Ranking the Telepaths

#1 Posted by LordStoop (514 posts) - - Show Bio

Rank these telepaths on telepathy alone.

Sinister
Psylocke
Emma Frost
Charles Xavier

they are:

Mr. Sinister

Psylocke

Emma Frost

Charles Xavier

Exodus

Rachel Summers

and Mindee Chucoo

#2 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

Ummm based on what, power,skill?

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#3 Posted by Redletter (1537 posts) - - Show Bio

Number 1 Charles Xavier Professor X in both telepathic power level experience & skill in using it only weakness ( His personality morality & ethics prevent him from doing half the things Emma frost does with her Telepathy to people who annoy her before her first cup of coffee in the morning)

Number 2 in this list is a very close tie with Emma frost Rachel summers & Psylocke But Emma Frost wins it by a small margin the reason is that Emma frost has the most training & experience in using telepathy offensively and/or defensively throughout most of her life Emma frost has been telepathic. Psylocke is not in her original body or using her original powers so i would suggest a learning curve disadvantage there for her. Rachel summers may be a more powerful telepath but lacks skills knowledge & experience in comparison to Emma. Plus for a time (when she was evil) Emma frost Explored every Telepathic morally reprehensible avenue in the cityscape of the mind so she knows her way around a Temporal lobe or two

Number 3 Rachel Summers Daughter of Gene Grey & Scott summers from an alternate reality basically the female version of Nathaniel/Cable Summers has been possessed by the Phoenix one day she may even surpass Charles Xavier potentially according to one of the worlds best specialists of mutant genetics Mr Sinister for example The Summers bloodline obsession

Number 4 Psylocke simply becuase she has had the most real life training in telepathic combat & has mmade it back alive after winning

Number 5 The Mindee Cuckoos a stab in the dark as she is part of a collective of cuckoos when together make them more powerful then Emma Frost

Number Sinister 6 the master of subtle manipulation brain washing clone reprogramming

Exodus 7 Apparently you only need to make a successful attack of his ego in front of others to beat him this fluctuating power level through other people leaves him wide open to attack. This & his mental weakness lack of willpower weak character & mental instability make him a poor telepath

#4 Posted by Sir_Deadpool (461 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redletter: sinister really on number 6 on this? coukd you please explain why? would really like to kno why :) just curious no bad intentions

#5 Edited by Edamame (27936 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sir_Deadpool said:

@Redletter: sinister really on number 6 on this? coukd you please explain why? would really like to kno why :) just curious no bad intentions

Yeah, I am not so sure about that, either. It was my understanding that Exodus, Mr. Sinister and Emma Frost were all roughly on the same level of telepathic skill and raw power (Exodus being the one with more potential due to his "psionic vampirism").

Furthermore, Mr. Sinister is certainly above Psylocke. I even have scans showing them engaging each other in telepathic combat, and Sinister had the upper-hand.

#6 Posted by Sir_Deadpool (461 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@Sir_Deadpool said:

@Redletter: sinister really on number 6 on this? coukd you please explain why? would really like to kno why :) just curious no bad intentions

Yeah, I am not so sure about that, either. It was my understanding that Exodus, Mr. Sinister and Emma Frost were all roughly on the same level of telepathic skill and raw power (Exodus being the one with more potential due to his "psionic vampirism").

Furthermore, Mr. Sinister is certainly above Psylocke. I even have scans showing them engaging each other in telepathic combat, and Sinister had the upper-hand.

jep agreee. he could also be on number 3 in my opinion. charles and exodus would just be above. emma on the same level. sinister has taken out emma frosts telpathic abilities in battle and emma did too with sinister (not sure hich comic it was)

#7 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: Well Emma did stalemate Exodus but I still don't believe he couldn't access his other powers.

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#8 Posted by lorex (945 posts) - - Show Bio

I would rate Exodus a bit higher and while he is dead, Cable in those moments when he could access his powers was very powerful.

Also no one mentioned the Shadow King.

#9 Posted by Edamame (27936 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@Edamame: Well Emma did stalemate Exodus but I still don't believe he couldn't access his other powers.

