emma has new powers in XFC

#1 Posted by jubilee042 (1353 posts) - - Show Bio

at first i thought i  watched a trailer with poor quality but  yesterday i watched x men first class and well emma could turn her clothes diamond aswell she was wearing a skirt and bra but now its diamond weird but i like it your thoughts x fans

emma in diamond form in x-men first class movie
#2 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio

They were just being lazy. How is that a completely new power, though?

#3 Posted by Mercy_ (92554 posts) - - Show Bio

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

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#4 Posted by Mercy_ (92554 posts) - - Show Bio

@iLLituracy: Same mind.

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#5 Posted by TypingKira (3509 posts) - - Show Bio

Her diamond powers look absolutely terrible :{ Which is really, really sad. 

#6 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This. 
 
Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one! 
Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF? 
 
And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
#7 Posted by fesak (7031 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This.   Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one!  Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF?   And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
Common misconception.
Diamonds have extremely high hardness, not toughness. It's not as difficult as you may think to crack a diamond.
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#8 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This.   Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one!  Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF?   And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
Common misconception. Diamonds have extremely high hardness, not toughness. It's not as difficult as you may think to crack a diamond.
Ah, that's right. No toughness, but no maleability either. My apologies. Thank you =]
#9 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

They should've stuck with the original actress IMO.

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#10 Posted by EmmaGrace (1023 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt
It also seemed like she was being choked, when she doesn't have to breath in diamond form. And I TOTALLY agree with the Shaw comment. She just agreed and did everything he said with a boring, and definitely not British, monotone voice. 
 
In terms of casting, Ali Larter would have been my first choice..
#11 Posted by Mercy_ (92554 posts) - - Show Bio

@EmmaGrace said:

@FadeToBlackBolt: It also seemed like she was being choked, when she doesn't have to breath in diamond form. And I TOTALLY agree with the Shaw comment. She just agreed and did everything he said with a boring, and definitely not British, monotone voice. In terms of casting, Ali Larter would have been my first choice..

You have to remember thought that this took place in the sixties and things back then are not how they are now. So some of the subservient attitude could very much have to do with that. On top of that you have to take into account that Emma's manipulative, it's a skill that she's known for and that serving Shaw like that in the long run, helped her out. She was extremely formidable as a telepath and as a brawler in her diamond form (you see the way she threw Mags into the water effortlessly) and playing along with Shaw (also adding in the fact that she loved/cared for him) would keep him from looking at her as a threat to him.

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#12 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio
@EmmaGrace said:
@FadeToBlackBolt: It also seemed like she was being choked, when she doesn't have to breath in diamond form.  
 Seeing this did bug me a bit as well. In her diamond form she doesn't need to eat, breathe and has almost unlimited stamina. 
Was boring to see her subdued by bed railings...but too make movies more interesting I suppose tweaking some powers is necessary. 
 
It was a very good movie overall though. 
#13 Posted by EmmaGrace (1023 posts) - - Show Bio
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Yeah that's what I figured, she was just doing what she had to in order to keep he standing with Shaw. She obviously wasn't all that committed to him because once he was out of the picture she had no trouble moving on to Mags :p
#14 Posted by Mercy_ (92554 posts) - - Show Bio

@EmmaGrace: Exactly ;)

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#15 Posted by EmmaGrace (1023 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz
Yeah, it bothered me but it didn't make or break the movie. Plus she sent him flying, so I guess they're even ;) 
And I agree, overall it was a great movie
#16 Posted by uncanny89 (821 posts) - - Show Bio

to get around it they could say that they took the art from Astonishing X-Men Ghost box where the artist made her and her clothes turn to diamond

#17 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

I just kinda wished they'd shown that she's emotionless in diamond form.

#18 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

It's to prevent wardrobe malfunctions.

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#19 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This.   Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one!  Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF?   And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
Common misconception. Diamonds have extremely high hardness, not toughness. It's not as difficult as you may think to crack a diamond.
I believe you, but then why is her diamond form so durable in the comics?
#20 Posted by fesak (7031 posts) - - Show Bio
@fodigg said:
@fesak said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This.   Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one!  Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF?   And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
Common misconception. Diamonds have extremely high hardness, not toughness. It's not as difficult as you may think to crack a diamond.
I believe you, but then why is her diamond form so durable in the comics?
Writers have the same misconception. When this power was introduced she was shattered by a gunshot.
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#21 Posted by Agent9149 (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

couldn't they make her diamond from smooth...why does it look like they bedazzled her skin -.-

#22 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
@fodigg said:
@fesak said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This.   Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one!  Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF?   And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
Common misconception. Diamonds have extremely high hardness, not toughness. It's not as difficult as you may think to crack a diamond.
I believe you, but then why is her diamond form so durable in the comics?
Writers have the same misconception. When this power was introduced she was shattered by a gunshot.
That's really a shame. I think it's far more interesting that way. 
 
