AM I THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH THIS?!
Emma Frost
Character » Emma Frost appears in 6154 issues.
Emma Frost is a fictional character originating from Marvel Comics. Originally starting off as a super villain and enemy of the X-Men, during which she was the White Queen of the Hellfire Club, Emma Frost is a powerful mutant telepath who can transform herself into organic diamond. She has become a prominent member of the X-Men. A gifted teacher, Emma is renowned for her beauty, wit, and sense of fashion.
She's now a confirmed Omega...............
"Damn it now i am going to have to pick this up and this just chaps my ass to see this happen "She just says it in a straight forward statement. She's calling out Mystique, and just mentions it. It has nothing to do with the plot. She confirms Xavier as well.
"@dreadmaster said:"Damn it now i am going to have to pick this up and this just chaps my ass to see this happen "She just says it in a straight forward statement. She's calling out Mystique, and just mentions it. It has nothing to do with the plot. She confirms Xavier as well. "
Who wrote it?
"@dreadmaster said:" @Darkchild said:DarkXmen dont have their own comic yet. Which is why im furthering the question you answered""What Utopia issue is it?1 or 2"He just said Dark X-Men "
the first issue doesn't come out till July 8th and the preview is only 9 pages and doesn't show emma at all
that's not Dark X-men it's Uncanny and she's says "Omega Class Telepaths" not "Omega Mutants"....big difference
" @Buckshot said:Precisely the reason why I hate this with everything in my soul." I don't get why it would matter in any case. "People use stuff like this in the battle forums. You should realize that by now. We already have an Emma (Omega) vs. Xavier (Omega) thread. "
" @White Mage said:MATT FRACTION"@dreadmaster said:Who wrote it? ""Damn it now i am going to have to pick this up and this just chaps my ass to see this happen "She just says it in a straight forward statement. She's calling out Mystique, and just mentions it. It has nothing to do with the plot. She confirms Xavier as well. "
I don't think she meant that she was an Omega Mutant just that she was an Omega Telepath....I see a difference in the 2 titles
" @dreadmaster said:Burn him at the stake." @White Mage said:MATT FRACTION ""@dreadmaster said:Who wrote it? ""Damn it now i am going to have to pick this up and this just chaps my ass to see this happen "She just says it in a straight forward statement. She's calling out Mystique, and just mentions it. It has nothing to do with the plot. She confirms Xavier as well. "
" @pixelized said:Please & Thank You" @dreadmaster said:Burn him at the stake. "" @White Mage said:MATT FRACTION ""@dreadmaster said:Who wrote it? ""Damn it now i am going to have to pick this up and this just chaps my ass to see this happen "She just says it in a straight forward statement. She's calling out Mystique, and just mentions it. It has nothing to do with the plot. She confirms Xavier as well. "
"I don't think she meant that she was an Omega Mutant just that she was an Omega Telepath....I see a difference in the 2 titles "
I was thing a similar thing.
" @danhimself said:How could there be a difference?"I don't think she meant that she was an Omega Mutant just that she was an Omega Telepath....I see a difference in the 2 titles "I was thing a similar thing. "
Yes but it doesn't actually change anything. Their psychic feats don't get +50 holy damage now. Calling them "omega" doesn't make them better. Other than the fact that it's just a silly label, the label itself (in their word) signifies no increase in ability. Anyone who is an omega always was, you just didn't know it.
" Yes but it doesn't actually change anything. Their psychic feats don't get +50 holy damage now. Calling them "omega" doesn't make them better. Other than the fact that it's just a silly label, the label itself (in their word) signifies no increase in ability. Anyone who is an omega always was, you just didn't know it. "For me, it takes away from her past feats.
" Yes but it doesn't actually change anything. Their psychic feats don't get +50 holy damage now. Calling them "omega" doesn't make them better. Other than the fact that it's just a silly label, the label itself (in their word) signifies no increase in ability. Anyone who is an omega always was, you just didn't know it. "Agreed. I mean look at Iceman. He is always getting beat by non-omegas.
" Isn't Omega just a title? "Correct.
