Does he need a job?

#1 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

Earlier last month I made a blog concerning Dick's economical status in Gotham, He's 21 and living on his own again. We don't know if Dick's graduated from college, living off of Bruce or what the hell his situation is. What is clear though, is that he's looking to settle down again after the whole sordid circus affair. Does he bask in the glory of fame and fortune or should he start a career? I liked him as a cop in Bludhaven, the museum curator gig wasn't too bad either(made him more of a historian to contrast Tim's technical savvy imo). I thought opening a casino like Thomas Wayne did in flashpoint would be badass. Or an even cooler thought...building an orphanage for Gotham's homeless children. People would love him for ever and ever <3 <3 unicorns <3 and who knows, maybe Nightwing could sneak in and secretly teach them to fight crime! Kyle if you're reading this........!!!

#2 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin: I loved him as a cop, but I don't think that he should need it in financially.

#3 Posted by Billy Batson (58150 posts) - - Show Bio

that lazy bum should get a job.
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#4 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

that lazy bum should get a job.
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Trololololol.

#5 Posted by Billy Batson (58150 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

that lazy bum should get a job.
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Trololololol.

and stop trolling on the internet
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#6 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

that lazy bum should get a job.
BB

Trololololol.

and stop trolling on the internet
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Because I generally troll in real life...

#7 Posted by Billy Batson (58150 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

that lazy bum should get a job.
BB

Trololololol.

and stop trolling on the internet
BB

Because I generally troll in real life...

Who doesn't.
But this isn't about you. It's about NIGHTWING!!! Pay attention, mr top poster.
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#8 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

@ReVamp said:

@Billy Batson said:

that lazy bum should get a job.
BB

Trololololol.

and stop trolling on the internet
BB

Because I generally troll in real life...

Who doesn't.
But this isn't about you. It's about NIGHTWING!!! Pay attention, mr top poster.
BB

You make me want to cut myself, for derailing a Grayson thread.

Shut up.

#9 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson:

@ReVamp:

Once again, lol, thanx so much guys for humbling my little thread. I just don't see him ever growing into his own if he continually freeloads from Bruce. Atleast Tim earned the head position/inheritance by contributing to the company. Who knows that may just have been a dick move on DC's part as well, or a means for Grayson to focus on the more pressing, bat-related issues.

#10 Posted by X9 (765 posts) - - Show Bio

Haha, the orphanage idea was nice.

Honestly, I didn't use to like him as a cop. I mean it didn't match with his Dick public persona.

Plus, he's already a crime fighter, being a cop was kind of redundant :P

#11 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@X9 said:

Haha, the orphanage idea was nice.

Honestly, I didn't use to like him as a cop. I mean it didn't match with his Dick public persona.

Plus, he's already a crime fighter, being a cop was kind of redundant :P

  1. Which Public Persona?
  2. Not for the story arc in which it took place.
#12 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@X9: I thought he did it out of necessity, he was trying to clean up the streets but he had to follow the trail of bread crumbs left by his dirtbag coworkers. But no, a regular joe cop doesn't suit him. He's a humanitarian first and a law enforcer later. In fact, the world would be a much better place if Bruce were commissioner and Dick the philanthropist AMIRITE?

#13 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin said:

@X9: I thought he did it out of necessity, he was trying to clean up the streets but he had to follow the trail of bread crumbs left by his dirtbag coworkers. But no, a regular joe cop doesn't suit him. He's a humanitarian first and a law enforcer later. In fact, the world would be a much better place if Bruce were commissioner and Dick the philanthropist AMIRITE?

What happened is that he took the job so that he could find out which cops were corrupted and root them out.

#14 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm finding myself more inclined to him being jobless atm because now his focus is on crime and he doesn't have any obligations. If only he could work on his redhead fetish now

#15 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp: Yep... can't remember what happened to Amy Rohrbach though. I think she survived Chemo but I can't be sure

#16 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin said:

I'm finding myself more inclined to him being jobless atm because now his focus is on crime and he doesn't have any obligations. If only he could work on his redhead fetish now

I like his Redhead fetish...

#17 Posted by TheOptimist (713 posts) - - Show Bio

I like him a little more unemployed... it offers him a lot of flexibility, and unlike many other characters, I don't think a job would expand his character but rather would restrict it. When acting as an officer of the law, it was certainly a positive growth for the character, but that has been done. The character, for me, is one of the better 'jack of all trades' type personas, which allows him so many storytelling opportunities. The current 'owner/manager/performer' thing that he has going right now fits well with this, because it isn't a restrictive commitment in my mind.

#18 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheOptimist said:

I like him a little more unemployed... it offers him a lot of flexibility, and unlike many other characters, I don't think a job would expand his character but rather would restrict it. When acting as an officer of the law, it was certainly a positive growth for the character, but that has been done. The character, for me, is one of the better 'jack of all trades' type personas, which allows him so many storytelling opportunities. The current 'owner/manager/performer' thing that he has going right now fits well with this, because it isn't a restrictive commitment in my mind.

