Emma Frost diamond form questions

#1 Posted by jojo111 (100 posts) - - Show Bio

1. What happens to Emma's blood in diamond form? 2.What happens to Emma if she transforms back to her regular body if her diamond form is cracked or damaged in any way 3. What is your favorite depiction of Emma's diamond form in comics and then tv/movies

#3 Posted by jojo111 (100 posts) - - Show Bio

my favorite for comics would be this one

but my favorite for tv show/movies would be this one

I absolutely HATED Emma's New Xmen diamond form, it didn't seem like it made her a diamond, just a shiny human with skin colors

#4 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@jojo111 said:

1. What happens to Emma's blood in diamond form? 2.What happens to Emma if she transforms back to her regular body if her diamond form is cracked or damaged in any way 3. What is your favorite depiction of Emma's diamond form in comics and then tv/movies

1. It becomes diamond blood, as shown in Morrison's new X-men (when she was attacked by Sublime) .

2. I think she can still heal in her diamond form, and I think much faster than normal, given that when her arm snapped off in the last volume of UXM, she didn't seem to lose any of her diamond blood. So I imagine she'd stay in it until she had done so; otherwise she'd probably be hurt far worse.

3. I'd say John Cassaday's version, which seems to have become the standard in the comics.

#5 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@jojo111: I don't think she has any blood when in diamond form... when she was shattered by a diamond bullet she was just left in chunks of shattered diamond! No shiny diamond blood was spilled or in a puddle!

#6 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@jojo111: I don't think she has any blood when in diamond form... when she was shattered by a diamond bullet she was just left in chunks of shattered diamond! No shiny diamond blood was spilled or in a puddle!

This, and when she was shown bleeding in her diamond form it was because she was already bleeding before she went diamond, I think she shifted to get over the pain of the broken nose.

#7 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

The only one to ever make Emma bleed was Elias Bogan.

#8 Posted by GonnaRain (752 posts) - - Show Bio

The only one to ever make Emma bleed was Elias Bogan.

Yeah, I was thinking of that same scan too. But aside from that particular moment, she never bled while on Diamond Form, or at least not that I can remember of.

Also, when her arm was severed while on Diamond Form by that Celestial Blast, she also didn't bleed, not until she shifted back to human form to user her TP.

#9 Posted by God_Spawn (37873 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't bleed in diamond form and some depictions have her pretty much completely solid all the way through. She's been shattered and there wasn't a glossy puddle, but a glossy pile. She also had her arm broken off and was fine. It wasn't until she reverted back to human form that she would have bled out and needed Namor to clutch the wound closed.

Which answers your next question. Whatever damaged sustained in diamond form would be mirrored in human form but with those human repercussions. Like I said, she lost her arm and was fine in diamond form. When she transformed back to human, she would have bled out.

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#10 Edited by arcano_19 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing is that before it was suppose that only her skin turned to diamond, now is the whole body like colossus this happens in microseconds and she turn into a no living yet sentient diamond

#11 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing is that before it was suppose that only her skin turned to diamond, now is the whole body like colossus this happens in microseconds and she turn into a no living yet sentient diamond

She's still alive in diamond form though. She still needs to breathe. And how do we breathe, class?

That's right, with our blood.

#12 Edited by God_Spawn (37873 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler said:

@arcano_19 said:

the thing is that before it was suppose that only her skin turned to diamond, now is the whole body like colossus this happens in microseconds and she turn into a no living yet sentient diamond

She's still alive in diamond form though. She still needs to breathe. And how do we breathe, class?

That's right, with our blood.

No, she doesn't need to breathe. She doesn't need any form of sustenance in diamond form. She can live in that form for as long as she wants. Same with Colossus.

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#13 Edited by Veitha (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing is that before it was suppose that only her skin turned to diamond, now is the whole body like colossus this happens in microseconds and she turn into a no living yet sentient diamond

Was it supposed that only the skin turned to diamond? I thought so at the start, but then Morrison implied that her whole body was made of diamond more than a time(when she discovered her mutation, Beast called her a "living diamond", Sublime threatened her to break her diamond form only some issues later, and then her body was broken). I think that she was like colossus since the start, it was the art which made only her skin look like diamond.

#14 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

No, she doesn't need to breathe. She doesn't need any form of sustenance in diamond form. She can live in that form for as long as she wants. Same with Colossus.

what makes you think she (or Colossus) doesn't need to breathe?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I know I've seen Colossus in outer-space wearing a space suit, so I'm just wondering what you're basing that on.

#15 Posted by God_Spawn (37873 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I know the Marvel handbook has stated Colossus does not require, food, water, or oxygen in his organic steel form and make mention he would not survive in a vacuum, hence the space suit most likely.

And I have seen Emma make comments in her diamond form that she doesn't require sustenance either. I can't find my scans for them right now, though.

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#16 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: I know the Marvel handbook has stated Colossus does not require, food, water, or oxygen in his organic steel form and make mention he would not survive in a vacuum, hence the space suit most likely.

And I have seen Emma make comments in her diamond form that she doesn't require sustenance either. I can't find my scans for them right now, though.

ooh, you got me there; good show!

I still don't think it makes any sense, but I'm sure I've ignored crazier things in the context of an X-men comic.

#17 Edited by God_Spawn (37873 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Glad I could help you learn something. I will say this, Colossus does actually bleed in organic form sometimes. It's just supposed to be this energy that leaks out and he is more hollow since holes have been blown in him before. Emma on the other hand, is solid all the way through, as seen when shattered. Whether transparent or not, based on artistic interpretation.

