If Dick becomes Batman, then Batman won't stay dead since *ba dum tsh* Dick is Batman, just like Bucky is Cap.

Btw Batman #666 might help fill out the missing pieces

So Action Comics is using the same plot as "Star Trek the search for Spoke" in terms of aging Zod's kid? The growing pains, the chick cradling him in her arms, the speedy cellular growth, etc etc. I have a question about the whole continuity between Action Comics, and whats taking place in Batman Battle for the Cowl. Do they coincide? You'd  think the villains of the DCU would be staging a major take over with both Batman and Superman missing. Does anyone in the Batverse make mention of Superman's departure? Thats pretty big news to have go unnoticed.

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If nightwing does take over the cowl, could it be that it will only be for a short period of time until the above event happens?
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"I have a question about the whole continuity between Action Comics, and whats taking place in Batman Battle for the Cowl. Do they coincide? You'd  think the villains of the DCU would be staging a major take over with both Batman and Superman missing. "

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I seriously doubt Nightwing's going to become Batman. Just cause he's the logical and most worthy character to take up the mantle doesn't mean he will. It also makes the whole "Battle for the Cowl" pretty much pointless if the obvious choice ends up with the Cowl. They could have saved some time (and us money) if that's what they intend to do.

Nightwing is the most obvious but so was Bucky.  Also with the certain gun-totting 'hero' already claiming to be Batman in BFTC #1, we still have that to deal with.  Nightwing may finally grow a pair and decide to claim the mantle for himself.

Nightwing's man card got pulled along time ago (we all know what I'm talking about to :P). But you do have a point about Bucky. I however am betting on a wild card to take up the mantle. Someone fans never saw coming.

Nightwing, is awesome the way he is, i want him to stay like that.

I agree.  Nightwing should stay Nightwing as Robin should stay Robin and Batman should stay Batman.  I don't see the need to mix things up.  Sure characters need to progress but they can still keep their identities.  Most characters don't change their names all the time.  It's up to the writers to take the existing character and do something with them.  Just changing a name and giving them a new costume seems too easy.

I like Nightwing as Nightwing....Im upset they cancelled his comic....even if he does become batman...it wont be the same...and I can't see them honestly keeping bruce wayne gone for long

Let's be honest, Battle for the cowl could have been named "Nightwing: Like father like son" or something like that

For me it's obvious that battle for the cowl is all about the build-up for Dick to become Batman because otherwise, it would feel anti-climatic

Considering the various series comming either Dick dies or becomes Batman considering how there's no sign of Nightwing in the future projects and let's be honest, there's no way that DC is getting rid of the two most popular members of the bat family at the same time.

But they don't always solicit everything...

I do think the fact that they're calling Lor-Zod Nightwing is saying something.  I suppose one way to look at is Dick was Robin for a loooong time and then changed to Nightwing.  So you never know.  Maybe DC will actually surprise us.  Common sense says everything would return to the status quo eventually but who knows.

Why hasn't Babs posted in here? We spent hours discussing how BftC will play out!

I think a third option could be a name change.  I don't really think that'd would happen but that's what I was getting at about him changing his name before.

i just have this problem with really getting to involved with the series

Not necessarily.  Damien's been wearing that Robin-esque costume for a while.

We all have to assume Bruce will be back.  But it's a question of is it a good enough ride to enjoy?

"Not necessarily.  Damien's been wearing that Robin-esque costume for a while.

"I think a third option could be a name change.  I don't really think that'd would happen but that's what I was getting at about him changing his name before.
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dick deserves to be batman cause come on he was the first robin the boy wonder and probly best known robin of them all.  Plus you have to remember dick lead the original teen titans outsiders and has been a member of the JLA also he's probly the best choice cause jason todd's way to agressive, Damian has issues, so the logical choices are tim and dick.  hope they dont make a stupid mistake by making someone stupid batman like jason todd

I just say never fully trust the solicits.  That's all I'm going to (and am allowed) to say...

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If nightwing does take over the cowl, could it be that it will only be for a short period of time until the above event happens?
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Was Dick, Red Robin in Kingdom Come I forgot if he was.

