Ok, I think it's safe to say Emma Will die at the end of AvX

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#1 Edited by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

We've seen the extent what she's willing to do.

Teaser Image AvX#10

#2 Edited by Rumble Man (11073 posts) - - Show Bio

#3 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

#4 Posted by ArtGamer (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

#5 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@RainEffect said:

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

Nope, but Marvel seems to be going down the route to make Scott smell like roses at the end of this event.

#6 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13683 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott died once or twice.

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#7 Posted by Dernman (15808 posts) - - Show Bio

Has she ever died before?

#8 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

Once in SI:Tie-in and Scott had the Cuckoos bring her back.

#9 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@RainEffect said:

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

Nope, but Marvel seems to be going down the route to make Scott smell like roses at the end of this event.

So smelling like roses means having him be arrested. Okay...

#10 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

Everybody dies. Especially in Marvel.

#11 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@RainEffect said:

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

Nope, but Marvel seems to be going down the route to make Scott smell like roses at the end of this event.

So smelling like roses means having him be arrested. Okay...

It's a variant cover, you know what that is right? (just like a bunch of Variant covers that in AvX, such as Beast vs Luke Cage.. that didn't happen now did it)

It can be Namor who gets arrested for his attack on wakanda ever thought of that.

#12 Posted by Romulus9000 (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@RainEffect said:

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

Nope, but Marvel seems to be going down the route to make Scott smell like roses at the end of this event.

I think it is still entirely possible for scott to die. Remember, it's Alex Summers who is going to be in Uncanny Avengers, is there a reason Alex is stepping up to the plate like this? May have something to do with Scott post-avx. But who knows, that's hardly enough to go by.

I hope that emma dies. She has always been a cheap "anti-jean" replacement, at least for me. She works much better as a minor villain who crops up from time to time. I hope she dies and Jean comes back. At least for a little while.

#13 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@RainEffect said:

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

Nope, but Marvel seems to be going down the route to make Scott smell like roses at the end of this event.

So smelling like roses means having him be arrested. Okay...

It's a variant cover, you know what that is right? (just like a bunch of Variant covers that in AvX, such as Beast vs Luke Cage.. that didn't happen now did it)

It can be Namor who gets arrested for his attack on wakanda ever thought of that.

Just saying that a lot of Cyke haters think Marvel loves him, while a lot of Cyke fanboys think Marvel hates him. There is a middle ground.

#14 Posted by Mercy_ (91881 posts) - - Show Bio

Fuuuuuuuuuuu

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#15 Edited by Death Certificate (5408 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

#16 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

#17 Posted by TDK_1997 (15097 posts) - - Show Bio

I still don't think that she will die even after what she did in AvX #9 and what she is still willing to do.

#18 Posted by broo1232 (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

I still don't think that she will die even after what she did in AvX #9 and what she is still willing to do.

What did she do?

#19 Posted by BatWatch (3087 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't know AVX was still happening.

#20 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@Romulus9000 : Jean is coming back but from the past and is here to stay.

#21 Posted by TDK_1997 (15097 posts) - - Show Bio

@broo1232 said:

@TDK_1997 said:

I still don't think that she will die even after what she did in AvX #9 and what she is still willing to do.

What did she do?

She killed a guy that was having dinner with his family because he ran through a mutant back in the 80's and said that nothing is hidden now from her and that nobody will get away.

#22 Edited by Romulus9000 (377 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079: That makes me so happy i could kiss you! But i wont because it's the internet and i could catch a virus. (ha!)

#23 Posted by The Stegman (26064 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope she dies, it'll make the X men a little less unbearable.

#24 Posted by Lvenger (21239 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't make out that teaser image well enough. What's Emma doing?

#25 Edited by Cap10nate (2737 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

@broo1232 said:

@TDK_1997 said:

I still don't think that she will die even after what she did in AvX #9 and what she is still willing to do.

What did she do?

She killed a guy that was having dinner with his family because he ran through a mutant back in the 80's and said that nothing is hidden now from her and that nobody will get away.

And that was only with the little extra power from Namor. Now that Piotr and Magik are done too, she my go completely crazy with the extra power.

@Lvenger said:

I can't make out that teaser image well enough. What's Emma doing?

It looks like she is floating above the other mutants who are kneeling before her. None look too happy so it is most likely forced.

#26 Posted by Lvenger (21239 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cap10nate: Wow I guess absolute power corrupts absolutely. Thanks for the outline!

#27 Posted by God_Spawn (38366 posts) - - Show Bio

It isn't a safe bet to say anything just yet. There are still 3 issues left and we still have the big fight left and ending with something "big" supposedly happening. A single image from the next issue while 2 remain after isn't enough to bank on at all.

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#28 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

#29 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

He's done nothing wrong, but you want him to burn and think that Marvel has a bias towards him and will make him come out of this looking perfect.

#30 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

He's done nothing wrong, but you want him to burn and think that Marvel has a bias towards him and will make him come out of this looking perfect.

Are you saying it's not looking like that right now?

#31 Edited by Blood1991 (8082 posts) - - Show Bio

Death is a better alternative than becoming the next Dark Phoenix plot device......

