Tired of Her Being Called a Husband-Stealer

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#51 Posted by KenTheProfile (412 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah because Husband stealer is too nice. She is much more vile.

#52 Posted by Shadowdoggy (3815 posts) - - Show Bio

how is she so hated by people? 
sure, she was a villain 
but so was Rogue 
and no one seems to care that she's been an X-men for a few decades now 
Emma has proven herself to be a reformed villain 
she's been co-leader of the X-men for YEARS now 
she had the chance to stab the X-men in the back as being a part of the Cabal 
but when push came to shove, she was on the X-Men's side the whole time 
it's really obnoxious that people think just because they have Famke Jansen as their screen saver, or because they still watch X-Men TAS on DVD every time they have a free moment, that it means they have to hate Jean's replacement 
it's just sad
#53 Posted by Jake Fury (18116 posts) - - Show Bio

 
I wonder if Morrison had any idea Frost would be so successful as an X-Woman? I'm pretty sure his original intent was to solely shock people. 

#54 Posted by KenTheProfile (412 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shadowdoggy said:
"how is she so hated by people? sure, she was a villain but so was Rogue and no one seems to care that she's been an X-men for a few decades now Emma has proven herself to be a reformed villain she's been co-leader of the X-men for YEARS now she had the chance to stab the X-men in the back as being a part of the Cabal but when push came to shove, she was on the X-Men's side the whole time it's really obnoxious that people think just because they have Famke Jansen as their screen saver, or because they still watch X-Men TAS on DVD every time they have a free moment, that it means they have to hate Jean's replacement it's just sad "


to clearify I love that she is vile. Husband stealer makes her seem like a whore. she is much more intrestring then that. 
vile maybe to strong a word.  but it what i used
#55 Posted by joshmightbe (24599 posts) - - Show Bio

this is similar to my hank pym argument 

#56 Posted by Lokheit (492 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer said:
" Personally I like Emma WAAAAAY more then I'll ever like Jean, Marvel just made Jean unappealing over the years in my opinion, plus Emma is a MUCH more interesting character to read about. "
I liked Jean a lot on the good years. But Jean character was more and more unappealing with the time  (BTW another character that I find suffering the same unappealing evolution as Jean is Ororo, another character that I used to like a lot). 
 
A lot of people recall the psychic affair (wich technically would be like thinking on another woman while she thinks on you) but no one seems to remember than on the same Morrison series, and I think that before that affair, Jean and Logan shared a passionate PHYSICAL kiss and she never told Scott... 
#57 Posted by SC (12694 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shadowdoggy: Often fans of other strong female characters, can tend to not like other strong female characters, because of how they think it reflects on their favorite character. Rather than see this as a good thing, for comics, comic fans, and even their favorite character, because its amazing when you have two strong and powerful female characters in comics, just talk, interact, disagree and agree with each other, especially under a good writer, they make veiled and cheap insults, to downplay their characters "competition" and its funny, because less threatening characters are viewed positively, or condescendingly.  
 
I think its a fear thing as well, Emma is a lot more blunt, raunchy, and sexually confident and aware than most other characters, and how she looks, and how she is, are two different things, and the world is a fast place and stereotypes are easy to be applied by how things look, opposed to how things are. There are much more 'safe' characters out there, in this regard, especially on the surface.  
 
I agree too, Jean fans, I think have a lot to gain over liking and appreciating Emma, and Emma fans with Jean too. 
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#58 Posted by KumoriKunoichi (588 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma is much better :D

#59 Posted by entropy_aegis (14219 posts) - - Show Bio

I've read emma's solo,and i can safely say it is one of the best ongoings i've ever read. 
and leave poor scott alone.
#60 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @AgeofHurricane said:
" I thought people already got it that she never stole Scott (pathetic excuse for a male) but i do think that she is still branded as a H-S because of what she did "
I actually agree with this. I just don't think that she should be branded that way.  
 
@Alurvelve said:
" @unicornpuncher said:
" I just think its crazy that scott is hitting all the tail in the house and no ones even putting blame on him.  He made out with Psylocke, was with Jean then traded up to Emma.  Way to go Scott for not even trying that hard. "
He didn't really make out with Psylocke. The 'slipped' kiss wasn't really his fault, but he still caught flack from Jean for his thoughts about Psylocke. They'd show her zapping him with some tk bolt or something at times he would think of her. By the pool for one instance. "
That's ridiculous and really speaks to their whole marriage and the state that it was in.   "
Regardless of my opinion on the current topic, I don't think that it is ridicolous. When Scott was daydreaming about Psylocke (and not in a nice way)  while next to Jean, its normal that she would interrupt his daydream. Scott's was feeling love for Psylocke and it was induced by her (without her knowledge but still). I think Aluverve portrayed the "tk bolt" kind of more violently than happened.
#61 Posted by unicornpuncher (418 posts) - - Show Bio

Hide yo kids, hide yo husbands!  Emma Frost is in yo hood!