Yes, but Emma Frost couldn't use anything other than her telepathy, either. She needed Dust's help to take Exodus down.

It is also possible that Exodus could have used his ability to absorb the psionic energy that Emma Frost was emitting later on in the battle.

#10 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: Yeah, I'm just saying he was stalemated, but I disagree as in he couldn't use his telekinesis, he has the resistance to not get over powered in an instant and he has been able to use both powers in conjunction, I think he did it to Xavier???, Anyways just my take on that fight, it was either WIS or CIS on his part that he could't resist long enough to use something else to gain the upper hand. It's like if Dust didn't intervene, he would've just stood there locked in a battle with her til one just said f this.

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#11 Posted by Edamame (27936 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: I seem to recall Exodus' fight with Xavier. Wasn't that when Exodus tried to kill Magneto?

#12 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: I don't remember off the top of my head, sorry dude.

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#13 Posted by jhazzroucher (15049 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Shadowcat should be on top. Then Martian Manhunter.

#14 Posted by Mercy_ (92431 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

I think Shadowcat should be on top. Then Martian Manhunter.

Neither of those are actually on the list. And Shadowcat isn't a telepath...

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#15 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sir_Deadpool said:

@Edamame said:

@Sir_Deadpool said:

@Redletter: sinister really on number 6 on this? coukd you please explain why? would really like to kno why :) just curious no bad intentions

Yeah, I am not so sure about that, either. It was my understanding that Exodus, Mr. Sinister and Emma Frost were all roughly on the same level of telepathic skill and raw power (Exodus being the one with more potential due to his "psionic vampirism").

Furthermore, Mr. Sinister is certainly above Psylocke. I even have scans showing them engaging each other in telepathic combat, and Sinister had the upper-hand.

jep agreee. he could also be on number 3 in my opinion. charles and exodus would just be above. emma on the same level. sinister has taken out emma frosts telpathic abilities in battle and emma did too with sinister (not sure hich comic it was)

Sinister only had the win because of Pixie's call to Emma.

And Original Psylocke was nothing, I don't understand what's with all the hype. She couldn't even take on Sinister, only for a short amount of time before he knocked her to the floor. And she looked mostly in agony while doing so in the process.

#16 Posted by jhazzroucher (15049 posts) - - Show Bio

The Dark Huntress, I mean Shadow King. sorry

#17 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: He's not on the list either.

#18 Posted by Redletter (1537 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sir_Deadpool:

Well ... I had 6 reasons I could think of as to why he wasn't number 6. I placed Sinister at number 6 because

1/ he keeps getting killed & defeated by telepaths who see through his hi jinks shenanigans & all round whoop lah' .

2/ He is not originally a mutant telepath but one of artificial origin made so by apocalypse using celestial tech to genetically engineer this, so this means to me that telepathy does not come natural to him. ( there's a reason the celestial's left the potential for mutant-ism in the genes rather then instantly upgrade everyone maybe the human body needs time to adjust evolve to it naturally for the best effect?)

3/ Although he is of great age & experience he has not gotten the results from his telepathic attacks you would expect from a telepath who has lived for life times, this tells me that their may be some underlying problem to his fine or long term control.

4/ He makes & has a hell of lot of back up clones of all his servants I have to ask why? does he lose control of them a lot maybe?

5/ It's seems to me that if he was such a powerful telepath he would not need to make clones for anything but experimentation. But to just enslave people instead, wipe their minds put his program in then walk away

6/ Sinister has got some serious mental health issues overconfidence O.C.D ( keeps cloning the same people whats up with that?) paranoia (how many back up bodies does he have?) feelings of inadequacy (His search for Mutant superiority his dream, yet he himself is just human) and so on. These Mental health problems & issues like these have been mentioned time & time again in comic books to leave people open to telepathic assault & manipulation

I guess that's it for the moment the only person I can think who has a weaker grip on reality then sinister is Exodus

#19 Edited by THUNDERBOLT30 (9972 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering powers & skill showings with TP...