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""As I've said before, Dick needs to get over it and become Batman"

The role of Batman can never be replicated because it was a role created out of a personal event that Bruce as a child experienced. It is the result of a personal tragedy. BRUCE'S personal tragedy. (I know the history of Nightwing's parents so don't even try to bring that to the table as an argument.)
Having said that, I really don't think that Dick wants (nor will he take over,) as Batman. And I truly hope he doesn't seeing as (if you've read his books,) you'll know that he has spent the last, oh I don't know, 10 years or so trying to get away from Batman and moving away from that association in an attempt to formulate his OWN identity. By making Dick Batman they would ultimately be undermining I don't know how many years of continuity. And isn't that just so predictable though? Making Dick Grayson the next Batman? C'mon people. Surprise me already. I'm bored.

 Batman is supposed to be dark and brooding. If I wanted to read a character that cracked bad jokes all the time *cough*Nightwing*cough* I would pick up an issue of Spiderman.

Butttt as usual great review :)

I still see the role of Bruce Wayne as one that is a lot more personal than just donning the cape and cowl. Maybe I like depth to my characters. If Bruce has to die, let the cape and cowl die with him. Let's agree to disagree.

Oh and there's a reason why I don't like Terry McGinnis.

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Dude, Robin and Birds of Prey got canceled too. So could Tim or Huntress take over? It's a possibility as well.

Maybe Robin will be Batman!

"Dude, Robin and Birds of Prey got canceled too. So could Tim or Huntress take over? It's a possibility as well.
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And cassndra..... >.>

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I know they can't possibly let Batman die and stay dead, but if he were to then I would say just let him die and don't replace him because no one can replace arguably one of the greatest and most distinctive comic book characters of all time. Besides Nightwing, though the obvious choice certainly isnt the fit for the role of Batman....he should continue to be Nightwing....he is awesome as is.

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C'mon. If Nightwing becomes Batman they would have ruined (like babs said) 10 years of continuity, BUT WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT THAT ON DC ANYMORE!? They've become a "never-ending" Crapfest since 2005 with mega-events after mega-events, everybody knows what my POV of actual DC is. So i think Bruce Wayne will be back this year after Dick takes over the mantle for a couple months... Jason Todd will be Red Robin and Tim Drake will be Robin. I mean, they brought Hal Jordan and Barry Allen back after a decade or even two decades, Bruce was killed some months ago, but... Y'know being DiDio the man who introduced merciless murder, sexual assault and graphic violence to DCU. IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING.

Why can't there be two Nightwing's at the same time? There have been before. Powergirl was Nightwing only a few years ago.

Also, check out the IGN scans/quotes from Morrison on his new series. It's pretty blatant that the new Batman/Robin team is Dick/Damian.

I realize it wasn't a great story, but has everyone forgotten about "Prodigal Son" where Dick took on the mantle of the bat while Bruce did some soul-searching right after winning it back from Jean Paul Valley? Even back then, Dick didn't want to be Batman, so I don't think he'll be it by the end of BftC.

Yeah, the new Batman will most likely be Dick, (that page at the end of RIP says it all)........but it's been done before. So my "dark horse" is Jason Todd, the first Robin got a shot, now it's time for the second one. It's a long shot but maybe what he experiences in BFTC will change him.

I almost feel like there shouldn't be a new Batman. Bruce Wayne worked as Batman because of the origin story, to put that same mantle on another person seems stupid.

Change can be nice.  It's good to mix things up.  It can make some 'fresh' stories.  I don't think it's fully necessary though.  I get that it may be hard to write new and exciting adventures for characters that have been around for ever but that's part of the job.  I'm not crazy about the huge events or deaths to try to make things exciting.  There are other ways to do it.  I'd assume the change won't be permanent.  Especially in the midst of a successful movie franchise.  The non comic reading people would get confused if they picked up a book.  DC doesn't want that.  This is also why Captain America is working.  He's an iconic character and all but doesn't have all the media attention that Batman does.  I'm just gonna try to enjoy the ride while it lasts and hope it doesn't turn out to be a car wreck.

Um... am I the only comicvine.com user that is old enough to remember why Dick chose the name Nightwing?  I think its time that all of you go back and read the Marv Wolfman / George Perez run on Teen Titans.  Especially the Judas Contract stoyline.  You can probably find these in the 25 cent bin in alot of comic shops.  I found the whole storyline in the 5 for a dollar box.  Happy hunting!

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"Um... am I the only comicvine.com user that is old enough to remember why Dick chose the name Nightwing?
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Didn't know that Nightwings excisted before Dick Grayson

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