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#18 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: see, I've seen both Colossus and Emma bleed in their "armored" forms, so between that and Colossus' space suit (and, well, the fact that they're alive), I assumed that they needed to breathe.

crazy, man, just crazy. But I guess that's how it goes.

#19 Posted by Veitha (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

And Emma is also immune to virus and pheromones, while Colossus isn't(when Bishop used a virus against the X-Men, Emma was the only one who resisted against that, while Peter didn't)

#20 Posted by God_Spawn (37873 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler: Colossus has consistently bleed in organic steel form, though. What is inconsistent about it is the fact he bleeds blood or some kind of energy. Emma on the other hand, bled once because of outside factors.

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#21 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler said:

@arcano_19 said:

the thing is that before it was suppose that only her skin turned to diamond, now is the whole body like colossus this happens in microseconds and she turn into a no living yet sentient diamond

She's still alive in diamond form though. She still needs to breathe. And how do we breathe, class?

That's right, with our blood.

No, she doesn't need to breathe. She doesn't need any form of sustenance in diamond form. She can live in that form for as long as she wants. Same with Colossus.

And Mercury!!

#22 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992: see, I knew that about Mercury, but (as I understand it) she's sort of different in that she doesn't actually have a human form, she just emulates one.

#23 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992: see, I knew that about Mercury, but (as I understand it) she's sort of different in that she doesn't actually have a human form, she just emulates one.

She's a shape-shifter (sort of)... To make her mutation less noticeable and different, she makes herself look more human-like and she eats and drinks so that she can feel normal even though she doesn't need to!!

#24 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992: that's exactly why I don't put her in the same category as Colossus or Emma, or even other shape shifters like Iceman or Dust; she's a more singular organism in that she can't (as far as we know) revert back to human form. It's something I always appreciated about her friendship with Rockslide, who's sort of more in that same category. It's interesting how they were two of the more human like characters, despite not being physically human at all.

#25 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992: that's exactly why I don't put her in the same category as Colossus or Emma, or even other shape shifters like Iceman or Dust; she's a more singular organism in that she can't (as far as we know) revert back to human form. It's something I always appreciated about her friendship with Rockslide, who's sort of more in that same category. It's interesting how they were two of the more human like characters, despite not being physically human at all.

She was one of the first characters I loved initially when I first read New X-Men series right off the back because of her unique abilities and sleek look! I agree she's not in the category as Colossus or Emma power-wise but she kinda is on a more detailed scale because she doesn't need sustenance, much like Colossus and Emma...

#26 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

She was one of the first characters I loved initially when I first read New X-Men series right off the back because of her unique abilities and sleek look! I agree she's not in the category as Colossus or Emma power-wise but she kinda is on a more detailed scale because she doesn't need sustenance, much like Colossus and Emma...

Although they would if they reverted to human form. Remember when Colossus reverted to human form when he was first trying to get over what he assumed was Kitty's death? Just eating plate after plate of food in that diner? haha! I loved that.

#27 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

She was one of the first characters I loved initially when I first read New X-Men series right off the back because of her unique abilities and sleek look! I agree she's not in the category as Colossus or Emma power-wise but she kinda is on a more detailed scale because she doesn't need sustenance, much like Colossus and Emma...

Although they would if they reverted to human form. Remember when Colossus reverted to human form when he was first trying to get over what he assumed was Kitty's death? Just eating plate after plate of food in that diner? haha! I loved that.

Let's not forget the tattoo that he attempted to get but couldn't...

(I think he actually finally got it though... I remember a scan somewhere!?)

#28 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:Let's not forget the tattoo that he attempted to get but couldn't...

(I think he actually finally got it though... I remember a scan somewhere!?)

the funny thing about that is, (I'm pretty sure) he actually did eventually get that tattoo, and it was just never mentioned (or ever seen) again.

#29 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:Let's not forget the tattoo that he attempted to get but couldn't...

(I think he actually finally got it though... I remember a scan somewhere!?)

the funny thing about that is, (I'm pretty sure) he actually did eventually get that tattoo, and it was just never mentioned (or ever seen) again.

Found it...

#30 Posted by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@oldnightcrawler said:

the funny thing about that is, (I'm pretty sure) he actually did eventually get that tattoo, and it was just never mentioned (or ever seen) again.

Found it...

I don't think that's it. I thinks it's that creepy old dude with tattoo mental powers illustrating Colossus' thoughts on his chest.

isn't it?

#31 Edited by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992 said:

@oldnightcrawler said:

the funny thing about that is, (I'm pretty sure) he actually did eventually get that tattoo, and it was just never mentioned (or ever seen) again.

Found it...

I don't think that's it. I thinks it's that creepy old dude with tattoo mental powers illustrating Colossus' thoughts on his chest.

isn't it?

IDK....

#32 Edited by oldnightcrawler (4560 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992: I feel pretty confident that that isn't his tattoo.

#33 Posted by bellaardila92 (82 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Emma can't bleed in her diamond form.

#34 Posted by ubungqingili (81 posts) - - Show Bio

if emma did not bleed when her arm got blown off then i think its safe to say she does not bleed.

#35 Edited by Veitha (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to say, have you guys seen her future evolution in the BOTA game? The Graphite Form.... Man that is a terrible idea

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