So,she hates him now ??!!

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#1 Edited by Darksider555 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

in the recent all new x-men,cyke and magneto busted emma out of prison.And her reaction to seeing cyke wasnt the best.Lets just say that the s*ites of AvX have had a effect on the rest of continuity.But im still pissed that bendis broke them apart.So what are your feelings?Agree with me? or disagree to such a point that you think that alpha is better then Spiderman.Let me know.

P.S Im kidding about alpha.everyone know that he sucks :D

#2 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7282 posts) - - Show Bio

What has Bendis done to Emma Grace Frost ?

#3 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

'Emma has no telepathy now. WTH.

#4 Posted by joshmightbe (24876 posts) - - Show Bio

If they're broken up can Cyke finally hook up with a non telepath? Its starting to seem like a fetish with him.

#5 Posted by Darksider555 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@AgeofHurricane: while bendis is a good writer,he is a poor decision maker.like breaking them apart and putting spider woman nad hawkeye together...

#6 Edited by IllyanaRasputin (1113 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't mind them being broken up. I think there should have been better dialogue when Emma was getting all angry with him and told him it was over. I mean if that's one thing Emma's good for is her dialogue and Bendis kind of just ruined it and made the break up very mediocre. As for her not having telepathy anymore I don't think it's going to stick for that long. I mean they are finding Mutants before Rachel (while she uses Cerebra) and I doubt it's because they're such good investigators.

#7 Posted by Darksider555 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@IllyanaRasputin: well i doubt that her telepahy will be permanatly gone.and your right the breakup was mediocre.and emma is mad at him for stealing her phoenix power but she wanted to destroy the world and start over.Ah.. what am i saying:using AvX as canon is a sin of me.My bad... :(

#8 Posted by Darksider555 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: well... i cant fully answer that but looks wise...he always makes a right choice :)

#9 Posted by Cap10nate (2219 posts) - - Show Bio

After he choked her out, I'd hope that she would hate him. Nothing screams powerful independent woman like going back to him after she is beaten by him.

#10 Posted by NazarethSavage (214 posts) - - Show Bio

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

#11 Posted by God_Spawn (37681 posts) - - Show Bio

I have yet to get the issue today (will later) but based on what you are saying, just because she had a bad reaction doesn't mean she hates him now. She has every right to be pissed (sort of) but she could just be angry. Simple as that.

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#12 Posted by JohnnyGat (1562 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

If they're broken up can Cyke finally hook up with a non telepath? Its starting to seem like a fetish with him.

He should definitely hook up with Frenzy. I found myself rather fond of some of the things Age of X did. Even if there's no apparent reason.

#13 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

Lol at this. But actually you are about right, Bendis gives her an interesting environment that she has never been before to develop some other aspects of her character.

#14 Posted by EnSabahNurX (2314 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyGat said:

@joshmightbe said:

If they're broken up can Cyke finally hook up with a non telepath? Its starting to seem like a fetish with him.

He should definitely hook up with Frenzy. I found myself rather fond of some of the things Age of X did. Even if there's no apparent reason.

I'm still waiting for the frenzy hook up, that was one of the more interesting decision made in that reality. Also miss cyclop's basilisk mask T__T

#15 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1317 posts) - - Show Bio

So emma,s pissed because a part of her has been lost because of an action taken by a person she was close with. Well s... this should be fun.

#16 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Bendis writes a terrible Emma.

#17 Posted by TheCannon (18290 posts) - - Show Bio

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she doesn't deserve it.

Fixed.

#18 Posted by NazarethSavage (214 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she doesn't deserve it.

Not Fixed.

Yup.
#19 Posted by TheCannon (18290 posts) - - Show Bio

@NazarethSavage said:

@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she doesn't deserve it.

Not Fixed.

Nope.

You are correct.

#20 Posted by cameron83 (7185 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy: so what can she do now,just diamond form?

#21 Posted by NazarethSavage (214 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she doesn't deserve it.

Not Fixed.

Yup

You are correct.

I know.
#22 Posted by TheCannon (18290 posts) - - Show Bio

@NazarethSavage said:

@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she doesn't deserve it.

Not Fixed.

Yup

You are correct.

No I'm not.

It's okay.

#23 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL keep up the streak Cyke! She broke up with him because he only likes telepaths, search your heart you know it to be true!

#24 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

@TheCannon said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she doesn't deserve it.

Not Fixed.

Yup

You are correct.

No I'm not.

It's okay.

Knock it off...
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#25 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7282 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

Lol at this. But actually you are about right, Bendis gives her an interesting environment that she has never been before to develop some other aspects of her character.

