Let her use TK... now!

#1 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Ok, so synch, synched his aura to emma and gains telekinesis....Why hasn't it been used by her voluntarily? ]=

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#2 Posted by Midnight Assassin (955 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

IDK.... maybe Marvel doesn't want Emma to have TK

#3 Posted by IcePrince_X (4162 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

It won't be cool if Emma has TK...her TP is what makes her...her...TK will poorly make her a copycat version of Jean

#4 Posted by Psysis (2394 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Midnight Assassin said:

"IDK.... maybe Marvel doesn't want Emma to have TK"

probably bc they dont want Emma to be more like jean than she is

#5 Posted by aztek_the_lost (30738 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

because Synch can do things with other people's powers that they themselves cannot, if I understood everything correctly about his powers

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#6 Posted by Midnight Assassin (955 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Psysis said:

"Midnight Assassin said:
"IDK.... maybe Marvel doesn't want Emma to have TK"

probably bc they dont want Emma to be more like jean than she is"

True Dat.

#7 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

aztek the lost said:

"because Synch can do things with other people's powers that they themselves cannot, if I understood everything correctly about his powers"

telepathy and telekinesis aren't the same thing though

IcePrince_X said:

"It won't be cool if Emma has TK...her TP is what makes her...her...TK will poorly make her a copycat version of Jean"

A copycat? they shared a man and that's it. their personality sets them apart as is.

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#8 Posted by Fae (805 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Well, if pix demands it... =]

#9 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 6 months ago - Show Bio

I've always thought TK was like the best power ever, so i'm admittedly biased in that respect...idk, i just want Emma to conquer the world.

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#10 Posted by MUTANT413 (402 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?

#11 Posted by Vance Astro (88672 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Ms.Frost shouid never have TK...

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#12 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

MUTANT413 said:

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Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?
"

Idk, still haven't finished generation X. You sure it wasn't monet or banshee?

Vance Astro said:

"Ms.Frost shouid never have TK..."

Don't say that.

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#13 Posted by Vance Astro (88672 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"MUTANT413 said:
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Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?
"
Idk, still haven't finished generation X. You sure it wasn't monet or banshee?

Vance Astro said:
"Ms.Frost shouid never have TK..."
Don't say that.
"

She's powerful enough..TK is overboard.

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#14 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

But she uses her TP, offensively, once every blue moon. Any other time the enemy has some protection to it. With TK she can throw people around without getting her hands dirty, much more Emma than an untrained brawler in her diamond form.

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#15 Posted by Vance Astro (88672 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"But she uses her TP, offensively, once every blue moon. Any other time the enemy has some protection to it. With TK she can throw people around without getting her hands dirty, much more Emma than an untrained brawler in her diamond form."

That's why she has her diamond form.I think they should give her TK when they plan on offing her.

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#16 Edited by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 4 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

No TK.

#17 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

MUTANT413 said:

"
Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?
"

Yes he did, But he flew by using chamber's abilities and projecting them downward to propel himself through the air. That's no explanation for him gaining TKKKKKKKKKKK

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#18 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"MUTANT413 said:
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Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?
"
Yes he did, But he flew by using chamber's abilities and projecting them downward to propel himself through the air. That's no explanation for him gaining TKKKKKKKKKKK"

..............Other than the fact that Emma is latently TK?

#19 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Maybe it's just something they wrote it once or a few times then forgot completely about or scratched the idea for various reasons.

#20 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

John Valentine said:

"pixelized said:
"MUTANT413 said:
"
Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?
"
Yes he did, But he flew by using chamber's abilities and projecting them downward to propel himself through the air. That's no explanation for him gaining TKKKKKKKKKKK"
..............Other than the fact that Emma is latently TK?"

which is the reason for this thread.

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#21 Posted by John Valentine (15777 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"John Valentine said:
"pixelized said:
"MUTANT413 said:
"
Didn't he once synch with Chamber, and use his powers to fly (something Chamber had never done before)?
"
Yes he did, But he flew by using chamber's abilities and projecting them downward to propel himself through the air. That's no explanation for him gaining TKKKKKKKKKKK"
..............Other than the fact that Emma is latently TK?"
which is the reason for this thread."

Indeed. But she's jeanifying.

#22 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

This is from Gen X, right? So the writers have probably forgotten about it & swept it under the carpet. After all, the diamond powers have come to be her trademark as opposed to a blonde Jean Grey ;)

I have to admit, it wasn't until recently that I realised that Jean was the only mutant who'd been both a Telekinetic & Telepath at the same time. I used to assume that the two powers went hand-in-hand. But I'm glad they didn't continue with Emma's TK faux pas.

