Fantastic Four #8

Posted by G-Man (32555 posts) - - Show Bio

The Good

We've seen Ben Grimm given a once-a-year cure from being the Thing. It's once again time for his transformation and it's Ben's wish to return to a certain point in the past to visit Yancy Street. Seeing his adventure and the reason for his visit is fascinating to see as it unfolds.

It's not often we get to see Ben in his human form and it is a glorious site. He is more than just a hero made of rocks. Of course the fact that he's in Yancy Street's past is a kick as well.

While this is happening, we start to see the seeds being planted for the team's next visit which might change what we know about a certain character, in a big way.

As a fan of Mark Bagley, it's always great to see what he does each issue. Seeing his version of Yancy Street in the past is pretty cool. You have to love his rendition of Ben Grimm as well.

The Bad

The story was enjoyable but just seemed to be lacking a little something. Ben has a reason in mind for visiting the past. You have to assume he didn't make it clear to Reed and the others what his actual intentions were. It does say something about Ben in the way things turned out. It just felt like his once-a-year transformation happened too quickly and didn't even last an entire issue.

It might be nitpicking but the fact that a year has passed in comics since Ben's last transformation is a little unsettling. Yes it's been a while (in our time) but the passing of time in comics, even at a slower pace, shouldn't be addressed. Comic characters remain ageless in a sense due to this and it allows for more stories. Maybe it's time to allow characters like Franklin and Valeria to age another year but looking at the big picture, it's not something I really want to think about.

The Verdict

The idea of the Thing returning to human form once a year is a neat idea. Unfortunately that time feels as if it's come too quickly and passes by even quicker. The action in this story passed by way too fast and it feels like it was just setting things up for the possible big implications hinted at for the next issue. Ben Grimm in Yancy Street was cool but with his 'mission' changing, it just felt like an average story instead of being allowed to have story elements fleshed out. I just wanted more from the issue. But we do have a pretty big twist possibly coming next issue.

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#1 Edited by InkInk (181 posts) - - Show Bio

Never a good thing to see one of my favorite titles only pull in a 3.

#2 Posted by Poncho (64 posts) - - Show Bio

i wish this would have been a 2-parter.

#3 Posted by Gritterr (491 posts) - - Show Bio

Any Theories as to how Franklin and Valeria seem to remember the Age of Ultron as a dream?

#4 Posted by Teerack (5851 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to see thing get control of his powers one of these days. :\ And it be sick if he could turn into that molten form he turns into last issue that looked sorta like the fear itself thing.

#5 Posted by Cap10nate (2241 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I may drop this title. It's not that bad of a book, I just don't enjoy it as much as a lot of my other books and would like to make some room for Harbinger. I may pick up next month because I am interested in this whole Ben and Doom fiasco.

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#6 Edited by ptigrusmagus (487 posts) - - Show Bio

I've read this current run and enjoyed individual issues themselves but the overall storyline isn't quite moving as I'd like. Feel like the Four are in space just to free up Earth for the FF title rather than them being in space to diagnose Reed's issues.

#7 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18022 posts) - - Show Bio

i honestly Hate the idea matt fraction is doing right now

#8 Posted by Reignmaker (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

i honestly Hate the idea matt fraction is doing right now

Ouch. I think it was a good idea, I just don't think the execution has been as great here as with FF. I do like the singular story type focus each issue though.

#9 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18022 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

i honestly Hate the idea matt fraction is doing right now

Ouch. I think it was a good idea, I just don't think the execution has been as great here as with FF. I do like the singular story type focus each issue though.

I really don't like it, it goes against the things character.

#10 Posted by Arkhamc1tizen (2140 posts) - - Show Bio

i really enjoy FF right now

#11 Posted by Tyrannotaur (288 posts) - - Show Bio

You know it's funny. When the marvel now titles were all announced I thought I'd love Fantastic four and hate FF. Now that I've been reading them Fantastic Four bores me a bit and I absolutely love FF. I'm not a huge Bagley fan so the art didn't excite me and the story is just OK, I know Fraction can do better. Probably going to stop getting F4 here until something exciting happens or there's a FF crossover.

