Ultimate Fantastic Four Tribute

#1 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

All things Ultimate Fantastic Four will be dropped here. Every one loves the Fantastic 4. Well.... not me, but I did fell in love with Ultimate F4. The best thing about Ultimate F4 is the feeling that they are more real than there counterparts. Sur and Reed never got married. Reed is basically funded by the U.S.A. Government. Everything the Baxter Building does is design to help General Ross or General Fury. Reed is simply a genius who wants nothing more than to push science boundaries further. This however leads to Sue and reed breaking up, permanently Thing being cured... sort of, Johnny a loser who lives with Spider Man, and Reed replacing Ultimate Universe Dr. Doom. Also unlike the original F4 this one was created with a Zegative Zone Teleport accident.

So lets get down to these Characters. I will start with the less going on to the most going for them this time.

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Human Torch

I started with the guy that has very little character development in the Ultimate F4 Issues and Cross Overs. He may have more in Ultimate Spider Man, however my Ult. SM collection cuts off before he joins. There is very little to tell here. Johnny is a punk kid who gets powers and like the terrible movies is very self centered. He is often remarked the most powerful, yet he does the least and contributes less in feats. Anyway here he is.

Power

He basicaly is the same as 616 Torch in power. He generates plasma base heat and can reach Nova Temperatures before burning out.

Burns out Dr. Doom's Insects.

Turns Glass into Gas with his heat.

Scan 1-2: Going Nova on Namor.

Scan 3-4: Going Nova on Hyperion.

Should be noted both acts failed to do any damage lol.

His Speed is also very fast when he is Flame On.

Battles

Only real Battle worth Mentioning. It is not as much a battle as it is Torch simply surviving Namor's attack till help arrives.

I wish I could post more but there is nothing really solid on this guy at all. Maybe in the last issues of Spider Man, nothing great in anything else.

Next up is Thing.

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Thing

Thing current look and powers is that of a Wonder man energy being. He retains all the strength and durability, however he affect energy in weird ways. Thing was Reed's best friend and school jock. He was there at Reed's Teleport incident as a special guest. What happen turn him into the rock monster we all know and love. Unlike 616 Thing, Ultimate Ben had sever depression and tried to find ways to kill himself at times. He was always the heart and soul of the team though, and still had Reed's back.

Strength

Really, what else would his powers be?

Scan 1: Thing is registered with one quick test that broke the machine. He was read as 7 tons per sqaure inch of his hand alone. Do the match and were talking Multi Thousand Tons.

Scan 2: Strength and Durability. the strength is Thing Jumping from the Street to halfway up a Sky Scraper, Hulk Style. Durability flying through Buildings with no probs.

Scan 3: Thing rips up a Iron Man Suit easy.

Scan 4: Thunder clap lol.

Scan 5: Thing topples a monster the size of a Blue Whale.

Scan 6: Strength and Durability vs Hyperion. He tanks the hit in the face with a off hand comment and then cracks Hyperion's Hand. Ouch.

Scan 7: Smacks two Silver Searchers around. They both have the power of a Sun and strength wise broke free from Hulk Containment device like nothing.

Scan 8: Like Hyperion Thing tanks the hit of Hyperion's equal Zarda.

His Strength is good enough to crush Dr. Dooms skull with one hand. Dr. Doom was also very durable in showings.

Durability

Another great aspect of Thing.

Scan 1: Thing's durability extends to his Organs, can breath Acid lol.

Scan 2: Thing tanks a Kree Killform attack that blows up armored Humvees apart.

Scan 3: Thing is immune to heat pretty much, he tanks this straight plasma gun with no probs. he also survives Torch going Super Nova from a loss of power control. Heat does not bother Thing.

Scan 4-5: As I said above Thing tanks blows from Hyperion beings like nothing.

His Durability so awesome he does not even noticed a Truck hitting him lol.

New Powers.

Thing gets new Powers when Reed figure a way to cure Ben of his rocky look.

