Grant Morrison on the Telepathic Affair

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#51 Edited by time (5029 posts) - - Show Bio
@X-MEN55 said:

" Jean was holding Scott back, Emma pushes him more and he's become an even better leader because of it. "

What putting a hit man squad together, makes him best leader ever and letting beast get torture etc
#52 Posted by Mercy_ (92708 posts) - - Show Bio
@time No actually. That's not why I like it so much.
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#53 Posted by Jake Fury (18672 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's funny he mentions Jean & Scott during the Dark Phoenix arc when that.....was.......not....really.......Jean. 
 
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#54 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt: IMO, defending any of the three is like defending Hitler, Mao, and Stalin in a "who was less morally reprehensible" contest. You don't win, you just find out which one was less of a dick then the other two.  "
Still this
#55 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

I read the first trade finally. Good stuff. Didn't like the whole Cassandra Nova thing, but I like the way the characters were written. It's also the first time I actually cared about Emma Frost, and that's saying something because I hate that character.

#56 Posted by Mercy_ (92708 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:
" I read the first trade finally. Good stuff. Didn't like the whole Cassandra Nova thing, but I like the way the characters were written. It's also the first time I actually cared about Emma Frost, and that's saying something because I hate that character. "
Have you read Whedon's Astonishing run. 
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#57 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress: I did, but that was a while ago. I reread the first trade though and now I'm trying to get the others. 
#58 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@time said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Gambit1024: It's collected in three ultimate editions. Sooooooooo worth it.  

I vouch for this. Best X-Men run ever. "
No way in hell. You thing it's best cause of an affair. "
Uh, no. I think it's the best because of its construction, its subtext, its excellent use of character, and pretty much everything else there is to like in a comic book that's of any literary importance. John Sublime is the best X-Men villain ever. Period. 
#59 Posted by Mercy_ (92708 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @time said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @The Dark Huntress said:
" @Gambit1024: It's collected in three ultimate editions. Sooooooooo worth it.  

I vouch for this. Best X-Men run ever. "
No way in hell. You thing it's best cause of an affair. "
Uh, no. I think it's the best because of its construction, its subtext, its excellent use of character, and pretty much everything else there is to like in a comic book that's of any literary importance. John Sublime is the best X-Men villain ever. Period.  "
+1
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#60 Edited by jeangreyemmafrost (125 posts) - - Show Bio

that messed my thoughts....

#61 Posted by God_Spawn (37904 posts) - - Show Bio

Still love reading this. Can't wait for the people to come here and say " he just did it to sleep with her cause's she look likes a pron star!" -_-.

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#62 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3249 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is the emphasis on Jean not being his wife anymore... she reached out to Scott. It was Scott who wasn't being a husband anymore.

And as strained at the time, a telepathic affair is just as bad (if not worse) than the real thing when you're already married to a telepath.

100% true

#63 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3249 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard that scott only saw jean as a teenager and he couldnt see her as a women like he does with emma.....so scott does have his limitations like everyone

#64 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard that scott only saw jean as a teenager and he couldnt see her as a women like he does with emma.....so scott does have his limitations like everyone

Really? That doesn't make much sense, especially since Emma would present herself as Jean, just a naughtier version of her in her "sessions" with Scott.

Scott bailed on Jean and decided the relationship wasn't worth saving. It happens. He isn't the greatest husband in the world, obviously. I think it was lame on his part, especially after everything Jean and him went through but Scott leaving for time to "think" isn't something new to the character. He returned from time spent in Alaska (a four part mini-series) to "find" himself and ultimately came back to a waiting and grateful Jean but hey -- there's no limitations on wanting to "find" yourself and if you still want to be part of a relationship.

If anything, they (the powers that be) should have presented the end of the relationship with Jean leaving him -- which would have made much more sense and would be well within her right to do so, considering all the crap he put her throughout their marriage (and relationship). But then, she died and you know -- gave Scott "permission" to be with the woman who actively sought to separate the two of them in order to save the mutant race....because he is just too important and blah, blah, blah...

It is what it is and that's ancient history. Now we get to see him be adored by teeny-boppers. Such a sexah, hawt guy.

