited by TheAcidSkull (15929 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: Which that scan was retconned. The scan right now is irrelevant. Same as when he cracked Ultron. Retconned to 2nd. Same as Wonder Man breaking Ultron's head. Retconned. And no, he did not tank a blast that "melted" adamantium. He tanked a blast that helped mold secondary adamantium. Why? Because Ultron's ady was retconned to secondary. That's why secondary adamantium was created, to give true adamantium its status back. The only legit one I know of off the top of my head was King Thor melting Wolverine and that he had the Odin power to do so.

So no, Hulk cannot break it. He's too weak.

if he was angry enough he could, but he won't, because marvel likes keeping adamantium as unbreakable , though potentially hulk could do it.

#28 Posted by God_Spawn (35982 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: Hulk could be punching away universes if angry enough. The excuse is old and with anything he has shown so far says no.

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#29 Edited by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio
@shawnbaby said:

@matmatxm8 said:

Superman because he can lift planets

and also green lantern because his constructs are durable enough to support the weight of the planet

I guess adamantium cannot support the weight of a planet

I guess adamantium can't do that

Actually...if you could actually get enough Adamantium to make a claw that big...it probably could do the same thing. Also, When it comes to moving Planets "weight" is a meaningless concept. It's all about Mass.

I dont understand what you say, but I will agree with you

#30 Posted by DaAwesome2 (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp:

Let's say it's as thick as Ultron's armor. I don't want to make it too thick because then only cosmic entitities would be able to destroy it.

#31 Edited by LfRocky (49 posts) - - Show Bio

lobo because he broke c.a sheild in da crossover so i think that he can break adamantium