These power are still not fully delved into. He can now switch looks, normal to energy, as well.

What we do know is Sue's Force Field is simply by pass by Ben's new powers.

Battles

A lot of Battles with Thing are as expected short. He really overpowers most foes with ease. Here are some.

Ben vs Brute. Brute is a being who can use every evolutionary trait in the universe. Anything naturally evolved, he has access to that trait. Ben shows him nothing natural in the universe can Overpower him. so Brute had to evolve the best poisons.

Ben vs Mole Man Monster. The fact he is hitting Godzilla Jr. with enough force to shatter surrounding Glass gives ya clue how powerful he is.

Thing vs Zombie Hulk. KOed Zombie Hulk in one shot!

Thing vs Doom Bot. this Doom Bot was powerful enough to overpower Iron Man and put Thing down. It is when Thing got back up that the Doom Bot stood no chance.

Thing vs Hulk. This is a awesome showing as Hulk who was wrecking the Squadron Supreme(s) and Ultimates was matched by Thing in a Brawl and KOed with his Knock Out Punch.

Thing in his new form vs a insane Captain Marvel. Capatin Marvel best feat is surving Things hit more than once. Notice the damage to the Building with Things punches.

Well that about wraps it up for Thing. He has a new look, new attitude, and is dating the sexy Sue. At a boy Ben!

Speaking of Sue.....

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Invisible Woman

I am a guy and I have to say Ultimate Sue is a lot more cuter than 616. she is younger and quite the freak with Reed lol.

The best part of Ultimate Sue is she actually has a purpose in the F4 comics. Unlike 616 who was Reeds crush and kinda there as a woman for her man, this Sue is a leading genius in Biology. She is a freaking Scientist that not only contribute heavily to the adventures, she fights many villains to save the day on her own, including Reed!

Powers

She can bend air and light in some fashion for Invisible shields and attacks.

Scan 1: IW uses AOE type move to clear a street.

Scan 2: IW makes breathable air Bubbles under water.

Scan 3: IW shows how devastating a bubble expanding in a fraction of a second can be.

Scan 4-5: One of the best feats of power. IW pushes back the immeasurable force of this Tidal Wave.

Scan 6: Sue gets real with Reed and tries to kill him twice!

Shields

Scan 1-2: IW has wrapped herself in her force fields.

Scan 1-3: Shields tank a grazing blow from Reeds Big Bang gun.

Scan 4-6: Shields easily tanks a Nuke.

Scan 7-8: Shields hold up a couple 100 tons.

Other Uses of Power

Her power is not limited to shields, she also used her power to blind people!

She can also see others in a Invisible Spectrum.

Sue Shields can also keep beings like Kitty from Phasing.

Don't touch Namor! Fear the B***h Slap!

Genius

Ultimate Sue is a Genius in the field of Biology and knows more than reed does in her field 0_0!

Looks and Brains.

Battles

Sue first battle with Dooms Robotic Assassins. Trash Compactor.

Sue battles Karnak of the Inhumans.

Sue battles a Zombieverse Reed Richards. Easy win.

Sue vs Giant Jello Snail lol.

Sue battles Gallow Glass. This guy is nuts powerful, Sue being the genius she is finds a way to beat him and save everyone.

Sue battles a Ghost Chick made of Ghost Apes. Dont ask, it is long winded. The point is this Chick has a Ape Army in her, her Apes can copy Powers, and the chick herself is a Phasing Ghost type. Sue beats her withbrains. Reed is not the only one who can out think a problem in the Ultimate World. IW is also severly drugged in this battle.

Sue vs Reed's Bio Weapons. They are very powerful mid tier beings.

Sue first battle against Reed with Prep!

Sue final battle with reed. she takes out Hulk in one move and shows Reed she can win with prep as well.

That is Ultimate Susan, a true contributer of the group unlike her baby popping 616 counterpart lol.

Last and not least the main attraction of the Fantastic Four.

