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Doomsday is a comic book character that first appeared in Superman: The Man of Steel #17

Doomsday strength

Topic started by brainiac 1.0 on May 28, 2008. Last post by Alpha 4 months, 2 weeks ago.
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How many tons can doomsday lift. Can he lift a mountain like World War Hulk. Can he pick up a moon. Can doomsday move planets what. I just want to know how many tons can doomsday lift. And also show feats if you can please.


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How many tons can doomsday lift. Can he lift a mountain like World War Hulk. Can he pick up a moon. Can doomsday move planets what. I just want to know how many tons can doomsday lift. And also show feats if you can please.


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Doomsday's strength is most likely at Superman's level. note level, not the exact same strength He probably is in a higher end of his level than Superman is though. It is debatable whether or not Doomsday's strength increases with each evolution he goes through.


Doomsday's strength is most likely at Superman's level. note level, not the exact same strength He probably is in a higher end of his level than Superman is though. It is debatable whether or not Doomsday's strength increases with each evolution he goes through.


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I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH.


I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH.


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Gottheit says:

"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

How about more. Since superman can lift more than that. So that means doomsday could even lift more.


Gottheit says:

"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

How about more. Since superman can lift more than that. So that means doomsday could even lift more.


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Gottheit says:

"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

If he is on superman's level then he should be able to do every feat of strength that super man can do and better, well any feat that doesn't require flight. At his peak superman could lift a black hole, which in order to be self sustaining must be the mass of the moon or greater.


Gottheit says:

"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

If he is on superman's level then he should be able to do every feat of strength that super man can do and better, well any feat that doesn't require flight. At his peak superman could lift a black hole, which in order to be self sustaining must be the mass of the moon or greater.


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True.


True.


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Dreadnaught says:

"Gottheit says:
"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

If he is on superman's level then he should be able to do every feat of strength that super man can do and better, well any feat that doesn't require flight. At his peak superman could lift a black hole, which in order to be self sustaining must be the mass of the moon or greater."

?????????

A self-sustaining quantum singularity needs to be at least 3 solar masses (3*our sun), even then all quantum singularities will breakdown eventually. Quantum singularities the mass of the moon (btw it would be about a nanometer in diameter for it's event horizon) would not last more than a few seconds before it imploded.


Dreadnaught says:

"Gottheit says:
"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

If he is on superman's level then he should be able to do every feat of strength that super man can do and better, well any feat that doesn't require flight. At his peak superman could lift a black hole, which in order to be self sustaining must be the mass of the moon or greater."

?????????

A self-sustaining quantum singularity needs to be at least 3 solar masses (3*our sun), even then all quantum singularities will breakdown eventually. Quantum singularities the mass of the moon (btw it would be about a nanometer in diameter for it's event horizon) would not last more than a few seconds before it imploded.


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Tevnoba says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"Gottheit says:
"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

If he is on superman's level then he should be able to do every feat of strength that super man can do and better, well any feat that doesn't require flight. At his peak superman could lift a black hole, which in order to be self sustaining must be the mass of the moon or greater."

?????????

A self-sustaining quantum singularity needs to be at least 3 solar masses (3*our sun), even then all quantum singularities will breakdown eventually. Quantum singularities the mass of the moon (btw it would be about a nanometer in diameter for it's event horizon) would not last more than a few seconds before it imploded."

Blakc holes of stellar origins are 3 solar masses in mass. Primordial black holes tend to be smaller. But no black hole can have less mass then the moon, otherwise what it absorbs in from the false vacuum of space will not compensate for hawking's radiation.


Tevnoba says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"Gottheit says:
"I don't think Doomsday feels strain or fatigue, so...I think he could lift as much as WWH."

If he is on superman's level then he should be able to do every feat of strength that super man can do and better, well any feat that doesn't require flight. At his peak superman could lift a black hole, which in order to be self sustaining must be the mass of the moon or greater."

?????????

A self-sustaining quantum singularity needs to be at least 3 solar masses (3*our sun), even then all quantum singularities will breakdown eventually. Quantum singularities the mass of the moon (btw it would be about a nanometer in diameter for it's event horizon) would not last more than a few seconds before it imploded."