What ?

#26 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2801 posts) - - Show Bio

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

right on

#27 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2801 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

LOL keep up the streak Cyke! She broke up with him because he only likes telepaths, search your heart you know it to be true!

great now cyclops could go for psylocke, sage or teen jean xp

#28 Posted by TimeLordScience (890 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't quite understand when 3 is supposed to take place? How could it come after 1 when their powers weren't on the fritz then? Even Emma's? Also, wasn't Emma already broken out in 1? That would make this a prequel issue...but then there's the end...raggle fraggle...

#29 Edited by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm more concerned with Scott not even addressing Magneto murdering a guy in front of him. He can't be that far gone.

#30 Posted by Dayvid3 (807 posts) - - Show Bio

Saw the split coming from way off, not for any particular reason. It just seemed like the writers wanted it. Not happy about it though. She seems too irrational for her character

#31 Posted by lorex (954 posts) - - Show Bio

This whole not having powers or not working properly is BS. It has already been established in the Aftermath series that their powers are working, this is just Bendis trying to be cute and provide another source of conflict. As for Emma and Scott not being a couple anymore, again I think this is a case where a new writer wanting to change things up and of course, the first thing to go as always was the relationship. Anytime a couple in comics sees a new creative team shift there almost always seems to be an end to relationships so the new creative people can do what they want. If Bendis really wanted to do something different he could have tried to take a stab at making Emma more interesting while at the same time keeping Scott and Emma together.

#32 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:

@TheCrowbar said:

LOL keep up the streak Cyke! She broke up with him because he only likes telepaths, search your heart you know it to be true!

great now cyclops could go for psylocke, sage or teen jean xp

Already been with Psylocke.

Sage and Teen Jean would be creepy due to the age differences.

I'd love for Madelyne Pryor to come back or Karen Grant...

#33 Posted by arcano_19 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

i think it is a possitive thing, made her grow out of cyclops

#34 Posted by TheRealJeanGrey (127 posts) - - Show Bio

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

I AGREE!

#35 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@AgeofHurricane said:

@doddy said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

Lol at this. But actually you are about right, Bendis gives her an interesting environment that she has never been before to develop some other aspects of her character.

What ?

Losing her TP could provide her a good opportunity to show other aspects of her character which didn’t demonstrated before, say, a less-confident Emma. It brings drama and I like it.

No one would love a character in stais

Btw Bendis just said that:

i have my handle on the character and like those who came before me its going to take her somewhere new. new look, new look on life, new realizations...

the woman has been through some gigantic traumatic things. some have happened to her and some she did to herself. she did some awful things last year. all of this will be examined.

#36 Posted by aaunderoath (165 posts) - - Show Bio

She cheated on him/almost cheated on him multiple times. When she told him Cyke took it like a champ. So now that Cyke gets possessed by a cosmic entity that's possessed people before AND made them do crappy things, all of a sudden he had complete control of his entire self when he stabbed Emma in the back and kill Prof X... yup that makes sense to me ...

#37 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@aaunderoath said:

She cheated on him/almost cheated on him multiple times. When she told him Cyke took it like a champ. So now that Cyke gets possessed by a cosmic entity that's possessed people before AND made them do crappy things, all of a sudden he had complete control of his entire self when he stabbed Emma in the back and kill Prof X... yup that makes sense to me ...

Except for having psi-sex with Namor, during she’s under the PF’s influence, Emma has nenver cheated on Scott.

And not trying to blame anyone, right and wrong aside, I can buy that she's mad at Scott. That’s the huge eruption of her angst, insecurity and anger that accumulated long time; she probably prepared this outburst since she was attacked by Scott.

She understood that Scott was controlled by PF -- she even warned him in AvX that she was about to lose control. She even believed that "may be we do belong in prison" -- she knew what she had done and she knew what the PF's corruption is. She was just angry -- what would you expect to see when a woman first met her ex who attacked her before? IMO that’s more of her emotionally charged responses than rational reactions.

We’d better wait for their conversation when they both cool down, and since Emma and Scott are still in the same team they will definitely have that conversation.

#38 Posted by Ceddsong (44 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's best if we remember that Emma, despite being a strong and singular willed individual is still human. And thus needs to be written so. No one is perfectly rational constantly and after the abuse she's suffered and the betrayal of her most invaluable relationship, she's likely miffed. Remember she sacrificed a great deal for her love and faith in Cyclops. And though she cheated while under the influence of the PF she never went sofar as to attempt to steal Scott's half, instead she was willing to share it. And how many people take being choked by their lover well? It's a shame they're split but this is a hurdle they need to make and there needs to be consequences for how they treated each other. Also, the chance for character development is definitely worth the break-up.