#2 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr. Fantastic

Unlike his counter part, he rarely goes by this title, instead he has many others. Including Dr. Doom and The Maker. 90% of the time he is simply Reed. Reed is the brains and main star of the F4. He makes most of the plans, creates the best gear, and in time became the biggest threat to the Ultimate Verse twice over.

Powers

When talking Powers, Durability is Reeds best attribute.

Scan 1-2: Reed durability survives a mini Black Hole.

Scan 3-4: Bounces 5.56 Assault Riffle Rounds off him.

Scan 5-7: Reed takes Torches full blast, IW hammer blows, and Things best punches. Minimal damage.

Scan 8-10: IW tries to choke Reed to death. when that fails she tries to pop his brain. That fails too, however it was quite funny.

Scan 11: Reed proved to be resist Molecule Manipulation. Nice....

Scan 12-13:Stabbing cannot kill or harm Reed.

Scan 14: Reed proves any damage to him auto seals up like a healing factor.

Durability wise he is a beast. His power allowed other neat things too.

Scan 1: Reed does not need Oxygen.

Scan 2-3: Reed can stretch his brain. This allows him increase thinking speed and problem solving.

Scan 4: Reed can stretch his Lungs to keep from sucking Gas.

Scan 5: Reed Speed is enough to catch this barreling Thing.

Skills

Reed is not without skill.

Scan 1: Reed knows Pressure points.

Scan 2: Reed senses are super sharp. Hard to fool this guy.

Scan 3: Reed exploits weak points of a enemy many times.

Scan 4: Reed before his ability to increase his intelligence was able to build a dimension teleporting device as a child.

Reed Skills is not limit to Tech either.

Here Doom switch bodies with Reed. In one day, Reed learns most of the Atlantian magic spells Doom had obtain, and in Doom's body he wrecks the Zombie 4.

Gear

Now we are at the best part of Reed. The Gear.

Fantastic 5. Although Namor wrecked it before Reed could get his force field up, it was stated to mimic the Fantastic 4 power set and even double the powers level.

Hard Light Construct Helmet. Reed made this device to allow him to use up Energy of the entire Eastern US into powerful Constructs.

Reed also has a Holographic computer he operates from.

Time Devices. At his young age Reed has created straight Time Machine. Later he created a Time Dome that slows time making 1 month a 1000 years in the dome.

Big Bang Gun.

Bio Bombs. These alien soldiers, that Reed made, are genetic creatures with Uber Powers in their Humanoid forms. They can explode in a instant, and rapidly grow into Slug Beasts. He uses the Satellites in the sky to jack and target targets, with deadly accuracy, via Vortex Teleportation.

First Knife. Reed created the Cyborg First Knife. A Being that moves fast enough to dodge lightning at point blank and speed blitz Thor who has Reaction Time comparable to Quick Silver and Hyperion!

Anti Matter Bombs! Reed made these bad boys and is able to teleport them!

Star Stealing Device. Reed has made devices that steal stars from other universe. This device was powerful enough to pull a Silver Searcher to him when it was 2+ Light Years in size!

Hacking Tech. Reed has tech that Hijacked the super advance Kree tech of Captain Marvel.

1) Reed has mapped the Multiverses

2) Reed maps most of the Multi Verses and Dimensions.

3) Reed makes devices that record and study Universes.

4) Reed spies on other Marvel Universes.

5) Reed visted other Marvel Earths many times.

1) Reed has also created his own Giant Man Formula.

2) Reed discovers thePym Particles for shrinking.

Magic Containment. Reed has made gear that can detect and contain Magic!

Depower Gun. Reed made a handheld device that simply depowers any special powers. This included Mutants, Fantastic Four Members, and even Franklin with the Phoenix Force!

Reed has even used his Gear to Mentally Hijack a Omnipath of incredible power.

Reed makes Psy Proof Shields Suits. However Rhona has Technopathy that shuts off the Shields only to have a Technopathy Virus within the Shields infect her mind.

Reed cures Wolverine of a super mutating Virus in hours.