#65 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3249 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis: I can't wait till ANXM 15........finally Scott Summers has what's coming to him (evil grins) but seriously ewww why did it have to be hank of all people isnt scotts and hanks relationship been though enough....lol

#66 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

@hopesummersforthefuture:

I saw that and I still can't see that happening -- Beast and Jean? Not that it's not a possibility -- all of the male members of the original X-Men expressed their attraction to her (even Professor X.....shudder) but I like the idea of her being with someone else. In fact, if I were her, knowing what I know about the future, I would do whatever I could to change it and pursuing a relationship with Scott would probably be the first thing I would drop.

#67 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3249 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

@hopesummersforthefuture:

I saw that and I still can't see that happening -- Beast and Jean? Not that it's not a possibility -- all of the male members of the original X-Men expressed their attraction to her (even Professor X.....shudder) but I like the idea of her being with someone else. In fact, if I were her, knowing what I know about the future, I would do whatever I could to change it and pursuing a relationship with Scott would probably be the first thing I would drop.

yup totally agree!!!

it should of said Beauty and The Beast.....would have been funnier, we all know disney owns marvel why are they trying to hide that....lol

i would rather have teen angel and jean grey almost kissing because they did date in the 616 (and it makes more sense) but no teen angel is with cyclops in uncanny---argh

#68 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3249 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

@hopesummersforthefuture said:

I heard that scott only saw jean as a teenager and he couldnt see her as a women like he does with emma.....so scott does have his limitations like everyone

Really? That doesn't make much sense, especially since Emma would present herself as Jean, just a naughtier version of her in her "sessions" with Scott.

Scott bailed on Jean and decided the relationship wasn't worth saving. It happens. He isn't the greatest husband in the world, obviously. I think it was lame on his part, especially after everything Jean and him went through but Scott leaving for time to "think" isn't something new to the character. He returned from time spent in Alaska (a four part mini-series) to "find" himself and ultimately came back to a waiting and grateful Jean but hey -- there's no limitations on wanting to "find" yourself and if you still want to be part of a relationship.

If anything, they (the powers that be) should have presented the end of the relationship with Jean leaving him -- which would have made much more sense and would be well within her right to do so, considering all the crap he put her throughout their marriage (and relationship). But then, she died and you know -- gave Scott "permission" to be with the woman who actively sought to separate the two of them in order to save the mutant race....because he is just too important and blah, blah, blah...

It is what it is and that's ancient history. Now we get to see him be adored by teeny-boppers. Such a sexah, hawt guy.

Exhibit A:

notice how he says redhead girl instead of woman from uncannny x-men 19

#69 Edited by Ceddsong (44 posts) - - Show Bio

In New X-men Cyclops and Jean failed each other. And additionally they grew apart. Jean could have read his mind and been more understanding of his current situation. Scott could have been more faithful and honest. The simple truth is that they found other ways to fulfill themselves.

And let us be honest. Jean has been flirting with Wolverine for at least a decade.

I like what Grant Morrison did to them. He gave them real world problems that every couples faces, they just sadly failed. And he's right about that moment on the moon when they were fighting for each other, that is stil one of the most poignant moments of their relationship and has defined it since. And despite it being the Phoenix it was still an exact copy of Jean.

I hope Emma and Scott remain on the same team whether they're involved or not. The characters work well together

#70 Posted by bellaardila92 (82 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Jean is a slut she has been cheating with Logan and Beast Emma Frost is so much better for Scott Emma is loyal

#71 Posted by mechem_93 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Jean is a slut she has been cheating with Logan and Beast Emma Frost is so much better for Scott Emma is loyal

LOL

#72 Posted by IllyanaRasputin (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

@mechem_93: let's not forget an overpowering cosmic force was thrown into all five hosts that were not capable to control the phoenix force.

#73 Edited by mechem_93 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

@illyanarasputin: oh I didn't forget it... but she still cheated. It's ok though, Namor>Scott

#74 Edited by The_Goddess_of_Chaos (314 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott and Jean's Pyschic bond was broken, so dont forget about that......

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