I was having ideas about Blind Al, Weasel, Siryn, and their relationship to Deadpool in the Ultimate universe... I thought this would be a good place to start.

Blind Alexandra:

Deadpool's younger sister, in her late teens/early 20's. She's goth and kinda bratty, and blind. She's angry at the world for being blind, and she has resentment towards her brother for being born with a healing factor. Deadpool is her legal guardian and they squabble and play mean tricks on each other, like siblings do.

Their father left them before Al was born, and their mother was a drug addict who killed herself while Deadpool was still in the military, forcing him to leave to take care of his sister.

Black Tom:

Tom Cassidy works in the black market, selling weapons and various other illegal items.

Black Tom's best friend was an Irish immigrant and single father who died in a deal gone bad. In respect for his friend, Black Tom adopted his daughter and came to see her as his own. He pays people off for her and tries to give her the best.

Weasel:

Weasel, Jack Hammer, was in the army, but was harassed by other soldiers do to his meek stature and gruff name. Weasel and Deadpool were buddies and looked out for each other, but Weasel eventually left the army.

He later came into the employment of Black Tom as his most trusted lacky (and occasional scapegoat), which allowed Deadpool direct access to Black Tom (and good deals).

Siryn:

Theresa Rourke/Cassidy is Black Tom's adopted daughter who grew up with Black Tom's underhanded crowd, and hates them. She's an upright woman who tries to lead a good life despite her upbringing. She also tries to get through life on the up-and-up without Black Tom's interference.

Deadpool met Siryn through Black Tom and developed an infatuation with her, but she despises him because of his association with her "father."

Post Edited:2007-05-13 20:03:41

I thought as a gag, Deadpool could mess with Blind Al's clothes. Like... take this scenario (remember, Al's supposed to be goth)...

Random Person: Al, how do you know if the things you're wearing match?

Blind Al: Everything I own is black, I think they match.

Random Person: Then... why are you wearing a blue plaid skirt and a pink shirt that says "I believe in love at first sight"?

Blind Al: Wade!!!!

...Or another time...

Blind Al: What're these things on my glasses?

Deadpool: Spongebob stickers.

Blind Al: Why are there Spongebob stickers on my glasses??!

Deadpool: I thought you kids love Spongebob ::evil smile::.

Blind Al: There are three things wrong with what you just said: "I Thought" "You Kids" "Love Spongebob."

I like the Blind Alexandra idea but Ult Deadpool seemed more evil than funny.

Deadpool i love ur humor u are just like him

Thank you very much, Darkchild.

Bendis dropped the ball on Deadpool's humor... Spidey made me laugh more than Deadpool did, that wasn't right. You could also say that Deadpool was putting on a show for the cameras. When the cameras weren't on him, he seemed more respectable... and in my opinion, a little withdrawn.

Oh, and I should point out that it's my firm belief that Ultimate Deadpool is a mutant with the same indomitable regenerative abilities as 616 Deadpool.

But you must be asking "why would a mutant hunt mutants?" Well Ultimate Deadpool and the gang said it themselves, they don't like that any snot-nosed punk can have powers without earning them first.

Then you must be asking "Why would mutant-haters follow a mutant?" Well that can be answered pretty easily. Deadpool was a soldier, like them. They fought together in many battles and he climbed the ranks to being their commanding officer. To them, and himself, he earned his powers. And the next time he runs into Spider-Man or the X-Men, he'll probably think they earned their powers too.

You guys are now probably asking "if Ultimate Deadpool has that healing factor, how did he become a cyborg?" Well his healing factor is like a stream. If you try to cut the water, it just overlaps itself. But if you put a rock in the stream, the water will have to flow around it until the rock is removed.

The cybernetic implants is that rock. And after Shadowcat made that "rock" explode, the stream was able to correct it's flow. In other words, I think Deadpool will be very human-looking the next time we see him.

Post Edited:2007-04-04 22:03:03

deadpool u must do something with Blind Al I dig her

write her in somewhere man she rocks I would totally hang out with her

what can I say i love blind goths

lol, I'm glad you like her. I wanted Ultimate Blind Al's relationship with Ultimate Deadpool to mirror 616 Blind Al's and 616 Deadpool's, but I wanted it to be under different circumstances. And actually, I really- really like her too... hot blind chicks are cooler than normal hot chicks, lol.

Man, I hope someone at Marvel sees my ideas... especially Blind Al. I don't care who takes credit for my ideas either.

good luck dude your ideas are really good!

Rock on blind Al rock on!

Ok, how about...