Blakc holes of stellar origins are 3 solar masses in mass. Primordial black holes tend to be smaller. But no black hole can have less mass then the moon, otherwise what it absorbs in from the false vacuum of space will not compensate for hawking's radiation.


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lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
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lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
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Zenma says:

"lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
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he managed to move a black hole that was threatening the JLA base. A feat which practically no other character has matched so far whatsoever.


Zenma says:

"lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
Post Edited:2008-05-28 21:03:37"

he managed to move a black hole that was threatening the JLA base. A feat which practically no other character has matched so far whatsoever.


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It is difficult to estimate the trength of such beings.

Was Doomsday stronger than Superman at the time of Superman death ? Probably yes.

Is he stronger than Supermna now ? I would say no.

Although Doomsday can regenerate stronger than before I don't think he did. He regenerated with more durability to kinectic/physical attack - making him immune to Supermans strength at the time of their original conflict. Now if Doomsday had been crushed to death then he may come back with enhanced strength to combat this level of crushing force. It all depends upon the nature of what killed him.

I think that Superman is stronger now as he has gone through a couple of power upgrades since his fight with Doomsday. The main upgrade being whan he was repowered after his 'rebirth' at the hands of the Eradicator, after which the Parasite had to bleed some energy back off Superman as he was swollen with power. There is evidence however with his subsequent feats to show that Superman is certainly more powerful now.

So Doomsday is stronger than Superman when they first clashed.


It is difficult to estimate the trength of such beings.

Was Doomsday stronger than Superman at the time of Superman death ? Probably yes.

Is he stronger than Supermna now ? I would say no.

Although Doomsday can regenerate stronger than before I don't think he did. He regenerated with more durability to kinectic/physical attack - making him immune to Supermans strength at the time of their original conflict. Now if Doomsday had been crushed to death then he may come back with enhanced strength to combat this level of crushing force. It all depends upon the nature of what killed him.

I think that Superman is stronger now as he has gone through a couple of power upgrades since his fight with Doomsday. The main upgrade being whan he was repowered after his 'rebirth' at the hands of the Eradicator, after which the Parasite had to bleed some energy back off Superman as he was swollen with power. There is evidence however with his subsequent feats to show that Superman is certainly more powerful now.

So Doomsday is stronger than Superman when they first clashed.


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Dreadnaught says:

"Zenma says:
"lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
Post Edited:2008-05-28 21:03:37"

he managed to move a black hole that was threatening the JLA base. A feat which practically no other character has matched so far whatsoever."

Thats because he moved a blackhole. I don't know if you haven't noticed lol but you can't move or close a blackhole. Its impossible. Superman also one time moved a few planets while a chain was right through them?? The chain should have slip right through then and what happens when he stops. So some feats like that even though most are fake some are way off to even be counted as a feat. Moving a planet yeah with his bare hands. But closing a blackhole is ridiculous.

brainiac 1.0 says:

"doomsdayHow many tons can doomsday lift. Can he lift a mountain like World War Hulk. Can he pick up a moon. Can doomsday move planets what. I just want to know how many tons can doomsday lift. And also show feats if you can please."

Your wrong. Hulk support no mountain. It was like a small portion or rock and even then hulk had help from two other heroes. He never support the whole thing and probably not even half of it.

As for doomsday strength. I would do it like wendigo vs hulk as doomsday vs superman. Doomsday would have had to be some where around 150 or probably less. Superman little over 100 I guess. Doomsday however even if as strong as superman can't or doesn't move planets. People don't know thats kind of a pointless feat. People don't know that when you can't fly you can't move what your standing on either. He could probably destroy a planet with his bare hands which is even stronger feat but he was smart enough to know he'd be floating in space for a while.


Dreadnaught says:

"Zenma says:
"lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
Post Edited:2008-05-28 21:03:37"

he managed to move a black hole that was threatening the JLA base. A feat which practically no other character has matched so far whatsoever."

Thats because he moved a blackhole. I don't know if you haven't noticed lol but you can't move or close a blackhole. Its impossible. Superman also one time moved a few planets while a chain was right through them?? The chain should have slip right through then and what happens when he stops. So some feats like that even though most are fake some are way off to even be counted as a feat. Moving a planet yeah with his bare hands. But closing a blackhole is ridiculous.

brainiac 1.0 says:

"doomsdayHow many tons can doomsday lift. Can he lift a mountain like World War Hulk. Can he pick up a moon. Can doomsday move planets what. I just want to know how many tons can doomsday lift. And also show feats if you can please."