Yes but at the same time doesn't that same well roundedness limit his character? When you have a versatile, textbook hero who does everything well and has very little flaws it makes writing him difficult. Like Flash, or Superman it's hard to peg a vulnerability so unless they can channel something new from him, Dick Grayson risks becoming stale. When he was Batman, there wasn't a problem because he knew there were doubts and he was out to silence the criticism of his contemporaries. In the Nightwing role he's just too damn comfortable, and whether that's a blessing or curse we'll just have to wait and see.

#19 Posted by TheOptimist (713 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin: That is a fair enough point... although I see it more in the veins of him being capable at everything... but not really excelling at a majority of those things. He isn't the best detective, but he does have the basic trade skills. He isn't an amazon-level fighter, but he has down combat basics. From that perspective, every time he meets a challenge he is slightly beneath his opponent's level, just because they're more focused in a specific area... I see his true value as being able to combine his "meeting standard" level skills together in harmony... I see his weakness as being the most standard "pure human" character out there. That is also why I see him resonating well with the everyman comic reader... he isn't the best at anything (aside from trust) but he is strong skilled enough to hold his ground.

I think that, on the job front, the more interesting avenue is (just like his jack of trades nature) to have him dabble in a variety of things, but never pinhole him. Find jobs he can legitimately dabble in for a year and then comfortably transition out of to afford new direction, development and opportunities.

#20 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheOptimist said:

@SmoothJammin: That is a fair enough point... although I see it more in the veins of him being capable at everything... but not really excelling at a majority of those things. He isn't the best detective, but he does have the basic trade skills. He isn't an amazon-level fighter, but he has down combat basics. From that perspective, every time he meets a challenge he is slightly beneath his opponent's level, just because they're more focused in a specific area... I see his true value as being able to combine his "meeting standard" level skills together in harmony... I see his weakness as being the most standard "pure human" character out there. That is also why I see him resonating well with the everyman comic reader... he isn't the best at anything (aside from trust) but he is strong skilled enough to hold his ground.

I think that, on the job front, the more interesting avenue is (just like his jack of trades nature) to have him dabble in a variety of things, but never pinhole him. Find jobs he can legitimately dabble in for a year and then comfortably transition out of to afford new direction, development and opportunities.

My theory is much the same. The way he measures up against the others in Batman's stead is proof that he doesn't have to rely heavily on any one gift. Instead, he's so fundamentally sound that years of extensive training allow him to be economical in everything he does, and multifaceted to the point where he can be 2nd best in nearly every category--and still excel among his peers. A very basic skill set but one you and I can identify with and appreciate. Consummately, he's the effort guy. Fleet footed and intuitive.

As an aside, his leadership qualities are severely underrated and if he's not on a team book then his potenital is being spoiled. I'd argue Dick's skill of rallying>Bruces. I was very upset to hear that much of his origins with the Teen Titans had been altered. It would also be nice to see him delve into a medical career, in an effort to differentiate him from Bruce further. That's one thing Batman doesn't have and could serve as a foil. It also makes you think outside the box a little, what if Bruce views Dick as the happy son he should've turned out to be..

#21 Posted by TheOptimist (713 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin: Nice thought! I really like the medical angle... it would be really interestingly done as a character comparison to Thomas Wayne... following in the footsteps where Bruce never did... yeah, I'm digging that idea. (His Teen Titans origin is still slightly in effect, to an extent we do not yet know). The only limitations of really building a career would be the restriction on teamwork (at least if we were to pretend to be realistic). But I could totally back the medical path for Grayson.

#22 Posted by Telcalipoca (959 posts) - - Show Bio

as an adoptive son of an absurdly rich man who funds his costume needs(buying bases,cars, planes etc.) he doesnt need one. Nor does he need to do something whithin the company to earn those funds. A bulk of the wayne fortune is meant to fund batman and those he chooses endevours so long as he continues fighting crime hes using the funds as accordingly .But i would like him to do something during his daytime that wont require him to use tight clothing or only see him during his night job. Dick is a peoples person getting along well with other heroes and people not in the tight clothing business . getting some sort of job is the only way ill see him interact with the sane population, but like when he was a cop in bludheaven or helping out run the forensic machine in gotham, whatever he does in non pajamas has to be in some way related to what he does at night to help him out.

#23 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Telcalipoca: He must make some royalty money off of Haly's circus, it behooves him to invest those funds wisely into something that might prove useful later on. Building an orphanage like I mentioned above, puts his name out there among Gotham's socialites. People do it all the time. As founder he can keep a watchful eye from a distance allowing him the flexibility to tend to crimefighting or what have you.

#24 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin said:

@Telcalipoca: He must make some royalty money off of Haly's circus, it behooves him to invest those funds wisely into something that might prove useful later on. Building an orphanage like I mentioned above, puts his name out there among Gotham's socialites. People do it all the time. As founder he can keep a watchful eye from a distance allowing him the flexibility to tend to crimefighting or what have you.