" @Buckshot said:Why?" Yes but it doesn't actually change anything. Their psychic feats don't get +50 holy damage now. Calling them "omega" doesn't make them better. Other than the fact that it's just a silly label, the label itself (in their word) signifies no increase in ability. Anyone who is an omega always was, you just didn't know it. "For me, it takes away from her past feats. "
It was one thing to see some (I think the name is Alpha) Alpha-level mutant with vast powers, that stood out mainly because of her excellent skills with said powers. But thinking of her with unlimited potential in the psychic field takes away from the "Underdog" aspect of her character.@White Mage said:"" @Buckshot said:Why?" Yes but it doesn't actually change anything. Their psychic feats don't get +50 holy damage now. Calling them "omega" doesn't make them better. Other than the fact that it's just a silly label, the label itself (in their word) signifies no increase in ability. Anyone who is an omega always was, you just didn't know it. "For me, it takes away from her past feats. "
Xavier being Omega-class is also annoying for me.
Also, it's the fact that characters with small hints of vast power suddenly being declared Omega just so that they can get a popularity/importance boost. If Magneto were declared Omega-class, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Everyone has seen the powers he possesses/uses, and, more importantly, obvious showings of what he can do with them. Emma always stayed at a Cyclops-ish level of power. She was powerful, but had obvious weaknesses. But now, she's omega-class, and yet, no one ever even hinted at it. It's ridiculous.
Emma could have been like, trying to scare Mystique or something? - but saying she was an omega telepath
I don't know
" Emma could have been like, trying to scare Mystique or something? - but saying she was an omega telepathI don't know "That's not fear quote. It's a backup statement. "Omega-level telepaths can sniff each other out". She's saying Xavier is so powerful (and she is too) to where they would recognize each other rather easily. Thus, her being able to call out Mystique.
come on people!
you know Emma...she likes to pretend.
She likes to pretend she is blonde when she is not
She likes to pretend she is a queen when she is not
She likes to pretend she likes black langerie when she in fact she doesn't want to wear one in the first place ;-P
so let her be dillusional that she is really an omega telepath....
" @pixelized said:WOW Y do ppl hate him so much?" @dreadmaster said:Burn him at the stake. "" @White Mage said:MATT FRACTION ""@dreadmaster said:Who wrote it? ""Damn it now i am going to have to pick this up and this just chaps my ass to see this happen "She just says it in a straight forward statement. She's calling out Mystique, and just mentions it. It has nothing to do with the plot. She confirms Xavier as well. "
I'm agreeing with the Posters that think that theres a Difference between Omega class Telepaths and Omega Level mutants.
Probably an Omega Class telepath is a Telepath that has Mastered the use and field of TP basically trained and developed their abilities to a masterfull degree, Which would make people Like Emma and Xavier omega class and people like Karma, the Cuckoo's and Blindfold who have yet to master the art lesser classes
it's the only Logical explanation, the writers really can't be claiming that she is an Omega level Telepathic mutant considering those guys have pulled Feats like stop time with their TP, destroyed Matter at a thought, Thoughts at the speed of light and Planet wide mind comunication (Without cerebro)
"come on people!you know Emma...she likes to pretend.She likes to pretend she is blonde when she is notShe likes to pretend she is a queen when she is notShe likes to pretend she likes black langerie when she in fact she doesn't want to wear one in the first place ;-Pso let her be dillusional that she is really an omega telepath...."
My thoughts exactly, honestly, i love emma but i think she has some serious mentel issues that need to be worked out LOL
"I'm agreeing with the Posters that think that theres a Difference between Omega class Telepaths and Omega Level mutants. Probably an Omega Class telepath is a Telepath that has Mastered the use and field of TP basically trained and developed their abilities to a masterfull degree, Which would make people Like Emma and Xavier omega class and people like Karma, the Cuckoo's and Blindfold who have yet to master the art lesser classesit's the only Logical explanation, the writers really can't be claiming that she is an Omega level Telepathic mutant considering those guys have pulled Feats like stop time with their TP, destroyed Matter at a thought, Thoughts at the speed of light and Planet wide mind comunication (Without cerebro) "....................................................again, if we go with this B.S., then there is now a window for omega-level everything. It's stupid as hell, and to make matters worse, she was somewhat clear with what she was talking about. So, again, I hate Fraction.