Scanner Bots. Self explanatory lol.

Zero Point Energy. Reed made a Zero Point energy device.

Reed made a Pucking Agent that can cause anyone to uncontrollably puke.

Bases and Subordinates

Reed with a few months also manages to build entire bases like the N-Zone Base and the City. Both with the Bio Bomb transforming Aliens and the Geneticly born Super Humans of the City.

Cosmic Cube

The most powerful weapon Reed made was his Cosmic Cube.

The Cosmic Cube was made by Reed and was used to bend Reality to his will.

CC withstands City Busting Attacks with no strain on Reed.

Scan 1: CC flash freezes a Planet!

Scan 2: CC warps planet.

Scan 3: CC restores the Earth.

Scan 4: CC turns Seas into Stone.

Scan 1: Teleports across Universe.

Scan 2-3: Teleports Red Skull and Avengers from blast.

CC rends Time and Space.

Creates Tower for Seat of Power.

Scan 1:CC turns flesh into energy.

Scan 2: CC turns energy into flesh.

Scan 3: CC turns Warmachine's Armor into Toys.

Scan 1-3: CC senses danger puts a impenetrable force field up and time freezes the city within.

Scan 1-3: Transmutates the God Thor!

Scan 1: Mind Controls Ultimates and F4.

Scan 2-3: Mind Controls A.I.M. to eat themselves.

Scan 4-5: Screwing with Red Wasps mind.

CC increases Red Skull's durability to shrug off blows from Warmachine and Nerd Hulk.

Scan 1: TK like levitation and flight.

Scan 2-3: TK like attack to blow away the Decoys.

Scan 4: TK like power blows away Nerd Hulk.

Scan 5: TK like attack throws a mach speed jet aside.

The point is the Cosmic Cube is Devastating.

Battles

Reed vs Dr. Doom in his first major battle.

Reed brief Scuffle when surrounded by the X-Men. Slick Moves.

Reed vs the Transmuatation Master Diablo. Reed preps even when he has none lol.

Reed vs Crimson Dynomo. Reed goes nowhere without some on the fly prep.

Reed vs Namor in a rematch. Reed wins with the prep taser he made in one move.

Reed battles his way out of a giant Iron Man Trap.

Wow..... Reed is such a monster. I think it is safe to say any loss on Reeds behalf is PIS to the max and Ultimate Reed is more than a match for 616 Dr. Doom much less Reeds 616 counterpart. Hope you all enjoyed this compilation of Ultimate Fantastic Four!

#3 Posted by SlimJ87D (9612 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: You're awesome man, I'm going to spend a good hour ont he toilet tomorrow reading through this. I don't know enough about the Ultimate FF. Honestly, you have the most knowledge of the Ultimate Universe out of everyone IMO. I'm really happy you joined the boards.

#4 Edited by laflux (15141 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d said:

@cadencev2: You're awesome man, I'm going to spend a good hour ont he toilet tomorrow reading through this. I don't know enough about the Ultimate FF. Honestly, you have the most knowledge of the Ultimate Universe out of everyone IMO. I'm really happy you joined the boards.

Yes pretty much this. The Ultimate Spider-Man board is nice as reference for feats, but I'm familiar since I'm a fan of all things Spider-Man Hahaha. This is even better since I have next to no knowledge of the Ult FF. Ben Grimm seems really cool and interesting.

#5 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Searcher

The Silver Searcher was a being created by the Psycho Man. A Ruler with World Level Telepathy and Mind Control Devices who ruled his own highly advance world. The Silver searcher was made to be Immune to Teleapthy as well created as a metal substance being who would have a Star in his body as a power source.

Powers

Silver Searcher is empowered by a Star inside his body, whats more has control over virtually every form of energy in the Universe.

Immunity to Telepathy as well telepathic himself.

He is Immortal as well and he says took away his immunity to telepathy, it seems proven only false as he actively disobeys Psycho Mans commands.

Can increase his size up to 2 Light years in mass!