#12 Posted by tomlikesfries (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@reignmaker said:

@theacidskull said:

i honestly Hate the idea matt fraction is doing right now

Ouch. I think it was a good idea, I just don't think the execution has been as great here as with FF. I do like the singular story type focus each issue though.

I really don't like it, it goes against the things character.

What goes against Thing's character? If you're talking about the fact that the origin of Doom was Ben's fault, then I really don't see a problem. I mean, what's the big deal? Let's take Hulk as an example, since he is a character you love so much. He lifted the freaking Mjolnir. Even people like Captain America or Superman (in crossovers) couldn't do that, so why should Banner be able to do it? Yes, he decided to suddenly start helping humanity, but Captain America has been doing that since the 1940s. It's absurd, but you certainly didn't care that much at all.

I really don't mean to start a fight or offend anyone, but it just seems to be nitpicking.

#13 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18022 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@reignmaker said:

@theacidskull said:

i honestly Hate the idea matt fraction is doing right now

Ouch. I think it was a good idea, I just don't think the execution has been as great here as with FF. I do like the singular story type focus each issue though.

I really don't like it, it goes against the things character.

What goes against Thing's character? If you're talking about the fact that the origin of Doom was Ben's fault, then I really don't see a problem. I mean, what's the big deal? Let's take Hulk as an example, since he is a character you love so much. He lifted the freaking Mjolnir. Even people like Captain America or Superman (in crossovers) couldn't do that, so why should Banner be able to do it? Yes, he decided to suddenly start helping humanity, but Captain America has been doing that since the 1940s. It's absurd, but you certainly didn't care that much at all.

I really don't mean to start a fight or offend anyone, but it just seems to be nitpicking.

read indestructible 7, hulk didn't lift mjolnir. and i've made it clear in a blog to why banner could be worthy and i stated that there was probably a catch to WHY he did it, which is why i wasn't bothered by it, i know savage hulk isn't worthy. banner didn't just START helping people either, he started using his brain more, BIG difference. While fraction has the unnecessary need to make a lot of retcons, why Does ben have to be responsible for Dooms creation? No reason. it just happens. now if it was reed, it COULD have made a bit more sense.

#14 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18022 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@reignmaker said:

@theacidskull said:

i honestly Hate the idea matt fraction is doing right now

Ouch. I think it was a good idea, I just don't think the execution has been as great here as with FF. I do like the singular story type focus each issue though.

I really don't like it, it goes against the things character.

What goes against Thing's character? If you're talking about the fact that the origin of Doom was Ben's fault, then I really don't see a problem. I mean, what's the big deal? Let's take Hulk as an example, since he is a character you love so much. He lifted the freaking Mjolnir. Even people like Captain America or Superman (in crossovers) couldn't do that, so why should Banner be able to do it? Yes, he decided to suddenly start helping humanity, but Captain America has been doing that since the 1940s. It's absurd, but you certainly didn't care that much at all.

I really don't mean to start a fight or offend anyone, but it just seems to be nitpicking.

read indestructible 7, hulk didn't lift mjolnir. and i've made it clear in a blog to why banner could be worthy and i stated that there was probably a catch to WHY he did it, which is why i wasn't bothered by it, i know savage hulk isn't worthy. banner didn't just START helping people either, he started using his brain more, BIG difference. While fraction has the unnecessary need to make a lot of retcons, why Does ben have to be responsible for Dooms creation? No reason. it just happens. now if it was reed, it COULD have made a bit more sense.

#15 Posted by tomlikesfries (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: Started using his brain to pay off for whatever tragedy the big guy causes. And I just wanted to point out that it's not unecessary. I mean, why would he do that for absolutely no reason? It's been a while since I read this issue, but, as far as I remember, there was a refference to what he did at the last page (Reed and Sue were really shocked) and Franklin and Val were going to college.

#16 Posted by Agent_Prince (138 posts) - - Show Bio

The reaction to this book has surprised me. It's one of Marvel's current best, and definitely Matt Fraction's current best. I would drop all my other Marvel titles before this one.'

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