Your wrong. Hulk support no mountain. It was like a small portion or rock and even then hulk had help from two other heroes. He never support the whole thing and probably not even half of it.

As for doomsday strength. I would do it like wendigo vs hulk as doomsday vs superman. Doomsday would have had to be some where around 150 or probably less. Superman little over 100 I guess. Doomsday however even if as strong as superman can't or doesn't move planets. People don't know thats kind of a pointless feat. People don't know that when you can't fly you can't move what your standing on either. He could probably destroy a planet with his bare hands which is even stronger feat but he was smart enough to know he'd be floating in space for a while.


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zee crusher says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"Zenma says:
"lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
Post Edited:2008-05-28 21:03:37"
he managed to move a black hole that was threatening the JLA base. A feat which practically no other character has matched so far whatsoever."
Thats because he moved a blackhole. I don't know if you haven't noticed lol but you can't move or close a blackhole. Its impossible. Superman also one time moved a few planets while a chain was right through them?? The chain should have slip right through then and what happens when he stops. So some feats like that even though most are fake some are way off to even be counted as a feat. Moving a planet yeah with his bare hands. But closing a blackhole is ridiculous. brainiac 1.0 says:
"doomsday How many tons can doomsday lift. Can he lift a mountain like World War Hulk. Can he pick up a moon. Can doomsday move planets what. I just want to know how many tons can doomsday lift. And also show feats if you can please."
Your wrong. Hulk support no mountain. It was like a small portion or rock and even then hulk had help from two other heroes. He never support the whole thing and probably not even half of it. As for doomsday strength. I would do it like wendigo vs hulk as doomsday vs superman. Doomsday would have had to be some where around 150 or probably less. Superman little over 100 I guess. Doomsday however even if as strong as superman can't or doesn't move planets. People don't know thats kind of a pointless feat. People don't know that when you can't fly you can't move what your standing on either. He could probably destroy a planet with his bare hands which is even stronger feat but he was smart enough to know he'd be floating in space for a while."

Your partly right. He didn't support a mountain but the weight he was supporting was greater than anyone else has ever been shown to hold up. And he didn't get help holding it only getting out.

And please don't sasy Hercules holding the world on his shoulder because it didn't happen.


zee crusher says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"Zenma says:
"lifting a black hole? i don't think there is any land mass that can support a black hole, but it may be possible to move it, but if you're saying that superman can lift the weight of a black hole then ok
Post Edited:2008-05-28 21:03:37"
he managed to move a black hole that was threatening the JLA base. A feat which practically no other character has matched so far whatsoever."
Thats because he moved a blackhole. I don't know if you haven't noticed lol but you can't move or close a blackhole. Its impossible. Superman also one time moved a few planets while a chain was right through them?? The chain should have slip right through then and what happens when he stops. So some feats like that even though most are fake some are way off to even be counted as a feat. Moving a planet yeah with his bare hands. But closing a blackhole is ridiculous. brainiac 1.0 says:
"doomsday How many tons can doomsday lift. Can he lift a mountain like World War Hulk. Can he pick up a moon. Can doomsday move planets what. I just want to know how many tons can doomsday lift. And also show feats if you can please."
Your wrong. Hulk support no mountain. It was like a small portion or rock and even then hulk had help from two other heroes. He never support the whole thing and probably not even half of it. As for doomsday strength. I would do it like wendigo vs hulk as doomsday vs superman. Doomsday would have had to be some where around 150 or probably less. Superman little over 100 I guess. Doomsday however even if as strong as superman can't or doesn't move planets. People don't know thats kind of a pointless feat. People don't know that when you can't fly you can't move what your standing on either. He could probably destroy a planet with his bare hands which is even stronger feat but he was smart enough to know he'd be floating in space for a while."

Your partly right. He didn't support a mountain but the weight he was supporting was greater than anyone else has ever been shown to hold up. And he didn't get help holding it only getting out.

And please don't sasy Hercules holding the world on his shoulder because it didn't happen.