But then, what's the point of her diamond form? To literally cut glass with her, uh, fingers?
#23 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak said:
@fodigg said:
@fesak said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@The Dark Huntress said:

That's not a new power, it's just an adaptation of one she already has. They most likely did it because the diamond form FX was absolutely terrible and it would have looked even worse with her wearing clothes over it.

This.   Emma was not well done in this film, characterisation, powers, whatever. The whole point of casting an American actress as Emma is so you can have an authentic Faux-British accent, and she didn't speak with one!  Then her diamond form was cracked with the bars on a bed, which wouldn't be made of anything capable of cracking diamond, and she was subdued, physically, by Erik and Charlies in DIAMOND FORM! WTF?   And let's not even get into the fact she was basically Shaw's pet. Even when Emma was evil in the comics, she still had a personality and her own mind, here she was just broken by Shaw.
Common misconception. Diamonds have extremely high hardness, not toughness. It's not as difficult as you may think to crack a diamond.
I believe you, but then why is her diamond form so durable in the comics?
Writers have the same misconception. When this power was introduced she was shattered by a gunshot.
That was a diamond bullet fired into her single imperfection (that all diamonds have) though.
#24 Posted by nikbackm (184 posts) - - Show Bio
@fodigg said:
That's really a shame. I think it's far more interesting that way.  But then, what's the point of her diamond form? To literally cut glass with her, uh, fingers?
Uh, to make her somewhat invulnerable?
 
I did not know this was up for debate, we've seen her take bullets and far greater impact damage many times without getting hurt in any noticeable way. For example getting shot at in Uncanny X-Men #496-497 as well as in Phoenix Warsong. And in Astonishing X-Men #35-36 we saw her get swatted away by a giant meat-sentinel and sent flying through the walls of a building like cannonball.
 
So the diamond form seems to offer at least moderate protection.
 
Of course it's not absolute, anyone can (and will) get hurt when the plot calls for it. Just compare Colossus getting his arms broken when grappling with Nimrods in Second Coming. Or simply having his metal melted away by Omega Red's death factor.
#25 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio
@nikbackm said:
@fodigg said:
That's really a shame. I think it's far more interesting that way.  But then, what's the point of her diamond form? To literally cut glass with her, uh, fingers?
somewhat invulnerable?
I'm laughing at this phrase. I get your point, but isn't that like being "kind of pregnant" or "a little diabetic?"
#26 Posted by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio
@fodigg:

I'm laughing at this phrase. I get your point, but isn't that like being "kind of pregnant" or "a little diabetic?

Lol what? No not really.
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#27 Posted by fesak (7031 posts) - - Show Bio

More like somewhat fireproof or almost-flight.

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#28 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets also remeber Darwins clothes changed with his body.....magic!!

#29 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:
@fodigg:

I'm laughing at this phrase. I get your point, but isn't that like being "kind of pregnant" or "a little diabetic?

Lol what? No not really.
Invulnerable means "impossible to damage" so being "somewhat invulnerable" is a non-binary modifier on a binary condition, which isn't strictly appropriate. In the context of comic books, it makes more sense because the word "invulnerable" is overwhelmingly used to just mean "difficult to hurt." I wasn't trying to be a pedant or call out @nikbackm: for his use of the word—as I said, effectively everyone in the world of superheroes uses it that way—it's just something I noticed that made me laugh.
#30 Posted by StarKiller809 (1237 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't notice that. I guess I wasn't paying enough attention. Good point. Does that mean she can turn things into diamonds or were the special effects department tired of working too hard?
 
I don't know but it still was a great movie.

#31 Posted by AssertingValor (5380 posts) - - Show Bio
@fesak: i've told poeple on this site about diamonds so many times! they don't want to listen..................
#32 Posted by IKnowEverything (359 posts) - - Show Bio
@ebuchanan said:
@fesak: i've told poeple on this site about diamonds so many times! they don't want to listen..................
they be diamond-ignorant
#33 Posted by jubilee042 (1353 posts) - - Show Bio

by new powers i mean her real powers tweaked a little i was okay with her diamond form not crazy and i did check this blog because  i thought no one cared and commented my bad sorry about that folks

#34 Posted by jubilee042 (1353 posts) - - Show Bio
@iLLituracy: i was just trying to get your peoples attention my previous blogs have failed miserably
#35 Posted by emmo_frost (26 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt: well said, i hope emma in the next movie is better, i want a british accent too!!! january jones is not british O.o btw, i though the same thing about diamonds, i though diamonds cant be cracked

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