I'm pretty sure he's still going to have the fund money Lucius arranged. Money isn't really the issue here.

#25 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@SmoothJammin said:

@Telcalipoca: He must make some royalty money off of Haly's circus, it behooves him to invest those funds wisely into something that might prove useful later on. Building an orphanage like I mentioned above, puts his name out there among Gotham's socialites. People do it all the time. As founder he can keep a watchful eye from a distance allowing him the flexibility to tend to crimefighting or what have you.

I'm pretty sure he's still going to have the fund money Lucius arranged. Money isn't really the issue here.

Yes but if he applied his strengths to his work, like people pleasing, his stock might just raise a little. Networking with Bruces business partners, the mayor, GCPD like we saw in Tec..it does wonders for him. It's not like he doesn't have the time. Jason traveled the world to learn different trades, Tim...is Tim but Grayson's just been straight bum.lmao.

#26 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin said:

@ReVamp said:

@SmoothJammin said:

@Telcalipoca: He must make some royalty money off of Haly's circus, it behooves him to invest those funds wisely into something that might prove useful later on. Building an orphanage like I mentioned above, puts his name out there among Gotham's socialites. People do it all the time. As founder he can keep a watchful eye from a distance allowing him the flexibility to tend to crimefighting or what have you.

I'm pretty sure he's still going to have the fund money Lucius arranged. Money isn't really the issue here.

Yes but if he applied his strengths to his work, like people pleasing, his stock might just raise a little. Networking with Bruces business partners, the mayor, GCPD like we saw in Tec..it does wonders for him. It's not like he doesn't have the time. Jason traveled the world to learn different trades, Tim...is Tim but Grayson's just been straight bum.lmao.

Yeah, but I don't want him to have a job to be rich, because he already is. I want him to have a less-exquisite job, if you get what I mean.

#27 Posted by notquitevarsity (157 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't Dick get money from his parents. Plus the money from the circus, and the money he probably gets from Bruce I think he's set on money. I'd like to see him join a team, or use him time to get more crime fighting done instead of getting a job.

#28 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

Crap like we saw in Batman/Nightwing #7 is exactly why Dick needs to liberate himself from Bruce's tyranny. Batman can clock him clean on the jaw and Dick goes and takes it like a little b!tch. He's better then that. Then he just acknowledges Bruce and speeds off on his bike, seriously? WTF. Get ur sh!t together Grayson. You don't need him. He needs you. You guys really don't see anything wrong with that picture?

#29 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmoothJammin said:

Crap like we saw in Batman/Nightwing #7 is exactly why Dick needs to liberate himself from Bruce's tyranny. Batman can clock him clean on the jaw and Dick goes and takes it like a little b!tch. He's better then that. Then he just acknowledges Bruce and speeds off on his bike, seriously? WTF. Get ur sh!t together Grayson. You don't need him. He needs you. You guys really don't see anything wrong with that picture?

It wasn't tyranny at all. Not to mention its said that Bruce is "different" and thus extremely OOC, but he also showed him that he had prepared him to be a major assassin.

#30 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@SmoothJammin said:

Crap like we saw in Batman/Nightwing #7 is exactly why Dick needs to liberate himself from Bruce's tyranny. Batman can clock him clean on the jaw and Dick goes and takes it like a little b!tch. He's better then that. Then he just acknowledges Bruce and speeds off on his bike, seriously? WTF. Get ur sh!t together Grayson. You don't need him. He needs you. You guys really don't see anything wrong with that picture?

It wasn't tyranny at all. Not to mention its said that Bruce is "different" and thus extremely OOC, but he also showed him that he had prepared him to be a major assassin.

Was it absolutely necessary?

#31 Posted by nickzambuto (14115 posts) - - Show Bio

He's a part time male stripper.

#32 Posted by k4tzm4n (48734 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, it looks like he's about to use up his trust fund...

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#34 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1680 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of a job I believe the philanthropist angle is the best way to go. Leaves him a lot of freedom and allows him to get his hands into various parts of Gotham, and it goes well with his new role as the "Prince of Gotham" (Gonna be posting more about this later, but i'm excited about it!!!) Also, I was a little disappointed that during his 2nd tenure as Batman we didn't see him taking more of an interest in Wayne Industries. I know that Tim was handling that, but it really seemed like something Dick should've been more involved in.

#35 Posted by longbowhunter (7283 posts) - - Show Bio

Anybody remember when Dick was a museum curator in New York for like 5 issues?

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#36 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the idea of Dick having a regular job, but I think it should be something he can regularly do. I like the idea of him owning a business where he can hire a day-to-day manager but still drop in and help out with odd hours. A non-profit would be good.

#37 Posted by SmoothJammin (2334 posts) - - Show Bio

How upsetting is it going to be when Joker burns up everything Dick worked so hard to put into place. RIP Amusement Mile 2012-2012

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