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#23 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

xerox-kitty said:

"This is from Gen X, right? So the writers have probably forgotten about it & swept it under the carpet. After all, the diamond powers have come to be her trademark as opposed to a blonde Jean Grey ;)

Yes Ma'am.

xerox-kitty said:

I have to admit, it wasn't until recently that I realised that Jean was the only mutant who'd been both a Telekinetic & Telepath at the same time. I used to assume that the two powers went hand-in-hand. But I'm glad they didn't continue with Emma's TK faux pas.
"

Now that you mention it, i hadn't thought about it either. I just always thought TK was a cool power and Emma's so hands off it's like a perfect match for her... instead of pretending to fight.

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#24 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"Yes Ma'am"

LOL!

pixelized said:

"Now that you mention it, i hadn't thought about it either. I just always thought TK was a cool power and Emma's so hands off it's like a perfect match for her... instead of pretending to fight."

I never really realised it... Betsy wasn't a TK till her 'power swap' (I still hate that) with Jean. Revanche never showed any signs of TK. Emma & the Professor didn't seem to use it. And I could never understand why Justice was a TK but not a TP. It was only a few weeks ago I realised Jean was pretty much the only (I could think of) who'd used both at the same time. Of Course, Rachel, Cable X-Man & Maddy could too... but they all sprung from her genetics, I guess.

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#25 Posted by warlock360 (24794 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"I've always thought TK was like the best power ever, so i'm admittedly biased in that respect...idk, i just want Emma to conquer the world.
]=
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and i want her to die :D

then we have "Sad Cyclops = Happy Voidheart"

"sad pix = happy Void"

win

#26 Posted by Dane (10162 posts) - 4 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio

It's alright, she'll tap into the phoenix force and be back by next issue.

#27 Posted by AngelFrost (2833 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I like Emma as she is .. the Diamond body is just perfect for her.
It's been stated that she does have hidden TK power, But hasn't developed it yet.

Giving her TK will make her too similar to Jean,
But yeah, a more, 'active' power would be great for her
Like, an evolution on her current abilities such as:
- Turning things to diamond by a touch.
- Diamond knives or something, Idk lol.

#28 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

AngelFrost said:

"It's been stated that she does have hidden TK power, But hasn't developed it yet."

Outside of Generation X, where has this been stated? It seems more likely that they've retconned the TK possibility for the diamond body instead, not as well as,

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#29 Posted by TOAA (169 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Just because someone uses telepathy to affect the inanimate things around them does not mean they have telekinesis. Think of when Jean had traded her telekinesis for Psylocke's telepathy. Her psychic attacks were so great that they caused physical damage.

#30 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Don't confuse bad writing for powers. Telekinesis is the power to move things with your mind... So if someone uses their mind to make something move, then it is telekinesis. Telepathy is purely one mind to another. There are different ways of using that, and to make it look like the physical world has been effected... but telepathy doesn't effect the physical world.

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#31 Posted by TOAA (169 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I am aware what the definitions of these powers are. You are not educating me. It was a consistent feat that Jean performed without the use of any telekinesis.

#32 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

But Jean has used both powers in the past. Even when she returned to being just a telekinetic during her X-Factor days, she could still sense telepathic powers before anyone else. So even though she had that dreadful power swap with Betsy, it isn't unreasonable to believe that she could also retain some telekinetic side effects.

But just because Jean could use both powers, doesn't mean that Emma should.

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#33 Posted by TOAA (169 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Her telekinesis was gone. Psylocke had it. Not a part of it. Yet Jean still was able to use enough psychic (telepathic) power to damage things physically. I do agree that just because Jean could do it does not mean Emma could. But Emma is supposed to be among the best psychics in the world. I believe the only psychic that is above her that is not omega is Xavier and that is it.

#34 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

TOAA said:

"I believe the only psychic that is above her that is not omega is Xavier and that is it. "

Madelyne Pryor is massively more powerful than Emma. So is Rachel, though her control is not as fine.

#35 Posted by TOAA (169 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Korg said:

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TOAA said:
"I believe the only psychic that is above her that is not omega is Xavier and that is it. "

Madelyne Pryor is massively more powerful than Emma. So is Rachel, though her control is not as fine.
"

Omega both of them.

#36 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Ah, I thought you meant Kid Omega.

#37 Posted by TOAA (169 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Oh I see. I apologize for not making myself more clear.

#38 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

xerox-kitty said:

"AngelFrost said:
"It's been stated that she does have hidden TK power, But hasn't developed it yet."
Outside of Generation X, where has this been stated? It seems more likely that they've retconned the TK possibility for the diamond body instead, not as well as,"

i knowwwwwwwww and it saddens me. Why can't they just go hand in hand?