Copycat:

Vanessa Carlysle is Blind Al's friend. She works at a strip club and has come to hate men from working with so many pigs, but develops a crush on her friend's (Blind Al) older brother (Deadpool).

She's spiteful, obsessive, and manipulative, and somewhat street savvy... but has her good streaks. She's someone who's desperate to be in the "in" crowd and is considered by others as a poser, hence she gained the nickname "Copycat."

She becomes more of a criminal and roughian after meeting Deadpool, since she sees Deadpool as a "tough bad boy" and wants to impress him... which she doesn't and he has to get her out of trouble, but she keeps trying to find ways to get his attention.

Deadpool's story in the book would partially consist of him sorting out his feelings of mutants and himself. One of the reasons he hates mutants is because he feels bad that he can heal but his sister can't, and there's no way he can use his power to help her see. He feels it's as unfair as Blind Al does.

He'll come to have deep (but secret) feelings for Copycat, but he'll have even more of an internal struggle once he finds out she's a mutant and things get rocky. Things settle down, but he has a hard time seeing Copycat the same. And of course, Deadpool will get really confused and look deep in himself once he finds out Theresa is a mutant.

Post Edited:2007-05-13 20:03:29

Reply to my brilliance!

Deadpool:

His story would partially consist of him sorting out his feelings of mutants and himself. One of the reasons he hates mutants is because he feels bad that he can heal but his sister can't, and there's no way he can use his power to help her see. He feels it's as unfair as Blind Al does.

Another aspect of him is that during the Wakandan war, he kept his mutant healing ability secret from his mutant-hating team. He would quickly earn their respect and raise higher in the ranks, but they eventually discovered that he's a mutant. But by this time they had so much adoration for their highly skilled and highly capable leader that their mutant-hating views altered, but didn't waver. To them, they believed that Deadpool earned his powers... and that other mutants should too. See... they all shared a bond after everything they were through, and they nor Deadpool could abandon each other. Due to this bond, coupled with the hate he felt for himself, slowly adapted their new views. He started to believe that's why he had powers, and the world isn't as unfair as he thought. He even went through with the cybernetic augmentation with them.

He'll come to have secret feelings for Copycat, partially because he understands her need to belong. But he'll have an internal struggle once he finds out she's a mutant; things get rocky for a while but they settle down as his own views start to change. And of course, Deadpool will really look deep in himself once he finds out Theresa is a mutant.

I liked the stuff you made at the first post tought I have always disliked copycat.

Wow, these are great.  I like how you're making Deadpool actually funny.

I would love to see more U Deadpool in comics.  I'll post later to tell some of my ideas.

How about U Deadpool's origin?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he is a writer and just wont tell us >__<

"I think he is a writer and just wont tell us >__<"

It would be cool if the actual reason of why deadpool dislikes mutants so much is the following:

Thanks for the praise guys.

After a year and 3 months, it looks like my idea of including Apocalypse in the mix won't work. However, I believe the rest still can.

Cool.

About his origin, his Dad (since he was mean to him in 616 U) he could be very angry and treat him like a dog because he found out he was a mutant.  When Wade was young he could ave been taught to hate mutants only to find out that he is one. That way he can hate himself (like the 616 U) and will give him some powers and possibly a different twist on his Weapon X past.

in this universe deadpool was born being a mutant? or he became one due to the weapon x prgram?

Its complicated.  From what we know he just volunteered to be upgraded (he might have already had some powers or enhancements) by what looked like A.I.M. agents.  He was also revealed to have been a sergeant in the "Wakanda Wars" (whatever that is). 

Since so little is known about him, DEADPOOL has made an intriguing tale.

"Its complicated.  From what we know he just volunteered to be upgraded (he might have already had some powers or enhancements) by what looked like A.I.M. agents.  He was also revealed to have been a sergeant in the "Wakanda Wars" (whatever that is). 

Since so little is known about him, DEADPOOL has made an intriguing tale."

I lke wath you said, hes mother dying, hes sister becoming blind and hes father a stritct abusive puppet of a mutant superior.

"I tought that the Blind Al of here was a child like of 12 years while wade has like 22 or sumething."

"Mr. Wilson said:

"Its complicated.  From what we know he just volunteered to be upgraded (he might have already had some powers or enhancements) by what looked like A.I.M. agents.  He was also revealed to have been a sergeant in the "Wakanda Wars" (whatever that is). 

Since so little is known about him, DEADPOOL has made an intriguing tale."

To me, the "Wakandan wars" sounds like America and Wakanda (Black Panther's country) fought in the 90's. However, with or against each other is unknown.