#62 Posted by Jake Fury (18116 posts) - - Show Bio

The bottom line is that it takes TWO (2) to tango.
#63 Posted by Enyalios (141 posts) - - Show Bio

It wasn't Emma that walked away, it was Scott. Emma asked Scott to join her as co-headmasters of the school and Scott said no and left, causing a future apocolypse so Jean prompted Scott to stay.
#64 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7261 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress: Yeah tbh i still bran Emma as a H-S whore because i don't like her i know she never actually took Scott away from Jean but it looked that way because of how she did it, Emma fan's are going to have to get over the fact that she's branded as a;whore,slut,husband stealer,evil bitch etc, she's made her name and it will stay with her 
(unless a miracle happens)
#65 Posted by athelney101 (1 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress: scott is a stupid infatuated fool who's high on his male ego. not only does he break jean's heart, he also makes emma look bad.
#66 Posted by John Valentine (16270 posts) - - Show Bio
@athelney101 said: 

@The Dark Huntress: scott is a stupid infatuated fool who's high on his male ego. not only does he break jean's heart, he also makes emma look bad. "  

   


Please, Scott Summers is widely recognised as one of the smartest tactical leaders in the MU. Secondly, Emma's love for Scott was openly declared to Logan before Scott openly admitted his love for her. Their love is portrayed as being equal on both sides, if not more in favour of Emma loving Scott more given how she's more subservient and willing to follow his rule than she used to be . This is not what your use of "infatuated" implies. Scott's not special in the male ego regard. Look at Namor, Magneto and Wolverine for a start.

Matt Fraction
 makes Emma look bad, not Scott. Joss Whedon's Emma was absolutely fine. For that matter, most other writers have written a well-characterised Emma. 
  
Jean forced Scott to enter a relationship with Emma. If history were to have taken its natural course, the 616 timeline would have become the Here Comes Tomorrow timeline at the point of Jean's death. In her dying effort Jean pushed/established the idea in Scott's mind such that he confirm a relationship with Emma;
 
It was touched upon in Morrison's New X-Men that Scott and Jean had been moving apart for a while; Scott's personality alteration following his merge with Apocalypse and Jean's Phoenix Force side re-emerging served to aid this distancing. This was good character progression. We would not want  both characters to be trapped in a stale relationship; that was how Gambit and Rogue got boring.     
#67 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not Emma's fault. It's Cyclops's fault for being so damn irresistible. It's the shades. I'm sure of it. 

#68 Posted by Mercy_ (92501 posts) - - Show Bio
@John Valentine said:
" @athelney101 said: 

@The Dark Huntress: scott is a stupid infatuated fool who's high on his male ego. not only does he break jean's heart, he also makes emma look bad. "  

   


Please, Scott Summers is widely recognised as one of the smartest tactical leaders in the MU. Secondly, Emma's love for Scott was openly declared to Logan before Scott openly admitted his love for her. Their love is portrayed as being equal on both sides, if not more in favour of Emma loving Scott more given how she's more subservient and willing to follow his rule than she used to be . This is not what your use of "infatuated" implies. Scott's not special in the male ego regard. Look at Namor, Magneto and Wolverine for a start.

Matt Fraction
 makes Emma look bad, not Scott. Joss Whedon's Emma was absolutely fine. For that matter, most other writers have written a well-characterised Emma.   Jean forced Scott to enter a relationship with Emma. If history were to have taken its natural course, the 616 timeline would have become the Here Comes Tomorrow timeline at the point of Jean's death. In her dying effort Jean pushed/established the idea in Scott's mind such that he confirm a relationship with Emma; It was touched upon in Morrison's New X-Men that Scott and Jean had been moving apart for a while; Scott's personality alteration following his merge with Apocalypse and Jean's Phoenix Force side re-emerging served to aid this distancing. This was good character progression. We would not want  both characters to be trapped in a stale relationship; that was how Gambit and Rogue got boring.      "
So much win right there. 
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#69 Posted by jubilee042 (1353 posts) - - Show Bio

cyclops is not the guy to marry with i mean he left madelyn for jean while was married nad was about to be a father  i know jeans and his relationship was diminshing but he was married i know the love in his marriage was going but that was not the right thing to do i meanif it was ending he should have talked to jean and bring the love back even if his lov for jean was ending but that is no reason to  hav an affair with an another woman i mean he was still married love or not he was still married to jean i know emma is at fault here and i mean at a big fault but so is cyclops the only thing jean should have done was to try to bring the love back  everyone one is at falut but emma and scott are at a bigger fault

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