Senses every form of Energy and does this on a world level.

Intangibility as well showing that Mind Control.

Strength to break from a Hulk Restraint with no probs.

Strength and Durability to walk in the core of Stars as well tank and over power Thing.

Battles

Silver Searcher full battle with Fantastic Four and SHIELD.

Silver Searcher working for the Watchers turns Phoenix back to earth.

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Gah Lak Tus and Silver Heralds

Gah Lak Tus is the universal destroyer of the Ultimate Verse. It is a collective of hyper machine that cruise around the Universe and wiping out all intelligent Life. It devours stars as well planets.

Gah Lak Tus vs Universe of the most advance Life Forms.

Gah Lak Tus vs Xavier with Super Cerebro. No contest. Later Xavier, Phoenix, and the entire World thoughts still failed to do anything to Gah Lak Tus other make it pitch a fit.

Reed shows how Gah Lak Tus wipes out planets.

Now lets look at how the Silver Heralds came into being.

The Silver Searcher was so powerful, and traveled the Multi Verse for so long, that he was bound to run into Gah Lak Tus who copied the Silver Searcher to make his own lesser powerful heralds. There is a total of 5 of the Heralds known.

Powers

Much like the Silver Searcher, these Heralds are top notch powerful, rivaling that of Iron Man.

These things book at 99% speed of light.

Bullet Proof Force Fields.

Teleport.

Durability is extreme. They can reform parts of their bodies as well withstand large blast altogether.

Strength to rip up Iron Man armor as well Break with ease Captain Marvels arm who is super durable.

Powerful electrical energy blast.

Battles

Silver Herald vs Misty Knight, Falcon, and Captain America.

Silver Herald vs Iron Man and Captain Marvel.

Well I feel happy with all this. Hope you all enjoy it as well. Peace.

#6 Edited by SlimJ87D (9612 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@laflux: Yeah Ben is kinds boss with his new power set and attitude.

@slimj87d: So you finish reading this yet? lol.

Reading it now. Do you have the scans of him defeating asgard? I'm about to read Ultimate Fallout.

#7 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d: Nah, I skipped over that as it was mostly poor Thor, Loki, and rest being killed like total wussies. Well Thor lives of course, but I simply skipped over it as it was mostly Thor smacking Hela to stick his kid in the Life Tree to save him.

#8 Edited by SlimJ87D (9612 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@slimj87d: Nah, I skipped over that as it was mostly poor Thor, Loki, and rest being killed like total wussies. Well Thor lives of course, but I simply skipped over it as it was mostly Thor smacking Hela to stick his kid in the Life Tree to save him.

But as sad as it is, it's still a pretty crazy showing of Ultimate Reed. I think Utimate Reed surpassed 616 Reed because he's over 1000 something years old and his brain evolved and tripled in size too!

It's pretty crazy to think of Reed Richards as a villain.

I have a strange feeling that a lot of people might be brought back in the Ultimate Universe one day and it'll have to do with Thor and Valhalla.

#9 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimj87d: The reason Ultimate Reed is so smart is becuase he stretches his brain to gain more thinking space and solve problems faster. Sue mentions this in one of the F4 Comics and Reed shows it to Sam as well.

#10 Posted by mightyrearranger (1491 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope I didn't skim over this, did anyone mention the incredibly terrifying Marvel Zombies Four?

Easily the most horrifying part of that story and I loved every panel of them. :)

#12 Edited by ComicStooge (12481 posts) - - Show Bio

Woah.

If they do a F4 movie again, it should be closer to the Ultimate version of them.

#13 Posted by catfightfan (580 posts) - - Show Bio

My, my.... I should check the forums more often. You just provided scans of my favorite Ultimate FF foe, Ruytskaya, the female Red Ghost! Many thanks indeed! As for the Ultimate FF, I was saddened when it was cancelled. However, I thought the middle of the series was quite weak with poor artwork especially. The beginning was so-so, but the final third was really special, with superior art and great stories. I especially loved the evil Agatha Harkness and her Salem's Seven issues, as well as the female Red Ghost storyline. Maybe the series will return someday?

