Has he ever beaten Batman ?

#1 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

has dick ever beat bruce one on one

#2 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

He might be able to ...in a drinking contest.

To answer your question, no. The last time they fought Batman outclassed him. To be fair, pre52 Nightwing/Dickbats has come a long way since then. With the reboot Batman is once again more battle tested while Nightwing is still a little green behind the ears. One day they'll fight again. I give Dick another year or so before he's ready for that encounter, he needs to build up a solid resume for himself until then.

#4 Posted by xtremekidx (576 posts) - - Show Bio

@Agenda said:

I wish. I prefer Nightwing over Batman :p

This!

#5 Edited by Nathaniel_Christopher (1669 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish, but Dick's never been portrayed with that kind of skill. Though neither have any of his "brothers' so it's not all bad I suppose. That being said, Dick's more skills than Bruce was at that age, but not as skilled as Bruce is now. It's all a matter of training and experience I think.

#6 Posted by Lightburst (163 posts) - - Show Bio

@Agenda said:

I wish. I prefer Nightwing over Batman :p

This, one day he might then DCU will reset from the outrage of batman fan hate that Nightwing beat the bat.

#8 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

I prefer Nightwing to Batman and I like both of them a lot.

#9 Edited by Lightburst (163 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

I was Afraid my first reply from you would be you telling me off... whew that fear is over.

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

I prefer Nightwing to Batman and I like both of them a lot.

@Agenda: Dick is awesome :) but I still like the bat.

#10 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1669 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lightburst said:

@John Valentine said:

I was Afraid my first reply from you would be you telling me off... whew that fear is over.

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

I prefer Nightwing to Batman and I like both of them a lot.

@Agenda: Dick is awesome :) but I still like the bat.

Batman's cool. Nightwing's cooler lol

#11 Posted by richardjohngrayson (436 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@Lightburst said:

@John Valentine said:

I was Afraid my first reply from you would be you telling me off... whew that fear is over.

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

I prefer Nightwing to Batman and I like both of them a lot.

@Agenda: Dick is awesome :) but I still like the bat.

Batman's cool. Nightwing's cooler lol

Pretty much. :)
#12 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

You're not alone, trust me. :)

#13 Posted by Nightwing4 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

Wish he would sometime, then cut loose and put Shiva in her place. New 52 Shiva is annoying.

#14 Posted by Lapsus (26 posts) - - Show Bio

In this new running lose TOOO much.

He should get more respect.

#15 Edited by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

He needs to stay far, far away from jobber status. The ending of Batman Inc 7 left me cringing..

edit: (screw u Tim)

#16 Posted by Nightwing_Beyond (160 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Nightwing did defeat William Cobb with much less effort than Batman so that's a start. I'd go as far to say that Nightwing is the better combatant in terms of raw talent but, Batman can still beat him with experience on his side. If anyone can beat the Bat that isn't a Kryptonian god-like being, it would be Dick Grayson. Dick stared into the same abyss as Batman (death of his parents) but, he didn't blink (meaning he didn't let his parents deaths rule him like Bruce).

#17 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8869 posts) - - Show Bio

This obsession amongst Nightwing fans with him beating Batman is both trite and sad

#18 Posted by bilwit (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

I prefer Nightwing to Batman and I like both of them a lot.

I prefer Nightwing as Batman. Do I win?

#19 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@bilwit said:

@John Valentine said:

@Agenda said:

@xtremekidx: @Lightburst:

lol I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who likes Nightwing better.

I prefer Nightwing to Batman and I like both of them a lot.

I prefer Nightwing as Batman. Do I win?

Nightwing as Nightwing.

#20 Posted by Dernman (15160 posts) - - Show Bio

He hasn't to my knowledge nor should he. Liking a character better is no reason for him to be better any more then it is to make him worse. 
For the record thougfh I believe Nightwing is more agile and maybe faster.

#21 Posted by SuperJedi17 (300 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crom-Cruach said:

This obsession amongst Nightwing fans with him beating Batman is both trite and sad

Try not to be disrespectful dude.

Anyway,i kinda wish i could see them fight,even though bats would win.Maybe a sparring session or something.I think it'd be nice to see how close Dick is to Bruce in terms of pure skill.Without gadgets,escrima sticks,etc.

#22 Edited by bilwit (7 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Nightwing is incredibly weak. He got his ass kicked by Batgirl and routinely gets his ass kicked to a bloody pulp in his own title over and over and over again. It's pretty tiresome.

#23 Posted by God_Spawn (37950 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightwing_Beyond said:

Well Nightwing did defeat William Cobb with much less effort than Batman so that's a start. I'd go as far to say that Nightwing is the better combatant in terms of raw talent but, Batman can still beat him with experience on his side. If anyone can beat the Bat that isn't a Kryptonian god-like being, it would be Dick Grayson. Dick stared into the same abyss as Batman (death of his parents) but, he didn't blink (meaning he didn't let his parents deaths rule him like Bruce).

Nightwing beat Cobb using their weakness to cold. He used an environmental factor rather than straight up beat him. Nightwing also admitted he most likely wouldn't beat Cobb even if he were at full considering he wasn't up to par. He really has no reason to lie to himself in inner monologue like that so he isn't better in area of fighting except he is more agile.

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#24 Posted by God_Spawn (37950 posts) - - Show Bio

One of the times they fought, Nightwing couldn't even land a hit on Bruce. I haven't seen anything to suggest if they were to fight today, anything would be different.

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#25 Posted by Nightwing_Beyond (160 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@Nightwing_Beyond said:

Well Nightwing did defeat William Cobb with much less effort than Batman so that's a start. I'd go as far to say that Nightwing is the better combatant in terms of raw talent but, Batman can still beat him with experience on his side. If anyone can beat the Bat that isn't a Kryptonian god-like being, it would be Dick Grayson. Dick stared into the same abyss as Batman (death of his parents) but, he didn't blink (meaning he didn't let his parents deaths rule him like Bruce).

Nightwing beat Cobb using their weakness to cold. He used an environmental factor rather than straight up beat him. Nightwing also admitted he most likely wouldn't beat Cobb even if he were at full considering he wasn't up to par. He really has no reason to lie to himself in inner monologue like that so he isn't better in area of fighting except he is more agile.

I would attribute that admission in his monologue to his modest attidude that has been set to the max since him taking up the mantle of Batman. A good example of his modest character can be found in Gates of Gotham where he always bashes himself and puts Bruce and even Tim on higher pedestals than himself. He believes in what he says yet, I always find that Dick is stronger than he gives himself credit for. As for him using an environmental factor to beat Cobb, it's just straight out of the Batman playbook, planning ahead and luring a more powerful foe into a trap. Despite what his modesty doesn't let him see, Dick did defeat a foe that Batman has also faced and defeated him faster than Batman did not at full strength and after facing another Talon. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe Dick is ready to challenge Batman but, I think his victory against Cobb was attributed to his raw talent as a fighter because of him holding out against Cobb with his injuries. I don't think I'm just seeing what I'd like to see despite my love for the character. I think DC is building up Nightwing to someday equal (not exceed) his mentor and revive the ultimate dynamic duo someday. Wouldn't that be a kickass book to read? I'd call it something like, "The Dynamic Duo Returns", or just, "The Dynamic Duo". This is quite a stretch but, that's where I see Nightwing going in the New 52.

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