Thank you. I thought being a self-hating mutant that was trying to find his place in the world and dealing with his feelings about mutants would add the same inner-demon complexity that 616 Deadpool has, but at the same time be a new twist like the Ultimate universe is supposed to be. But I wanted there to be real, emotional reasons for his hatred; that being his guilt over his sister's condition and his mother's death while he's basically invincible, and also his later struggle within the U.S. Marines.
And rereading this thread, I really kinda jumbled everything up. I should had gave detail about my concepts for Ultimate Deadpool before I talked about his supporting cast. I believe that I made a separate topic just about Ultimate Deadpool, but I should had started with that here so I didn't confuse people.

And that's a good idea about his father being a mutant hater."

He should had joined the war when he was 18, just for the sake of impressing hes dad and showing him that he was very capable.

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Thank you very much, Darkchild.

Bendis dropped the ball on Deadpool's humor... Spidey made me laugh more than Deadpool did, that wasn't right. You could also say that Deadpool was putting on a show for the cameras. When the cameras weren't on him, he seemed more respectable... and in my opinion, a little withdrawn.

Oh, and I should point out that it's my firm belief that Ultimate Deadpool is a mutant with the same indomitable regenerative abilities as 616 Deadpool.

But you must be asking "why would a mutant hunt mutants?" Well Ultimate Deadpool and the gang said it themselves, they don't like that any snot-nosed punk can have powers without earning them first.

Then you must be asking "Why would mutant-haters follow a mutant?" Well that can be answered pretty easily. Deadpool was a soldier, like them. They fought together in many battles and he climbed the ranks to being their commanding officer. To them, and himself, he earned his powers. And the next time he runs into Spider-Man or the X-Men, he'll probably think they earned their powers too.

You guys are now probably asking "if Ultimate Deadpool has that healing factor, how did he become a cyborg?" Well his healing factor is like a stream. If you try to cut the water, it just overlaps itself. But if you put a rock in the stream, the water will have to flow around it until the rock is removed.

The cybernetic implants is that rock. And after Shadowcat made that "rock" explode, the stream was able to correct it's flow. In other words, I think Deadpool will be very human-looking the next time we see him.

Post Edited:2007-04-04 22:03:03

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"He should had joined the war when he was 18, just for the sake of impressing hes dad and showing him that he was very capable.

And like M. wilson said, you have made a great job to give more flavour to this character.

Oh btw ultimate t-ray could had been a biologist that was making a documental with hes wife about the life of, dont know panthers or something in wakanda and DP killed her wife accidentall.

And taking T-ray for dead he was left in the dirty wet mud of a storm.

Then a group of natives picked him up and returned hes life thanks to a vodoo ritual, then T-ray decided to take vengance and due to he speaked the native language he started to learn all kinds of african magicks etc...

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Oh btw ultimate t-ray could had been a biologist that was making a documental with hes wife about the life of, dont know panthers or something in wakanda and DP killed her wife accidentall.

And taking T-ray for dead he was left in the dirty wet mud of a storm.

Then a group of natives picked him up and returned hes life thanks to a vodoo ritual, then T-ray decided to take vengance and due to he speaked the native language he started to learn all kinds of african magicks etc..."

"Suigetsu said:

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Oh btw ultimate t-ray could had been a biologist that was making a documental with hes wife about the life of, dont know panthers or something in wakanda and DP killed her wife accidentall.

And taking T-ray for dead he was left in the dirty wet mud of a storm.

Then a group of natives picked him up and returned hes life thanks to a vodoo ritual, then T-ray decided to take vengance and due to he speaked the native language he started to learn all kinds of african magicks etc..."

That's a pretty good idea, nice job.

Hmm, maybe they could had been journalists doing a documentary about how the war is affecting the populace of Wakanda... one of those heart to heart stories. During this, Mercedes could had gotten killed in a military strike that Deadpool was leading in the Wakandan jungles, thus being Deadpool's fault, although unintentionally."

Wow that came together well.  i'm going to brainstorm ideas for Ultimate Typhoid Mary.  Maybe more than one villain could come from the Wakanda War like in Ultimate Spider-Man where a lot of villains come out of the explosion in Oscorp.

"DEADPOOL said:

"Suigetsu said:

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Oh btw ultimate t-ray could had been a biologist that was making a documental with hes wife about the life of, dont know panthers or something in wakanda and DP killed her wife accidentall.

And taking T-ray for dead he was left in the dirty wet mud of a storm.