#39 Edited by The_Diamond_Prince (66 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyGat: Agreed. Frenzy and Scott could be interesting, especially since Scott is becoming even more aggressive.

I'm really scared of the way Bendis is writing Emma...Any good writer would relish the chance to give Emma the bitchiest, wittiest, most sophiscated lines they could think of; Bendis would rather have her say "Thanks for the bust out fellas..."? Maybe it was a late night when he was writing her dialogue, I'll try and give him another chance, but I'm worried.

#40 Posted by CerealKiller (161 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont have too much of a problem with the plot, even if i do love scott and emma together and im sad to see them break up, but its the dialogue! 'Fella's', "i'm thinkin'". It just doesnt fit the way i hear her voice in my head. if anything its more the way someone like rogue would talk or something

#41 Posted by time (4966 posts) - - Show Bio

Karma is a bitch people and if Emma is written poorly over the next couples of years, good, she deserves it, she had it far to easy for too long..

@lorex said:

This whole not having powers or not working properly is BS. It has already been established in the Aftermath series that their powers are working, this is just Bendis trying to be cute and provide another source of conflict. As for Emma and Scott not being a couple anymore, again I think this is a case where a new writer wanting to change things up and of course, the first thing to go as always was the relationship. Anytime a couple in comics sees a new creative team shift there almost always seems to be an end to relationships so the new creative people can do what they want. If Bendis really wanted to do something different he could have tried to take a stab at making Emma more interesting while at the same time keeping Scott and Emma together.

I will have to agree with lorex here, messing with there powers is just stupid and instead of breaking them up, he should of work on there relationship. Breaking them up as soon as Jean grey comes back is just wierd. Bendis should of made more of effort on Emma, he should make her more interesting, although I like the way she spoke up to Cyclops.

I understand why Emma is upset with Scott, isn't it her own fault. She stood by him, for too long, she should of walk away ages ago. It's not as if she hasn't made any mistakes, she killed a man, made out with Namor and tied her own people up in chains. I think Cyclops should be angry with her too.

#42 Posted by SUNMAN (7228 posts) - - Show Bio

Bout time. Emma should have left Scott long ago.

Now will see a Storm, Wolverine and Cyclops hook up triangle

#43 Posted by Imperfect (22 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_29: @x_29 said:

Bendis writes a terrible Emma.

He sure do.

#44 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4004 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@doddy said:

@NazarethSavage said:

Whatever Bendis did to Emma..she deserves it.

Lol at this. But actually you are about right, Bendis gives her an interesting environment that she has never been before to develop some other aspects of her character.

What ?

Losing her TP could provide her a good opportunity to show other aspects of her character which didn’t demonstrated before, say, a less-confident Emma. It brings drama and I like it.

No one would love a character in stais

Btw Bendis just said that

i have my handle on the character and like those who came before me its going to take her somewhere new. new look, new look on life, new realizations...

the woman has been through some gigantic traumatic things. some have happened to her and some she did to herself. she did some awful things last year. all of this will be examined.

It didn't bring out any other aspects of her character when she lost it due to the psi wave. Honestly there don't seem to be any other aspects to her character, we've seen everything so far, she can be a bitch, a leader, a teacher that is passionate about her students, and even a sort of loving mother when he daughters were killed by the Phoenix. I think it was strange and out of character to even embrace the Phoenix and not fight it the entire AVX run considering how many times it has turned her life upside down from putting her in a coma, to using her up to killing her 1000 in one to, she swore to get her revenge and then willingly took it into herself when she had her next encounter.

#45 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans:

Emma lost her TP in Generation X, and she really shined in that story.

Would other aspects of her character be developed? I dunno ‘cause that’s Bendis’ job, but since he created this interesting environment to let Emma in, he at least has plans for her.

#46 Posted by God_Spawn (37681 posts) - - Show Bio

@aaunderoath said:

She cheated on him/almost cheated on him multiple times. When she told him Cyke took it like a champ. So now that Cyke gets possessed by a cosmic entity that's possessed people before AND made them do crappy things, all of a sudden he had complete control of his entire self when he stabbed Emma in the back and kill Prof X... yup that makes sense to me ...

She cheated on him once. She's rejected all other people prior to what happened in AvX.

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#47 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4004 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy said:

@LordOfAllHumans:

Emma lost her TP in Generation X, and she really shined in that story.