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#39 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

pixelized said:

"xerox-kitty said:
"AngelFrost said:
"It's been stated that she does have hidden TK power, But hasn't developed it yet."
Outside of Generation X, where has this been stated? It seems more likely that they've retconned the TK possibility for the diamond body instead, not as well as,"
i knowwwwwwwww and it saddens me. Why can't they just go hand in hand?"

Cuz you're not on the writing staff ;)

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#40 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Once i do make it, you'll be amazed by what i put out!

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#41 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

How about Emma Frost Rules The Marvel Universe... a bit like how the Punisher killed the MU but with blonde hair & bigger boobs? ;)

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#42 Posted by pixelized (62859 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

and she needs a puppy, like Paris Hilton.

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#43 Posted by xerox_kitty (15758 posts) - 4 years, 18 days ago - Show Bio

LOL... I can just picture her walking around with a little terrier's head sticking out of a white leather handbag. Too tacky for the icey White Queen? ;)

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#44 Posted by cmkphoenixfan1 (95 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Do you think it would be good if emma wasnt like other tkers. I think it would be good if she was able to move objects or people under extreme conditions or unbeliviable emotions. For example if Sabretooth was about to rip scotts heart out emma subconsciously throws him into a wall. What i'm thinking about is maybe she could be an inconsistent telekinetic. Maybe she would only be able to activate it at certain times. Like she has no control over it. Sometimes its available to her and other times its not. What about endsong, she moved kitty w her mind.

#45 Posted by Foreverbbyily (225 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@cmkphoenixfan1 said:

"Do you think it would be good if emma wasnt like other tkers. I think it would be good if she was able to move objects or people under extreme conditions or unbeliviable emotions. For example if Sabretooth was about to rip scotts heart out emma subconsciously throws him into a wall. What i'm thinking about is maybe she could be an inconsistent telekinetic. Maybe she would only be able to activate it at certain times. Like she has no control over it. Sometimes its available to her and other times its not. What about endsong, she moved kitty w her mind. "

that is a great idea but some see it as if emma would be to much like
jean grey if she gained tk powers

#46 Posted by crimsonspider89 (795 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I think Emma should stick to telepathy and her diamond form. TK would turn into a replacement for Jean in the comics.

#47 Posted by uncanny89 (821 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@cmkphoenixfan1:
I really like that.
do you mean like a psychic version of wolverines berserker rage? where Emma would loose all self control and anleashes all her psi potential?

#48 Edited by Erik (27224 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@cmkphoenixfan1 said:

" Do you think it would be good if emma wasnt like other tkers. I think it would be good if she was able to move objects or people under extreme conditions or unbeliviable emotions. For example if Sabretooth was about to rip scotts heart out emma subconsciously throws him into a wall. What i'm thinking about is maybe she could be an inconsistent telekinetic. Maybe she would only be able to activate it at certain times. Like she has no control over it. Sometimes its available to her and other times its not. What about endsong, she moved kitty w her mind. "

It is possible that Emma has a very mild form of telekinesis. As you pointed out, in Endsong she pushed Kitty away. In the same story, she put a TK bubble around Scott's head to protect him from the Phoenix. I think it is mostly a plot hole, but it did happen twice in the same issue and then there is the Synch.

#49 Edited by cmkphoenixfan1 (95 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@uncanny89: I mean like if she sees something happening which she finds distressing she could unleash her emotions in the form of telekinesis. I'll take another example: She hears her cuckoos screaming in her head and finds them being attacked by danger, emma emotionally distressed reaches out her hand at danger and throws her through a wall. It could be a completely new way of using telekinesis. She could have psychic barriers in her mind which become lower when shes distressed or her emotions get the better of her. When they lower she suddenly has the power of telekinesis but its an unreliable power only working under certain conditions. The power of moving one object or person could leave her energy depleted which gives time for the barriers to be erected again leaving her w her tp and diamond form alone.

I like your idea too though uncanny89, tk being represented as her full psi potential.

#50 Posted by Foreverbbyily (225 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@crimsonspider89 said:

"I think Emma should stick to telepathy and her diamond form. TK would turn into a replacement for Jean in the comics. "

Not really because they have completly diffrent minds and diffrent additudes lol

Emma Frost

The former White Queen of the Hellfire Club, Emma Frost is a powerful mutant telepath who can transform herself into organic diamond. She has become an eminent member among the X-Men. A gifted teacher, Emma is renowned for her beauty, wit, and revealing attire.

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