#14 Edited by RustyRoy (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Reed built the Cosmic Cube? I didn't know that! Again you've done a great job! What are going to do next?

Btw Namor looks like Taylor Lautner though Sue looks really nice.

#15 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

i love everything about UFF except sue. my god! she is the ultime bi*ch. so manipulative. they toned it down in ultimate enemy (fantastic stuff with ben in that one). reed being the next doom, johnny more or less the same. good stuff. oh and awesome job dude.

#16 Posted by catfightfan (580 posts) - - Show Bio

i love everything about UFF except sue. my god! she is the ultime bi*ch. so manipulative. they toned it down in ultimate enemy (fantastic stuff with ben in that one). reed being the next doom, johnny more or less the same. good stuff. oh and awesome job dude.

There seems to be quite a few ComicVine fans who do not like Sue Storm.

#17 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@catfightfan: ultimate sue storm. regular 616 is awesome, if a little bland. best mom in comics though.

#18 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@thetimestreamer said:

i love everything about UFF except sue. my god! she is the ultime bi*ch. so manipulative. they toned it down in ultimate enemy (fantastic stuff with ben in that one). reed being the next doom, johnny more or less the same. good stuff. oh and awesome job dude.

There seems to be quite a few ComicVine fans who do not like Sue Storm.

I for one adore Ultimate sue. She is a actual player with power and brains. Plus she flaunts what she has.

#19 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved Ult FF untill Reed went insane

#20 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

I loved Ult FF untill Reed went insane

Reed insane makes the perfect villain lol.

#21 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Yea but it effectively meant the end of the book

#22 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Yea but it effectively meant the end of the book

True, however it was gonna happen, 616 is still too popular for Ultimates to make that much money. So they cut out F4 and merge them with Ultimates pretty much with Reed being the super Villain they needed after killing Magneto off.

#23 Edited by VanDamme (7 posts) - - Show Bio

add some infos about Dr.Doom.

#24 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

Ultimate Reed was the best character 1610 ever produced. Unfortunately he was ruined for no other reason than Bendis and Hickman have no idea what they're doing and have no right writing comics.

Nice write-up by the OP. Got to Thing's new powers and had to stop though, almost vomited.

F*cking Marvel.

#27 Posted by ComicStooge (12481 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Posted by VanDamme (7 posts) - - Show Bio

So when we can expect iformations about Ultimate Dr.Dooom ? I just can't wait for them !

#29 Posted by dondave (36124 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Pretty Sweet Respect Thread, however, Sue didn't hold the head of Black Bolt's statue, Crystal did

#30 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@cadencev2: Pretty Sweet Respect Thread, however, Sue didn't hold the head of Black Bolt's statue, Crystal did

What? Why you say that? I do not remember her anywhere in the fight.

She caught it? Im not sure where Crystal played a role.

#31 Posted by dondave (36124 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@cadencev2: Pretty Sweet Respect Thread, however, Sue didn't hold the head of Black Bolt's statue, Crystal did

What? Why you say that? I do not remember her anywhere in the fight.

She caught it? Im not sure where Crystal played a role.

Medusa literally said it on the next page

#32 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@cadencev2 said:

@dondave said:

@cadencev2: Pretty Sweet Respect Thread, however, Sue didn't hold the head of Black Bolt's statue, Crystal did

What? Why you say that? I do not remember her anywhere in the fight.

She caught it? Im not sure where Crystal played a role.

Medusa literally said it on the next page

Wow nice catch. however it is easily argued that Sue still has better feats.

Hyperion Punches for example.

Or this example of 100+ tons of Stone Column that falls on the F4. Same caliber to the satue. Did Crystal make a difference? Maybe, I think its reasonable that Sue did more work holding it up since her feats are > crystal before this.

Nice catch though. I will have to take that scan out now.

#33 Edited by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

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