#32 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

He's done nothing wrong, but you want him to burn and think that Marvel has a bias towards him and will make him come out of this looking perfect.

Are you saying it's not looking like that right now?

Yes, that's exactly what I've been saying the past few comments. In AvX, Cyclops isn't being portrayed as someone who's perfect and won't suffer any consequences afterwards. The only reason you and others who hate him think he's being written immaculately is because he's isn't being treated poorly or being buried like you would like him to.

#33 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

He's done nothing wrong, but you want him to burn and think that Marvel has a bias towards him and will make him come out of this looking perfect.

Are you saying it's not looking like that right now?

Yes, that's exactly what I've been saying the past few comments. In AvX, Cyclops isn't being portrayed as someone who's perfect and won't suffer any consequences afterwards. The only reason you and others who hate him think he's being written immaculately is because he's isn't being treated poorly or being buried like you would like him to.

No, cause it isn't going that way. Explain what he's done wrong, which I asked earlier, Stating he has and not pointing it out doesn't really work.

#34 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

He's done nothing wrong, but you want him to burn and think that Marvel has a bias towards him and will make him come out of this looking perfect.

Are you saying it's not looking like that right now?

Yes, that's exactly what I've been saying the past few comments. In AvX, Cyclops isn't being portrayed as someone who's perfect and won't suffer any consequences afterwards. The only reason you and others who hate him think he's being written immaculately is because he's isn't being treated poorly or being buried like you would like him to.

No, cause it isn't going that way. Explain what he's done wrong, which I asked earlier, Stating he has and not pointing it out doesn't really work.

What's the point? It's fairly obvious that Cyclops isn't being favored or treated poorly by Marvel. The only people who think so are the hardcore with extreme opinions. And I could write a huge comment about how you're wrong, but having read enough of your comments on here and CBR, it's clear that you will never budge from you deluded opinion and will argue until your fingers start to bleed. If you think Cyclops is being written as if he's perfect than you're reading the comic poorly.

#35 Edited by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Death Certificate said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7: Who the hell thinks marvel loves cycke?

A lot of people who dislike Cyclops think the reason he's been pushed so much if because Marvel loves him. They also believe that Cyclops isn't going to get any heat from AvX and will come off, as Hariel said, "smelling like roses".

What has he done wrong? (keep in mind I want cyke to burn too but right now it seems that's the direction Marvel is heading into with him)

He's done nothing wrong, but you want him to burn and think that Marvel has a bias towards him and will make him come out of this looking perfect.

Are you saying it's not looking like that right now?

Yes, that's exactly what I've been saying the past few comments. In AvX, Cyclops isn't being portrayed as someone who's perfect and won't suffer any consequences afterwards. The only reason you and others who hate him think he's being written immaculately is because he's isn't being treated poorly or being buried like you would like him to.

No, cause it isn't going that way. Explain what he's done wrong, which I asked earlier, Stating he has and not pointing it out doesn't really work.

What's the point? It's fairly obvious that Cyclops isn't being favored or treated poorly by Marvel. The only people who think so are the hardcore with extreme opinions. And I could write a huge comment about how you're wrong, but having read enough of your comments on here and CBR, it's clear that you will never budge from you deluded opinion and will argue until your fingers start to bleed. If you think Cyclops is being written as if he's perfect than you're reading the comic poorly.

So you can't give a reason that's all you gotta say. I asked and you can't deliver

I'm playing devils advocate, going off whats been given, so far he hasn't done nothing except fix things. Don't see the delusion when that is INFACT whats going on.

Instead of insulting try actually answering questions and backing up your words. Cause I can call you and ******** idiot for not answering a question.

#36 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079: You think Marvel has a secret agenda when it comes to Scott and you say I can't give a reason when I stated that it would be pointless to write a huge comment when you would just dismiss it. Here's an example of you be stubborn and arguing just to argue. This comment comes after you accusing someone of insulting you when they did no such thing. It's pointless to debate you.

#37 Posted by CellphoneGirl (18764 posts) - - Show Bio

It would kill me if Emma Frost died :/

#38 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079: You think Marvel has a secret agenda when it comes to Scott and you say I can't give a reason when I stated that it would be pointless to write a huge comment when you would just dismiss it. Here's an example of you be stubborn and arguing just to argue. This comment comes after you accusing someone of insulting you when they did no such thing. It's pointless to debate you.

Still didnt answer my question and I can easily highlight where you insult me, and if you truly read that on CBR then you would've saw the insult. Your a great spin artist, Mitt Romney can use you.

#39 Edited by Ceddsong (44 posts) - - Show Bio

If Emma died I think I would bury myself beneath a monument composed of her memorabilia. That being said, this event is making a mucky mess of the White Queen. While the commonly used story of absolute power=absolute corruption is still universally understood I think the path they've taken is a bit contrived. Though Scott is certainly not without his weak moments in AvX it's the way his other phoenix cohorts are being treated that rubs me the wrong way.Why is Emma losing it? She out of the entire team has the most personal experience with the Phoenix. And while Scott was there for Jeans cosmic transformation; Emma is the one whose had it wearing her skin. What happened to her vow of vengeance? What happened to her diamond hard will and resolve? Why is she going bat....crazy!? And why is Scott the hero...Again? A more interesting story. One that would prove the depth of love, compassion, and good within Emma would have been the other P5 losing it and her fighting the entire way until she kills herself in an attempt to rid the cosmos of that flaming canary. Sigh. I just pray her death is good.