Then a group of natives picked him up and returned hes life thanks to a vodoo ritual, then T-ray decided to take vengance and due to he speaked the native language he started to learn all kinds of african magicks etc..."

That's a pretty good idea, nice job.

Hmm, maybe they could had been journalists doing a documentary about how the war is affecting the populace of Wakanda... one of those heart to heart stories. During this, Mercedes could had gotten killed in a military strike that Deadpool was leading in the Wakandan jungles, thus being Deadpool's fault, although unintentionally."

hehehe thx , and yeah! the journalist heart to heart thingy its definitely a must! and thus will make the reader kind of sympathize with T-ray in this situation.
BTW if you make T-rays real name to be Edmund and it will be funnie since the main character from the book of Monte Cristo was called like that and hes lost love was Mercedes.

Myabe they could had been doctors that where in one of those expeditions to aid the people etc...

Now! lets go for Typhoid Mary xD!"

"Wow that came together well.  i'm going to brainstorm ideas for Ultimate Typhoid Mary.  Maybe more than one villain could come from the Wakanda War like in Ultimate Spider-Man where a lot of villains come out of the explosion in Oscorp."

You know I was about to suggest the same thing with typhoid mary , about her being mercedes tought the problem is that she is not called mercedes.

I'll work on an idea to help her have that name.  It could be that T-Ray doesn't want her to go by her old name because he doesn't have his name, that way they could be a better couple.

"I'll work on an idea to help her have that name.  It could be that T-Ray doesn't want her to go by her old name because he doesn't have his name, that way they could be a better couple"

"Mr. Wilson said:

"I'll work on an idea to help her have that name.  It could be that T-Ray doesn't want her to go by her old name because he doesn't have his name, that way they could be a better couple"

What if T-Ray forgets his name and the Wakandan magic men give him a Wakandan name, beginning with "T" and ending with "Rhei," but Deadpool can't remember so he keeps calling him "T-Ray"? Thelokochirhei (teh-lock-o-chee-ray) maybe? I'm not really sure what would "sound" Wakandan.

As for Typhoid Mary... hmm, what if that's the name of a malicious spirit inside of her? Typhoid Mary, Mercedes, and ???.

I'm trying to envision Ajax and Slayback. What if they were both members of the Reavers (pre Ultimate Spider-Man appearance).
Slayback was the first to undergo the automation and went on a psychotic rampage, even trying to kill his teammates. They defeated him and thought him dead, but he appears later for revenge.
Then for Ajax. During the Wakandan war, Ajax, unlike the others, still hated Deadpool for being a mutant and felt that he made them look bad and only got his rank because of his powers... and tried to find a way to kill Deadpool. But Deadpool beat him and had him dishonorably discharged and sent to prison for attempted murder against a commanding officer. He later undergoes the same automation as the other Reavers and attacks Deadpool, blaming him for everything.

Thoughts and opinions?

I'll have to try to think of Black Swan next."

Hmm... Agent-X...

It'll be interesting to read your idea, but I think I have one too:
There's a Japanese hitman, a crack-shot. I'll skip how, but him and his men are able to capture Deadpool and, through a gamble, he has both of their heads are cut off and his men place his on Deadpool's body. As Deadpool's body heals, it attaches the two together and revives Agent-X. They leave Deadpool's head which eventually regrows his body and they duke it out.
Limitation: Agent-X isn't immortal, if his head is severed from the body then he will die. Deadpool's healing factor also doesn't extend too well to Agent-X's head, it will heal a broken nose or a black eye faster than normal, but isn't nearly as efficient as the body. As such he retains his scars and visual sensitivity to light.

This would give Deadpool an idea about how to cure Blind Al and he proposes the concept to her, but she quickly refuses; "If I had to look at your body in the mirror then I'd be blind and a dude!"

hmmm, dont know....

"hmmm, dont know....

To me agent x has always been a deadpool rip off.

Tought I liked the summo version from cable and deadpool.

and black swan looks like a cheap rip of black tom cassidy aswell, tought maybe he could be kingpin's nephew wich lives in colombia and he is incharge of the ilegal traffic in those areas.

In that way he acts as an arm to hes uncle.

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Marvel had a dispute with ho?

Alright since you already have a concept for Agent X, I made one for Ultimate Taskmaster.  I thought he could serve as one of Deadpool's major villains.  Here it goes...

