Nice but..When is Tim Drake gonna hit it big? lol

As a whole I'm not crazy about the direction they are taking Dick, but I'm happy that they are trying something different. Also, what's the worst that can happen?

Also, I won't deny, that the winter soldier similarities are plentiful here.

Actually the "verse" part comes from the latin "versum", which means something rotating,changed. The whole word means "everything rotated as one".

Still your previous quote was awesome :-P

I commend DC for trying something new here. They're taking the character out of his comfort zone, and putting him in a new situation. This is much better to see then DC doing nothing, and being content with him just doing his usual thing. This shows they care. That they do want to try new things with Dick, and that they aren't content with leaving him stuck and just spinning his wheels.

Dicks never been a superspy before, and Spyrl hasn't really been explored. So this is new and uncharted territory for Dick, and somthing that could potentially fill the hole DC left him with by ripping the Titans side away from him. Will it be the same, no, but thats ok. Its still something. I don't want to see him do the same things over again anyway. Here he can build new connections with Spyrl, and accomplish new things.

And hes distinct enough that just because hes gonna try the superspy thing it doesn't mean hes gonna turn into Bucky Barnes. And unlike Bucky being a superspy is foreign to Dick. Where being a superhero (Captain America) was foreign to Bucky. Which is part of what made Bucky's Cap run interesting. He was out of his element. Versatile characters can be put in different roles and still be the characters we enjoy. We saw this when Dick became batman.

One of the biggest complaints about Higgins series is that it was ordinary. Changing things up, and thrusting characters in new unexpected and uncharted territory for them is a way u keep things from being ordinary. Complacency is not much better than death for a character like Dick Grayson.

Haha I've never thought of it like that. They really are just like Superboy-Prime!

@herokiller12344: Still, we'll probably get lots of guest-appearances. My money is on Batman and maybe Jason Todd for a couple of issues

This is still a weird direction but hopefully they can convince me otherwise. I have no idea what Spyral is and I hope this and Batman Eternal doesnt get too lost in any kind of Batman Inc. material. I love really grounded characters that dont really have any super abilities such as Batman and Green Arrow so I hope this is a good change in hindsight.

I also wonder how Kyle Higgins feels about this as well as if he will have any input in the future. I was just here and there with his run on Nightwing but I always felt it was going in the right direction.

This change isn't consistent with the mythology of the character, but let's have change for the sake of change. Next month, let's make Superman a golfer just because it hasn't been done before.

@jonny_anonymous: Why have you taken it a pawn yourself to champion for this concept? Your not going to change anyone's opinion like they are not going to change yours. At the end of the day love it or hate it this is just a change to have Dick do something when Batman Eternal is going on. Seeing how connected this is to Morrison's run I do not see the creative team staying for a large amount of time without huge editorial differences.

@jonny_anonymous: AMEN TO THAT ONE. People cry when the stories are the same and when they change stuff up and try new angles its 'give me back the good ol stuff *Insert comic publisher here* this isn't the character i know'

Eh. Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. eh.

@thewalkingdeadpool18: If anything, A.R.G.U.S. is the S.H.I.E.L.D. ripoff, Spyral doesn't really have much in common with S.H.I.E.L.D. other than being spy agencies. Not that it really matters though.

As to the whole Dick thing, meh, it's hard for me to care when I know this won't last very long.

Also, I can't help of thinking of what Wondie went through in the late 60s when she gave up her powers and the WW identity, becoming a kung fu expert Diana Prince.

You know what, DC's attempt to create the New 52 was a great idea UNTIL they forgot to erase certain Batman characters. Everyone else's origin actually works, except Batman's. They wanted to fit all the events from a past continuity that spanned more than 20 years into 5 little wee years. If that's the case, erase Nightwing and make him Robin. At least we could watch Dick grow into Nightwing and then root for him as he's changed into something else. Hell, Jason Todd's death by the Syndicate would have been a great buildup point for his return as the Red Hood a year or two down the line. When there's been a 5 year later storyline Damian could pop up. I think I'm forgetting Tim Drake, who's storyline is pretty good, except in TT it doesn't feel like these are kids who USED to be sidekicks. Anywho, let me rap this up and say that Dick as a secret agent doesn't feel quite right unless he's wearing a mask. Shit, a full cover mask isn't asking for much.

@fragmentmind: But he's so pretty. Why would u want to cover that up.

I can deal with Dick being "Agent Grayson" I mean it's only going to last a year And it may add a new dynamic to his character. I wouldn't mind at the end of this seeing Dick (In his Nightwing persona) becoming the head of the organization

i dont like seeing him with a gun

It's pretty silly to be a secret agent once everyone knows who you already are. I thought we got past that when Daniel Craig took over the Bond series. Apparently the comic books need to have a go of it.