Would other aspects of her character be developed? I dunno ‘cause that’s Bendis’ job, but since he created this interesting environment to let Emma in, he at least has plans for her.

Yes due to the psi wave, but she didn't seem any different than she normally was except she couldn't read minds anymore. Marvel as of late does not seem to be developing aspects of characters, they seem to just be changing them completely. It was strange that a woman that was struggling with survivors guilt due to Genosha didn't use the 'Resurrection" force to bring back her beloved students (including the Hellions) or her dead daughters. At this time she had the power and it wasn't burning through her like last time, she could have found a way to confront Jean for what happened in Warsong, but unfortunately a large portion of her fans only really like her because "the Mean Girl rich socialite" mentality is in now.

#48 Posted by doddy (251 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@doddy said:

@LordOfAllHumans:

Emma lost her TP in Generation X, and she really shined in that story.

Would other aspects of her character be developed? I dunno ‘cause that’s Bendis’ job, but since he created this interesting environment to let Emma in, he at least has plans for her.

Yes due to the psi wave, but she didn't seem any different than she normally was except she couldn't read minds anymore. Marvel as of late does not seem to be developing aspects of characters, they seem to just be changing them completely. It was strange that a woman that was struggling with survivors guilt due to Genosha didn't use the 'Resurrection" force to bring back her beloved students (including the Hellions) or her dead daughters. At this time she had the power and it wasn't burning through her like last time, she could have found a way to confront Jean for what happened in Warsong, but unfortunately a large portion of her fans only really like her because "the Mean Girl rich socialite" mentality is in now.

Have I missed something? ‘cause her last appearance in ANX #3 told readers that she lost her TP. How do you know she’s not any different than normally? We need to wait to see what really happens. It’s even possible that she’s lying about her losing power.

As a ridiculously huge Emma fan, I don’t care about her powers that much. I love her TP and diamond form of course, but what attracts me is her character, not powers. Now there is a good opportunity to show other aspects of her that has never demonstrated before, I’m happy.

But well, whether or not Bendis handles that well is another thing. You know, Bendis.

As for powers… Magneto is facing the same problem:

UNCANNY X-MEN #3
BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (W)
CHRIS BACHALO (A/C)
Variant Cover by PHIL NOTO
• Everything has changed for Magneto in the last few weeks. Can he prove he is still the Master of Magnetism?
• Cyclops and the rest of his crew take the revolution on the road gathering up more new mutants.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

#49 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4004 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@doddy said:

@LordOfAllHumans:

Emma lost her TP in Generation X, and she really shined in that story.

Would other aspects of her character be developed? I dunno ‘cause that’s Bendis’ job, but since he created this interesting environment to let Emma in, he at least has plans for her.

Yes due to the psi wave, but she didn't seem any different than she normally was except she couldn't read minds anymore. Marvel as of late does not seem to be developing aspects of characters, they seem to just be changing them completely. It was strange that a woman that was struggling with survivors guilt due to Genosha didn't use the 'Resurrection" force to bring back her beloved students (including the Hellions) or her dead daughters. At this time she had the power and it wasn't burning through her like last time, she could have found a way to confront Jean for what happened in Warsong, but unfortunately a large portion of her fans only really like her because "the Mean Girl rich socialite" mentality is in now.

Have I missed something? ‘cause her last appearance in ANX #3 told readers that she lost her TP. How do you know she’s not any different than normally? We need to wait to see what really happens. It’s even possible that she’s lying about her losing power.

As a ridiculously huge Emma fan, I don’t care about her powers that much. I love her TP and diamond form of course, but what attracts me is her character, not powers. Now there is a good opportunity to show other aspects of her that has never demonstrated before, I’m happy.

But well, whether or not Bendis handles that well is another thing. You know, Bendis.

As for powers… Magneto is facing the same problem:

UNCANNY X-MEN #3
BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS (W)
CHRIS BACHALO (A/C)
Variant Cover by PHIL NOTO
• Everything has changed for Magneto in the last few weeks. Can he prove he is still the Master of Magnetism?
• Cyclops and the rest of his crew take the revolution on the road gathering up more new mutants.
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99

I'm talking about when she lost her telepathy in Gen X due to the psi wave. My point is that she has already lost her telepathy and there wasn't some profound alteration to her personality, so why would this time be different. Just wouldn't make much sense for there to be something there to develop the second time around if nothing like that happened before.

#50 Posted by No_Name_ (17403 posts) - - Show Bio

Good. Now she can get with a real man. Like Namor.

(HA)

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