Can Emma be saved from Bendis?

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#1 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

I genuinely worry such an intriquite and amazing character is now going to further plummet down the character assassination trope with Bendis....

AvX already violently tore her charcter to shreds but I fear that All New X-Men will only make it worse. Perhaps Joss Whedon could come and save the day? An Emma mini-series maybe? He did wonders for her in Astonishing X-Men (her relationship with Kitty being one of them).

#2 Edited by God_Spawn (37314 posts) - - Show Bio

Can he write her well and do something good with her? Yes. Or can he tear her further apart? Yes. IMO, it will be a bit shaky at first due to adjusting to his writing. But he has a shot here to do something good and it at least can't be worse than Fraction's run.

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#3 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17271 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

Can he write her well and do something good with her? Yes. Or can he tear her further apart? Yes. IMO, it will be a bit shaky at first due to adjusting to his writing. But he has a shot here to do something good and it at least can't be worse than Fraction's run.

exactly, he can be good when he wants to be, same as Aaron, and a few more. i hope he does well.

#4 Posted by .Riddick. (632 posts) - - Show Bio

No. No she cannot. She is forevermore a victim of Bendis.

#5 Posted by doddy (248 posts) - - Show Bio

Just re-read Bendis’ House of M and New Avengers “Sentry” arc. They both had really huge cast but Emma was featured prominently as major role. I mean in HOM her role was way bigger than Scott and other X-Men (except Wolverine of course) and in NA she’s just only one diva in it. Bendis seems really like to write Emma. I guess it’s a good sign for her in ANXM and UXM.

#6 Posted by McKlayn (1069 posts) - - Show Bio

Give the man some time, he has a large cast and only two issues in. The CAST of All New X men is the original 5 (mainly) the others i feel are only in it to begin with to set up for the New Uncanny X men, so she may not play a big real (i wouldn't think so at least) in All New, but in Uncanny I am sure she will be a major player. So give him at least a few (4-5?) issues of Uncanny before you crucify him.

#7 Posted by IllyanaRasputin (1088 posts) - - Show Bio

Bendis likes Emma, he's said many times that he has a lot in store for the character. I believe that he'll do a good job writing her. If anything we'll see better writing of her in the new launch of Uncanny X-Men

#8 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Give the man a chance before you b~tch.

#9 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

Heck she has yet to be in the anxm.

#10 Posted by jrock85 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

Can any character be saved from Bendis?

#11 Posted by Madame_Mist (1325 posts) - - Show Bio

He writes a good Emma. I don't know why we have multiple threads going whether a character can be saved from Bendis.

#12 Posted by Blood1991 (8098 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

Can he write her well and do something good with her? Yes. Or can he tear her further apart? Yes. IMO, it will be a bit shaky at first due to adjusting to his writing. But he has a shot here to do something good and it at least can't be worse than Fraction's run.

Agreed, Bendis has proven he can write a character well when he wants too. Fro example Storm in the Avengers was a very different character from Storm in All New X-Men. He genuinely seems dedicated to writing the X-Men well. However, with Bendis you either get gold or you get snot.

#13 Edited by lykopis (10756 posts) - - Show Bio

@.Riddick. said:

No. No she cannot. She is forevermore a victim of Bendis.

Yep.

@IllyanaRasputin said:

Bendis likes Emma, he's said many times that he has a lot in store for the character. I believe that he'll do a good job writing her. If anything we'll see better writing of her in the new launch of Uncanny X-Men

Its what specifically Bendis has in store for Emma's character that I don't put much faith in. Spin it any way you want, but splitting her and Scott up was already strike one. A writer worth his salt could/would/should attempt to keep these two together, especially because of their history. And before anyone starts griping about how Scott overshadowed Emma, puh-lease. It was previous writers' faults for making her so quiet (and that summation is debatable) and Whedon had no problem giving her a voice separate from Cyclops'. That Bendis is excited and enthusiastic about splitting up the most popular X-Men couple is a warning bell. A loud one in my opinion

@TheAcidSkull said:

@god_spawn said:

Can he write her well and do something good with her? Yes. Or can he tear her further apart? Yes. IMO, it will be a bit shaky at first due to adjusting to his writing. But he has a shot here to do something good and it at least can't be worse than Fraction's run.

exactly, he can be good when he wants to be, same as Aaron, and a few more. i hope he does well.

@Blood1991 said:.

Agreed, Bendis has proven he can write a character well when he wants too. Fro example Storm in the Avengers was a very different character from Storm in All New X-Men. He genuinely seems dedicated to writing the X-Men well. However, with Bendis you either get gold or you get snot.

Bendis can be a good writer when he wants to be? Isn't that what a good writer is supposed to do? For all those who think he will be great for Emma, great. There are some of us here who don't think he is. Which brings to me my next point...

@x_29 said:

Give the man a chance before you b~tch.