@extremis: Everybody thinks he's dead.

@the_stegman: true he is but i MUCH rather see him as nightwing on his own then in some spy team, it seems every bat-member has to join a group like redhood and the outlaws and tim drake in teen titans

I was hoping for a costume more like this, just no mask. Or logos.

Or this

This could go either way depending on the writing.

Terrible idea. Nightwing was simply great. Super spy...pfft...

The batfamily has a code for no guns. Batman does indeed care that Red Hood uses a gun, that's why hes death to him.

Clearly you don't actually read the Batman comics.

Sounds cool, I'm in.

I avoided reading the spoiler article on purpose because I hate spoilers. So I want to thank you for putting a spoiler in the synopsis on the main page.

@dud317: What spoilers?

Maybe this can serve as an opportunity to come up with good stories for tim as he can fill the void of ex-sidekick gone solo role like he did pre-new 52 when dick stopped being Nightwing and became Batman...it's been a struggle finding a purpose for each character hopefully DC won't squander this opportunity to find direction for the Bat-family.

@phantomartist: Buying all the comics should definitely get a Nightwing series back [/sarcasm]

@jonny_anonymous: Is that a BAZOOKA???

@blackhawk000111: haha yea

@jonny_anonymous: COOL

And people get their jimmies rustled just for a small gun :-P

So they ran out of stories to craft using his Nightwing persona and did a 180 turn on his character and call it creativity? I call it laziness.

@mapuia_ralte: Can you tell me next weeks lottery numbers?

I think this will be an interesting new direction for Dick. Hope it is good

Just a couple points. One, Dick Grayson was a police officer for a couple years during the Chuck Dixon and of course carried a gun. He and Bruce had arguments over his choice to carry one but Dick stuck by his decision to fight crime and help others in and out of costume. So Dick using a gun is nothing that hasn't been done already. Two, bandwagon fanboys who have suddenly become winter soldier experts after watching the recent movie are more than welcome to not buy the new Grayson series of it's too much of a "ripoff" for them to handle. I'll definitely be getting the series.

@jonny_anonymous: I wish it was Batman holding the bazooka, that way I could call it the "Batzooka". Oh well, "Nightwingzooka" it is, then.

Wont that not matter once people see him without the mask? If he had a mask on they'd think it was just a guy in a mask. Now they see him and it's like "oh, Dick Grayson's still alive".

Damnit Dick. Why didn't you don your Red X persona and do mercenary work with Deathstroke..

I have been trying to process this. When it was first rumored that he was gonna live after all, and be in a book called 'Grayson' I was all like 'woo!' cus I like the character. Then I saw this and I was like 'whaaaaat?' I mean, a spy book set in the DCU? that would be fine. ... with Dick Grayson as the spy? that's just... weird. It feels like it goes against what the character is all about. If they address that in the story, if tehy have him questioning them and stating that he feels out of place, it could maaaaybe work, i guess... but overall this feels more like something that is just a poor fit for the character. But, I will wait and see...

@godlike130: He maybe gorgeous, no homo, but he needs a mask!!!! Or glasses.

its not about the tools of the trade but the trade itself. Dicks life has being about the super hero life from fighting villians,teaming up with heroes, leading heroes, watching over a city .How does a james bond super spy life connect to the super hero world?

Pretty easily if you ask Black Widow

@jonny_anonymous:

former leader of various titan members one time outsiders leader two time justice league leader worked in 4 cities as a crime fighter. dick was heavy on the super hero life.He didnt just show up when major events happened and with richard grayson dead and known to be dead to all his firends in and out of capes the cape world will be off limits.Now that he works without a mask he can have no interaction with any hero whatso ever since everyone from top tier to low tier heroes will remember the guy who the syndicate ousted and killed.Leaving super spying as his only trade.And in marvel their spies sometimes work with the heroes to save the day DC has spies on the heores to keep tract of them to eliminate them .

I know exactly what is going happen! Batman and Lex start fighting an army of some sort and just when Batman is about to die he wakes up and it was all a dream.

This is a bad thing. A really bad thing. I understand why I dropped the New 52. Outside of Batman I struggled to enjoy some of the books I read. I am an old school DC head. I wish they would have just tweaked the old universe as opposed to scorch earthing the entire thing.

My prediction of the Dick Grayson thing is that they would "Kill" him off and change his name to John Blake. I don't get this move. Maybe it's an attempt to distance him from Batman. I think it's one of the worst ideas DC has come up with. Why would you expose his identity and his name now you have him walking around with a G on his chest? Am I missing something?

It all comes back round to the great Grant Morrison...

@jonny_anonymous: The following which is the synopsis from the Off My Mind post on the main page (News), not the forum link.

He's hanging up the tights and become a secret agent. Will that be a good or bad thing?