Taskmaster: Supposedly Deadpools best friend through their years of training and battle together.  He refused to undergo treatment to enhance his body like the rest of the Reavers because he said it would be better for him to do it the hard way. During the Wakanda Wars he supposedly was killed in battle but he secretly faked his own death for reasons unknown.  He waited in the jungle so he could have a chance to kill Deadpool because he was really a mutant all along and Deadpool had to pay for his misdeeds against all mutants. He pretended to be Deadpools friend through all those years so he could study all of Deadpools moves because his mutant power was a photoreflexive one. Taskmaster finally got an oppurtunity to strike but Deadpool wasn't surprised because he say Taskmaster fake his death on the field.  Deadpool quickly learned his powers and used ancient moves to beat Taskmaster to a pulp.  Even though Taskmaster lost the fight it had an emotional toll on Deadpool because he thought he had a friend for once but found that he was still alone in the world. T-Ray then came along Taskmasters body and resurrected him with the ceremonial Death mask.  Now fully healed, he will serve anyone who wants Deadpool dead and is called their Taskmaster!

Notice how I capitalized Death.  This could lead into new territory.

Also the Death mask is his skull mask like in 616.  I hope you like this.

"Marvel had a dispute with ho?

was it fabian or joe kelly?"

he designed deadpool isnt?

"Alright since you already have a concept for Agent X, I made one for Ultimate Taskmaster.  I thought he could serve as one of Deadpool's major villains.  Here it goes...

Taskmaster: Supposedly Deadpools best friend through their years of training and battle together.  He refused to undergo treatment to enhance his body like the rest of the Reavers because he said it would be better for him to do it the hard way. During the Wakanda Wars he supposedly was killed in battle but he secretly faked his own death for reasons unknown.  He waited in the jungle so he could have a chance to kill Deadpool because he was really a mutant all along and Deadpool had to pay for his misdeeds against all mutants. He pretended to be Deadpools friend through all those years so he could study all of Deadpools moves because his mutant power was a photoreflexive one. Taskmaster finally got an oppurtunity to strike but Deadpool wasn't surprised because he say Taskmaster fake his death on the field.  Deadpool quickly learned his powers and used ancient moves to beat Taskmaster to a pulp.  Even though Taskmaster lost the fight it had an emotional toll on Deadpool because he thought he had a friend for once but found that he was still alone in the world. T-Ray then came along Taskmasters body and resurrected him with the ceremonial Death mask.  Now fully healed, he will serve anyone who wants Deadpool dead and is called their Taskmaster!

Notice how I capitalized Death.  This could lead into new territory.

Also the Death mask is his skull mask like in 616.  I hope you like this."

"he designed deadpool isnt?

why did they had a problem with him? wath did he do?"

"Alright since you already have a concept for Agent X, I made one for Ultimate Taskmaster.  I thought he could serve as one of Deadpool's major villains.  Here it goes...

Taskmaster: Supposedly Deadpools best friend through their years of training and battle together.  He refused to undergo treatment to enhance his body like the rest of the Reavers because he said it would be better for him to do it the hard way. During the Wakanda Wars he supposedly was killed in battle but he secretly faked his own death for reasons unknown.  He waited in the jungle so he could have a chance to kill Deadpool because he was really a mutant all along and Deadpool had to pay for his misdeeds against all mutants. He pretended to be Deadpools friend through all those years so he could study all of Deadpools moves because his mutant power was a photoreflexive one. Taskmaster finally got an oppurtunity to strike but Deadpool wasn't surprised because he say Taskmaster fake his death on the field.  Deadpool quickly learned his powers and used ancient moves to beat Taskmaster to a pulp.  Even though Taskmaster lost the fight it had an emotional toll on Deadpool because he thought he had a friend for once but found that he was still alone in the world. T-Ray then came along Taskmasters body and resurrected him with the ceremonial Death mask.  Now fully healed, he will serve anyone who wants Deadpool dead and is called their Taskmaster!

Notice how I capitalized Death.  This could lead into new territory.

Also the Death mask is his skull mask like in 616.  I hope you like this."

"he designed deadpool isnt?

why did they had a problem with him? wath did he do?"

Man thats pretty much some of the stuff we need hehehe.

Yes.  I agree with what you both said, and he should be the first opponent.

i like your rendition as well DEADPOOL.

Dang guys, I was delirious or something last night. I kept waking up every half hour or so thinking I was trying to come up with Ultimate L, L & L.

same thng happen to me, I wake up and loads of ideas start runing trough my head.
I should have a recorder or something.

"Dang guys, I was delirious or something last night. I kept waking up every half hour or so thinking I was trying to come up with Ultimate L, L & L."

Heheh, I didn't have any ideas, I just fell back to sleep. It's just that for some reason I kept waking up thinking that I was trying to think of Ultimate L, L & L.