Charles Xavier

Emma Frost/Exodus

Mr. Sinister/Rachel Summers

Psylocke

Mindee Cuckoo

EDITED

#20 Posted by Sir_Deadpool (461 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redletter: at first: in comics, most of the time villains always loose. There is a diffrence between the power level of heroes and the power levels of vllains

2) i agree with you but now he is a telepath so we should put him in the ranking like these others too

3) im not sure why this influences the ranking? please explain to me maybe i just don't get it

4) because he does not want to fight for himself. has nothing to do with his power he is just very vain lol

5) same point as 4

6) agree with you on that point, too. but maybe the other telepaths have also handicaps (really dont know do not want to strike you on that point)

all in all i still think he should be ranked way higher. and please i really have no bad intentions just want to argue about. and excuse me for my language)

#21 Posted by Edamame (27936 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Considering powers & skill showings with TP...

Emma Frost

Mr. Sinister/Exodus/Rachel Summers

Quick question (if you don't mind): Didn't Exodus stalemate Emma Frost in Messiah Complex? Wouldn't that make them telepathic equals?

#22 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (9972 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Considering powers & skill showings with TP...

Emma Frost

Mr. Sinister/Exodus/Rachel Summers

Quick question (if you don't mind): Didn't Exodus stalemate Emma Frost in Messiah Complex? Wouldn't that make them telepathic equals?

Your right. I forgot about that one....amending post :-/...

#23 Posted by Edamame (27936 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30: No worries.

#24 Posted by Redletter (1537 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sir_Deadpool:1/ sure there is i just think sinister hasn't shown he has the power base or talent for it

2/ I think the fact he was not born a telepath has a Hugh effect. A born artist or a born musician with a natural talent unique to them (& this is where we enter nature vs nurture territory a whole super powered debate in it's self ) is at a biological advantage from birth vs the person who just learns to Draw. It's why i think a natural born mutant Telepath a product of evolution has a massive advantage. I don't need to drive this point home it's self explanatory

3/ You would think! that after all the years he has been alive. He would use his ability better that other telepaths would be like children to him in skill & experience

This is not the case so i refer you to number 2 again as a possible reason he lacks fine control of his telepathy in comparison to others

4? Sinister has a Victorian Work ethic those guys made the Japanese workaholics look lazy !!! nuh uh! he's built how many secret labs & clone factories, made how many scientific break through s, Sinister lazy! Vain. The clones Sinister makes are blunt weapons aimed at making a dent while he will use a subtler tactic.

Yea he's totally vain. wasn't it Apocalypse that chose his new form for him? Pale pasty Creepy goth dude & the guy's got a name that would test the gag reflex of the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang

I don't think Sinister s all that vain he just has to much fun freaking people out like a mutated Joker who fell into a vat of radio active liquid pedophile

Have to admit you do make some interesting points it's hard to keep track of power levels when so many writers keep changing the rules

#25 Posted by BigTPotts (123 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redletter said:

@Sir_Deadpool:

Well ... I had 6 reasons I could think of as to why he wasn't number 6. I placed Sinister at number 6 because

1/ he keeps getting killed & defeated by telepaths who see through his hi jinks shenanigans & all round whoop lah' .

2/ He is not originally a mutant telepath but one of artificial origin made so by apocalypse using celestial tech to genetically engineer this, so this means to me that telepathy does not come natural to him. ( there's a reason the celestial's left the potential for mutant-ism in the genes rather then instantly upgrade everyone maybe the human body needs time to adjust evolve to it naturally for the best effect?)

3/ Although he is of great age & experience he has not gotten the results from his telepathic attacks you would expect from a telepath who has lived for life times, this tells me that their may be some underlying problem to his fine or long term control.

4/ He makes & has a hell of lot of back up clones of all his servants I have to ask why? does he lose control of them a lot maybe?