"@G-w-D said:"I'm agreeing with the Posters that think that theres a Difference between Omega class Telepaths and Omega Level mutants. Probably an Omega Class telepath is a Telepath that has Mastered the use and field of TP basically trained and developed their abilities to a masterfull degree, Which would make people Like Emma and Xavier omega class and people like Karma, the Cuckoo's and Blindfold who have yet to master the art lesser classesit's the only Logical explanation, the writers really can't be claiming that she is an Omega level Telepathic mutant considering those guys have pulled Feats like stop time with their TP, destroyed Matter at a thought, Thoughts at the speed of light and Planet wide mind comunication (Without cerebro) "....................................................again, if we go with this B.S., then there is now a window for omega-level everything. It's stupid as hell, and to make matters worse, she was somewhat clear with what she was talking about. So, again, I hate Fraction. "
It's Not BS the concept of Omega level could be a good one, It's Just the writers don't respect it or Understand it even
" @White Mage said:"@G-w-D said:It's Not BS the concept of Omega level could be a good one, It's Just the writers don't respect it or Understand it even ""I'm agreeing with the Posters that think that theres a Difference between Omega class Telepaths and Omega Level mutants. Probably an Omega Class telepath is a Telepath that has Mastered the use and field of TP basically trained and developed their abilities to a masterfull degree, Which would make people Like Emma and Xavier omega class and people like Karma, the Cuckoo's and Blindfold who have yet to master the art lesser classesit's the only Logical explanation, the writers really can't be claiming that she is an Omega level Telepathic mutant considering those guys have pulled Feats like stop time with their TP, destroyed Matter at a thought, Thoughts at the speed of light and Planet wide mind comunication (Without cerebro) "....................................................again, if we go with this B.S., then there is now a window for omega-level everything. It's stupid as hell, and to make matters worse, she was somewhat clear with what she was talking about. So, again, I hate Fraction. "
Agreed. As others have mentioned, I just dont think the the word should be used to describe Emma. It implies that she has a crap load of raw power in terms of telepathy and most of her past feats have involved her advanced skills in the use of her telepathy, not her raw power. I think it undermines how capable and skilled she is because people read that and assume she is on the same power scale as Xavier. She may be very advanced in terms of her skill, but when it comes to raw psychic power, Xavier is supposed to be ahead of her.
Now, because of the way psychic powers work, she could still probably "sniff" out Xavier, just because of how powerful he is, I feel something like that should have been said instead, but thats just me. I love Fraction and his continuity changes :/
I can't believe this is even being debated.
I like Fraction, enough, but he has been pulling somethings out from the sky.
I initially thought when I read the comic that she was referring to Michael Pointer who if I am not mistaken is confirmed to be an Omega class mutant much like Gabriel Summers who also absorbed a massive dose of Mutant Energies Wanda unleashed.
I love everything Emma but she is NO Omega neither is Charles thou he does beat her in power for the Alpha status that they share. That being said she is very skilled in the use of her TP to get the drop on Xavier and outmaneuver Rachel who is an Omega but doesn't have the skills Emma has acquired over time.
I also agree that by classifying her as such it not only proves that the writer and editor are not paying attention or lack knowledge of the characters but that it takes away from Frost.
Quentin Quire is called an Omega level telepath, and we know this is because he is an omega level mutant, not because of any skill level he has.
People are getting annoyed because endsong pretty much confirmed that most the Xmen present (including Emma) are not omega anything."
NO not definatly, You say that QQ was proof that an Omega class telepath is an Omega level mutant, you're forgetting that QQ a powerfull telepath not only was he a Confirmed Omega but he was also a trained Telepath by Xavier himself
So it's Stll possible that what Emma meant when she called herself and Xavier a Omega class telepath is that they are masters of TP it could be the mutant equivilent of getting a Dotorate in aBranch of learning
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