Emma becoming a better character didn't just happen at once i feel as though it took time. When Emma replaced jean that as when it started and over the years it built up. When Jean was with Cyclops, i hate to admit it but Scott was a boring character. When he was with Emma his character started to develop he didnt stay boring, he evolved. Both Emma and Scott both had their problems and she helped him through and vice versa. She helped with the students more than Jean, helped co- lead the X-men and has helped them through more than one occasion and hell even gave Cyclops his ability to control his powers even if just for a short while. She has just given more to the X-men than Jean IMO. She is a more developed character and just keeps things unpredictable. I know i've said this before but she will stay good but keeps the people hoping she turns bad but that is part of her character. Nothing is straight black and white with her. She operates on ways above that, she isn't a straight character to figure out.

But honestly it's a matter of opinion, people will hate her more Jean, people will like her more than Jean  so you can't really point out a time she became better as its an opinion. I like Emma better but again that's just an opinion.

@god_spawn said:

Emma becoming a better character didn't just happen at once i feel as though it took time. When Emma replaced jean that as when it started and over the years it built up. When Jean was with Cyclops, i hate to admit it but Scott was a boring character. When he was with Emma his character started to develop he didnt stay boring, he evolved. Both Emma and Scott both had their problems and she helped him through and vice versa. She helped with the students more than Jean, helped co- lead the X-men and has helped them through more than one occasion and hell even gave Cyclops his ability to control his powers even if just for a short while. She has just given more to the X-men than Jean IMO. She is a more developed character and just keeps things unpredictable. I know i've said this before but she will stay good but keeps the people hoping she turns bad but that is part of her character. Nothing is straight black and white with her. She operates on ways above that, she isn't a straight character to figure out. But honestly it's a matter of opinion, people will hate her more Jean, people will like her more than Jean  so you can't really point out a time she became better as its an opinion. I like Emma better but again that's just an opinion.

Great post, yet again. 

Hmm, I think Emma just brought a whole new dynamic to the X-Men, and her relationship with Cyclops completely changed and developed his character to what many people call "bad-ass".

People got tired of Jean dying and coming back so many times. That and pre-teens boys are suckers for bitchy blonde, tig ol bittie hoes, in skimpy attire. Ya digg?

I however prefer Jean to this immitation trollop.

Can someone tell me at what point did Emma Frost become a better character than Jean. I know that a lot of people like Emma more than Jean. So I am interesting to hear  at what point did you like her more than Jean. when did she actually become that good ? 

 

I don't think Emma became better than Jean I think Jean just became too perfect, which is annoying. She's sort of like silver age Superman able to do anything and solve any problem plus she's ultra compassionate and forgiving.....she's better off dead for now.

I think the difference between them is Jean is like the friend who helps everyone out and everyone likes and Emma is the bad girl that that you are warned to stay away from but if you get to know her she is not as bad as people say. For me Emma is just more interesting
than Jean. Yes Jean is the Phoenix the ultimate personification of power but Emma's character has just enough of an edge to her to keep you guessing.

Jean has always been one of the worst characters in comics. She's a God Mode Mary Sue, with no personality.

Emma, on the other hand, is one of the best characters to have ever appeared in a Marvel book. She's shown genuine growth as a character, has a fanbase that doesn't attract self-righteous douches, and is powerful enough to matter, but not so powerful to make her every appearance a bore.

In short, Jean is the character you like when you don't know what a good character is .

Emma isn't necessarily a better character.. She's just, you know, currently alive :p that always helps.

Because Emma made Scott a super cool character.When he was with Jean he was a very boring character.And Jean was a lame character too.

I do like EMMA but not more JEAN. She has become a great character in her own right and writers dont really seem to know what to do with Jean anymore. I prefer either GENERATION X-era Emma or X-MEN: Academy X-era Emma. I really like her in the whole student-teacher settings and storylines.

SCOTT is still kinda LAME to me, reguardless of who he's with. He actually seems to have manned up a lot but he's still overpowered/overshadowed by his female companion. Jean, MADELYNE, and now Emma; I dunno why writers keep putting him with women he's clearly beneath (not to mention the fact that his loves keep ending up DEAD).

Emma better get LIFE ALERT!!!

Personally I like both of them equally... for very different reasons. 
Jean was the anchor to the X men team during it's early development and on some level will always remain an influence on the X men.  
Emma is the foot in their behind when they need it and in extreme circumstances the telepathic backhand because she comes from another world than jean she brings a perspective to their team that they wouldn't have explored before. 
Both are pivotal parts of the team though to say one is better than the other is like comparing wolverine to captain america... I like both characters but to place them in the same category just doesn't work because they are too different.     

Emma is definitely interesting but NOT better.
 
Jean became UBER powerful and kept dying...  Becoming too powerful, or dying repeatedly makes a character boring.  The most popular characters in the Marvel Universe are the ones who are NOT insanely powerful.  Spider-Man, Wolverine, Captain America...
 
Emma is powerful but not ridiculously powerful... And she's not a tree-hugger...
 
I STILL don't like that she had an affair with Scott while Scott was still married to Jean... Many will argue that the marriage was basically over and that argument is basically crap... Maybe it was 'basically' over but they still had a commitment... He should have ended the marriage with Jean before sexiing it up with Emma...
 
I also don't like that Emma has already cheated on Scott with Namor...  I'm actually surprised that I'm the only one who thinks she was wrong to do that...  It's true that she's had a good effect on Scott, but what will happen when he finds out about her and Namor???

@Timandm:

He should have ended the marriage with Jean before sexiing it up with Emma...

Yes, he should have. But the fact remains that it takes two to tango.

I also don't like that Emma has already cheated on Scott with Namor... I'm actually surprised that I'm the only one who thinks she was wrong to do that... It's true that she's had a good effect on Scott, but what will happen when he finds out about her and Namor???

When did this happen? Because if your're talking about what I think you are, it happened before she was with Scott. Unless it's an EXTREMELY new development. Emma hasn't been with anybody else since she's been with Scott.

Huntress, I just re-read that issue on the chance that the scene with Emma and Namor in his bedroom was a flash back... It's 'possible' that it is but it's very hard to tell...  I honestly hope it IS a flash back.  I'd sure like some clarification on the issue...  However, the scene where she suggests he continues trying to seduce her DEFINITELY happens in the presence... In fact, it was only moments before she contacted Scott... Of course, this could just be part of the ruse to fool Namor into joining the X-Men...

I'm sure it's a flashback.

Yeah... Pretty sure it is now...  I apologize to Miss Frost... Although, I feel compelled to say for no reason at all that I'm still a bit weirded out that she's in love with "The Blue condom."   (That means Scott)

And cellphonegirl, your image/avatar reminds me that I think we should see more of Pixie in the X-Men titles... Her and Santo... Not that I mean for them to be an item, because that would just be...eww...  (I'm a guy and I'm actually saying "eww" so it HAS to be bad.)
 
But back to the issue of this thread...
 
Emma definitely makes the X-Men titles more interesting than Jean...  Although, I loved Jean...Not the way that Scott and Wolverine, or even Angel loved her... I mean I loved her as a character....  But the pheonix thing was more overdone than a steak cooked in a nuclear reactor...
 
Also, she brought that femme fatale / bad girl thing to the X-Mansion and beyond...  Jean was very much like a female version of Scott but with much more power....and estrogen...
 
As for, how long will they be together, well... I think they'll have to be like Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn; be together but never officially get married...  With Scot's record, if they get married, he'll have to dump her for the next telepath that comes along...

E for Extinction is when Emma started to push pass Jean.