5/ It's seems to me that if he was such a powerful telepath he would not need to make clones for anything but experimentation. But to just enslave people instead, wipe their minds put his program in then walk away

6/ Sinister has got some serious mental health issues overconfidence O.C.D ( keeps cloning the same people whats up with that?) paranoia (how many back up bodies does he have?) feelings of inadequacy (His search for Mutant superiority his dream, yet he himself is just human) and so on. These Mental health problems & issues like these have been mentioned time & time again in comic books to leave people open to telepathic assault & manipulation

I guess that's it for the moment the only person I can think who has a weaker grip on reality then sinister is Exodus

you just owned everyone else!

#26 Posted by BigTPotts (123 posts) - - Show Bio

@Edamame: but if she can beat xavier & xavier can beat exodus... well i am not going to spell it out for you

#27 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigTPotts said:

@Edamame: but if she can beat xavier & xavier can beat exodus... well i am not going to spell it out for you

She can't beat Xavier straight up.

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#28 Posted by Sir_Deadpool (461 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redletter said:

@Sir_Deadpool:1/ sure there is i just think sinister hasn't shown he has the power base or talent for it

2/ I think the fact he was not born a telepath has a Hugh effect. A born artist or a born musician with a natural talent unique to them (& this is where we enter nature vs nurture territory a whole super powered debate in it's self ) is at a biological advantage from birth vs the person who just learns to Draw. It's why i think a natural born mutant Telepath a product of evolution has a massive advantage. I don't need to drive this point home it's self explanatory

3/ You would think! that after all the years he has been alive. He would use his ability better that other telepaths would be like children to him in skill & experience

This is not the case so i refer you to number 2 again as a possible reason he lacks fine control of his telepathy in comparison to others

4? Sinister has a Victorian Work ethic those guys made the Japanese workaholics look lazy !!! nuh uh! he's built how many secret labs & clone factories, made how many scientific break through s, Sinister lazy! Vain. The clones Sinister makes are blunt weapons aimed at making a dent while he will use a subtler tactic.

Yea he's totally vain. wasn't it Apocalypse that chose his new form for him? Pale pasty Creepy goth dude & the guy's got a name that would test the gag reflex of the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang

I don't think Sinister s all that vain he just has to much fun freaking people out like a mutated Joker who fell into a vat of radio active liquid pedophile

Have to admit you do make some interesting points it's hard to keep track of power levels when so many writers keep changing the rules

totally agree with you know! your last sentence comes from the bottom of my heart too. you made good points i did so think thats it.lets see how mr sinister is in the new uncanny x-men series

#29 Posted by unicornpuncher (418 posts) - - Show Bio

I added cuckoo hive, but my list would look something like this:

1. Cuckoo Hive

2. Charles Xavier

3. Mr. Sinister

4. Emma Frost

5. Exodus

6. Rachel Summers

7. Psylocke

8. Mindee (or any other single) Cuckoo

#30 Posted by Thunderscream (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

isn't this all just arbitrary though? all of them have different strengths and weaknesses and their level of power varies by how much stress they're under or pretty much on how much the writer at the time likes or dislikes them.

#31 Posted by AtraCruor (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@Charmix
Original Psylocke could "punch" through Juggernaut's helmet with a telepathic blast.  Back then that was pretty big
#32 Posted by Charmix (11958 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtraCruor said:

@Charmix: Original Psylocke could "punch" through Juggernaut's helmet with a telepathic blast. Back then that was pretty big

I'm well aware of her Psycho-Blast. Still doesn't impress me, when other telepath has shown more incredible feats than her. Xavier did the same to a sentinel.

#33 Posted by BigTPotts (123 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BigTPotts said:

@Edamame: but if she can beat xavier & xavier can beat exodus... well i am not going to spell it out for you

She can't beat Xavier straight up.

she doesnt need to

#34 Posted by God_Spawn (37293 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigTPotts said:

@god_spawn said:

@BigTPotts said:

@Edamame: but if she can beat xavier & xavier can beat exodus... well i am not going to spell it out for you

She can't beat Xavier straight up.

she doesnt need to

...Yeah technically she does since this is rank the telepaths. Using psychic prep against a better, stronger and more experienced telepath doesn't count. You're acting as if she is superior to Xavier when she isn't anyway aside from looks.

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