Nah, I'll b*tch, just like there are others who boost. Considering we have yet to see Bendis bring her into UXM, maybe we all should bite our tongues. I wonder when he plans to bring her into the story line? Sure hope that doesn't mean Emma won't be an important player. I would hate to think Magneto has taken her place by Cyclops' side...

Do I want Bendis to not treat Emma's character as some trumped up, greedy, selfish wh*re who returns to villainy? Of course. Do I think he will?

Nope.

But this is all speculation on everyone's parts which makes for great conversation. Any side of the fence you are on, there will be some major changes (on top of what's already happened in the X-Universe).

@jrock85 said:

Can any character be saved from Bendis?

I hear you. bro.

#14 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (2767 posts) - - Show Bio

"conniving bleached blonde piece of dirt" <----how i feel about emma then and now

#15 Posted by Lokheit (492 posts) - - Show Bio

Bendis already stated he had "a lot of fun" writting Emma's and Scott breakup, which made me really mad at him because I don't consider fun at all to break my favorite comic couple of all times...

And something tells me he will go the easy route and make her f*** with every single character she encounters to completly destroy the character. Hey, they already destroyed Beast to make him a total whining hypocrite, so my hopes aren't really good here...

Scott and Emma are 2 of my 3 fav. characters (along with Nightcrawler), I hate that he made them break for the sake of it, there was not reason at all to make the relationship evolve in that direction. And if all of this is to make Scott return with Jean when they revive her I will be REALLY mad (Scott+Emma >>>>>>>>>>>> Scott+Jean).

#16 Posted by PassionFlower (957 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Bendis a lot and if you are a character HE likes he can really do wonders but if not look out! I haven't gotten a take on how he feels about Emma yet. I am slightly wary but it might work out great. He already had DD pop her up side the head but he loves DD so that might not mean much.

#17 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

After reading All New X-men # 3, the answer is no.

#18 Posted by SC (12697 posts) - - Show Bio

Well his previous writing with Emma was relatively average in terms of writers grasps of her, Bendis strong point is dialogue and character interaction, his weak point characterization (read mischaracterization) but Emma is also in a different place than we last saw her written by Bendis, personally my ideal would be to see her written by... Carey or Ellis. I would love to see how they write a non attached Emma.

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#19 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

can fanboys stop complaining?

#20 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

@x_29 said:

Give the man a chance before you b~tch.

Gtfo

@theTimeStreamer said:

can fanboys stop complaining?

Im not a boy

#21 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how Bendis writes a good Emma. I've red HoM/Sentry etc and just because she is prominently featured doesn't mean she is a good Emma. People think he writes a good Emma just because he likes her character. But that isn't how it works. Just because he wrote Emma as the archetype leader in his runs with her, does not mean it did her any justice. He still made sure that Emma always went right back to Scott and for some reason, he constantly wrote her as 'Mrs Mary Sue' which is annoying. She isn't meant to be a wholesome, preppy telepath who will quietly voice her opinion.

People have been so desperate for a good Emma that when Bendis shows the slightest type of o.k writing with her, they'll take it.

#22 Posted by doddy (248 posts) - - Show Bio

I do think his Emma in HoM was very in character, especially when she suggested to put Wanda down and asked Scott why they were married. Of course she’s not the best Emma, but still quite good.

Emma in ANX #3 was not that bad… losing her TP was a good move IMHO, Bendis created a very interesting environment for Emma to be in; and he wanted to write a angry Emma who’s mad at her homicidal ex, which was a right decision, but… well, he’s failed to communicate Emma's feelings to the reader. But her characteristic was okay.

Bendis of course is not the best Emma-writer but I think he’s worthy of pinning our hope on.

#23 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7264 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy: Pinning any ounce of hope on Bendis is an imminent tragedy in and of itself.

#24 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6013 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't like Emma that much, so I don't care what Bendis does to her.

#25 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6013 posts) - - Show Bio

@theTimeStreamer said:

can fanboys stop complaining?

#26 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

@queenfrost_ said:

@x_29 said:

Give the man a chance before you b~tch.

Gtfo

@theTimeStreamer said:

can fanboys stop complaining?

Im not a boy

No, I think I will continue to stay in this thread.

#27 Posted by PowerHerc (81602 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, she can't die. It''s impossible.

#28 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@jrock85 said:

Can any character be saved from Bendis?

This.

He can write a good Emma, but he often distorts characterization to tell the story he wants to tell despite prior history or good style. His characters tend to be bland.

#29 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that Bendis will do such bad stuff with her.Indeed he tore her character apart a lot with AvX but I have hope in him.He can fix things if he wants and if he finds out that he is ruining the character.

#30 Posted by SUNMAN (7141 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma will probably be better off now. Bendis has a knack for elevating people

#31 Posted by Veitha (2895 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh god, I miss old Em'... the one who didn't have to say "fella" to upset someone...

#32 Posted by Imperfect (22 posts) - - Show Bio

I want Emma and Cyclops to be together again, hopefully Bendis doesn't end their relationship for good.