#40 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Son...of...a...B#$%@

#41 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Does this mean current white crown jean well save emma again by claiming the phoenix force the P5 shared? It would be interesting to have them both in the white hot room. Especially if emma is the dark and jean the white phoenix.

Might just get that cat fight some fans have been hoping for.

#42 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8062 posts) - - Show Bio

Whose the gy with the floating black stuff around him?

#43 Posted by God_Spawn (38366 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Posted by Duchess (5999 posts) - - Show Bio

This event is a joke.

#45 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10130 posts) - - Show Bio

v-v

#46 Posted by Rickbarry (1856 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see the former p5 members in this image. Have they been apprehended or are they siding with Scott over Emma?

#47 Edited by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1008 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079:

Okay, I’ll try to keep this short. I really don’t have to do this, especially since on CBR you have wrote many comments about what Scott has done wrong and is in the wrong, but I will.

What has Scott done wrong? The answer is he hasn’t and he has. Scott is a flawed character, and a lot of his decisions land in the gray area. That’s what makes him interesting. In the beginning of AvX, Scott is training Hope, but he is clearly going overboard in training her. In this scene he is both in the right and in the wrong because while he has to prepare her for her destiny, he needs to ease up on her.

Then there’s the part where he took the first physical shot at Captain America, thus starting the war. In this case he is both in the right and wrong because Captain America did make a threat by saying Scott and the X-Men had no choice in the matter, leaving no room for compromise, but at the same time Scott did attack Captain America first.

For the rest of the first act he continues with his mission to have Hope harness the power of the Phoenix, and though Scott is trying to save and restore the nearly extinct mutant race, he at the same time is ignoring Hope’s feelings on the matter.

Eventually, Scott becomes one of the Phoenix Five and uses his powers to undo and solve some of the problems plaguing the planet. This is why I say you haven’t been reading the even properly, because if you have, you would know that the theme of the 2 act is safety/security vs freedom. It’s about absolute power corrupting absolutely. As a member of the Phoenix Five, Scott is helping the world, but the question is whether or not it’s a good thing to have people with so much power that can inflict as much harm as do they help. Once again, this is another gray area where Scott is in the right and wrong.

Scott is a flawed character, and to say that the writers are writing him as if he does nothing wrong and is perfect demonstrate a lack of knowledge, or bias towards, the character. For instance, in the last issue Emma was about to tell Scott that she needs his help, but before she could Scott left to get Hope back after Emma told him where she was. Now this is a gray action, one that many heroes make, i.e. Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, etc., because it builds drama to a story and because the heroes themselves have a duty to do what they think is right and in the process ignore problems or people in their lives. Though Emma was dropping hints that she was having problems, Scott didn’t fully know and he did was he always does and perform his job/mission, which in this cause was getting Hope back.

AvX is plagued with bad writing, and this can cause poor dialogue and scenes, but for the most part, it’s clear that Scott is being portrayed as someone in the gray area, as he has been portrayed for the past few years. We can speculate over whether he will suffer any consequences, and neither one of us will know for sure, but in my opinion it’s safe to say that Scott will suffer some consequences and will go through challenges as a result of AvX.

And yes, I did insult you. I never said I did. What I said was the poster you were arguing with on CBR never insulted you. Here it is:

And here he is stating that he never insulted you:

I don’t have a fondness for posters on and from the X-Men section of CBR. Most of you are snobbish, are extreme with your opinions, are slightly paranoid/deluded, and are just plain nutso. You think Marvel loves Scott, that I couldn’t support my statement even though I told you the reason why I didn’t feel like responding thoroughly, and you see insults where there are none. I don’t know who the mods are over there, but they suck at their job.

Also, I’m as left as they come, maybe not on international policy but on economical and social issues, and even I know that all politicians spin, not just Romney.

*Edited for paragraph structure.

#48 Posted by AweSam (7376 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

@JoseDRiveraTCR7 said:

@Hareil0079 said:

@RainEffect said:

I really don't want that to happen. If we were forced to have someone die, at least let it be Scott. I mean, has he ever died?

Nope, but Marvel seems to be going down the route to make Scott smell like roses at the end of this event.

So smelling like roses means having him be arrested. Okay...

It's a variant cover, you know what that is right? (just like a bunch of Variant covers that in AvX, such as Beast vs Luke Cage.. that didn't happen now did it)

It can be Namor who gets arrested for his attack on wakanda ever thought of that.

The character has their arms and hands covered. Last I checked, Namor never has anything covered.

#49 Posted by JohnnyWalker (821 posts) - - Show Bio

she started killing people that ever did anything to mutants. yep. kill the b!*ch.

#50 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7303 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmph. So it looks like Marvel forgot that Heather Cameron found her way to Utopia and is now a member of the "Street Team". -_-

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