#33 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

This just in, Bendis was heard at a bar that Emma is going to finally admit she's a natural redhead. She was afraid people would think she was soulless, cause you know she's a ginger.

I cannot confirm the validity of this rumor being I just made it up!

#34 Posted by WinterFreakinSoldier (44 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

This just in, Bendis was heard at a bar that Emma is going to finally admit she's a natural redhead. She was afraid people would think she was soulless, cause you know she's a ginger.

I cannot confirm the validity of this rumor being I just made it up!

LOL <3

#36 Posted by Strider92 (16092 posts) - - Show Bio

What kind of question is that!? No-one is safe from Bendis......NO ONE!

#37 Posted by doddy (248 posts) - - Show Bio

James Asmus or Mike Carey should have written an X-flagship title. Especially the former, Asmus even professed that he’s a huge Emma fan.

#38 Posted by Queen's Halo (2431 posts) - - Show Bio

A character that is already ruined cannot be saved. I really doubt Bendis can do anything that will make her deserve to die permanently even more.

#39 Posted by Target_X (379 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Emma has been ruined by him, but I can also see how others could think so. I'm on the fence with where it heads from here. Like others have said, it can really go either way. As it stands right now she has a very wide opening to gain some strong characterization and development, and I hope Marvel takes it. They've been dallying around with some characters for far too long; it's time for a little change.

#40 Posted by poisonfleur (2959 posts) - - Show Bio

@AgeofHurricane said:

@doddy: Pinning any ounce of hope on Bendis is an imminent tragedy in and of itself.

Right! Remember how he treated Storm when she joined the Avengers. He even said there was going to be a story that focused on her point of view. Did that happen? Nope.. I felt betrayed. :/

#41 Posted by doddy (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@poisonfleur said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@doddy: Pinning any ounce of hope on Bendis is an imminent tragedy in and of itself.

Right! Remember how he treated Storm when she joined the Avengers. He even said there was going to be a story that focused on her point of view. Did that happen? Nope.. I felt betrayed. :/

What happened...

You made me kinda worried now lol ‘cause Bendis said that we'll be seeing plenty of Emma front and center too…

#42 Posted by lykopis (10756 posts) - - Show Bio

@doddy said:

@poisonfleur said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@doddy: Pinning any ounce of hope on Bendis is an imminent tragedy in and of itself.

Right! Remember how he treated Storm when she joined the Avengers. He even said there was going to be a story that focused on her point of view. Did that happen? Nope.. I felt betrayed. :/

What happened...

You made me kinda worried now lol ‘cause Bendis said that we'll be seeing plenty of Emma front and center too…

Worry.

#43 Posted by knighthood (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I prefer Bendis's take on Cyclops, Emma, and Magneto.

#44 Posted by poisonfleur (2959 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

@doddy said:

@poisonfleur said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@doddy: Pinning any ounce of hope on Bendis is an imminent tragedy in and of itself.

Right! Remember how he treated Storm when she joined the Avengers. He even said there was going to be a story that focused on her point of view. Did that happen? Nope.. I felt betrayed. :/

What happened...

You made me kinda worried now lol ‘cause Bendis said that we'll be seeing plenty of Emma front and center too…

Worry.

Yes.. Be very afraid. Personally I feel he was talking out of his @$$.. :/

Have a little bit of hope, Emma seems to be easier to write compared to Storm, so HOPEFULLY he won't screw over another X-lady. And in his defense, he did give Emma role in House of M...

But seriously.... For the record, unless you are spiderwoman, Bendis doesn't give a fly F about lady characters based on what I seen in the past. Just saying. And being a reader that focuses on the X-ladies, I find that disappointing.

#45 Posted by Jake Fury (18116 posts) - - Show Bio

What's the definitive Emma that fans want? She's been written differently by Bendis, Gillen, Fraction and Morrison.

#46 Posted by poisonfleur (2959 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jake Fury said:

What's the definitive Emma that fans want? She's been written differently by Bendis, Gillen, Fraction and Morrison.

Personally-- I like Emma done by Fraction and Whedon.

#47 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7264 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jake Fury said:

What's the definitive Emma that fans want? She's been written differently by Bendis, Gillen, Fraction and Morrison.

Morrison. Morrison. MO-RRI-SON.

And maybe Gillen, but he didn't exactly do too much for her.

@poisonfleur: What did you like about Fraction's Emma ?

#48 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jake Fury said:

What's the definitive Emma that fans want? She's been written differently by Bendis, Gillen, Fraction and Morrison.

Wheeeedon!

#49 Posted by Veitha (2895 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jake Fury said:

What's the definitive Emma that fans want? She's been written differently by Bendis, Gillen, Fraction and Morrison.

Morrison/Whedon

#50 Posted by Mercy_ (92534 posts) - - Show Bio
@Veitha

@Jake Fury said:

What's the definitive Emma that fans want? She's been written differently by Bendis, Gillen, Fraction and Morrison.

Morrison/Whedon

This is absolutely correct.
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