"Spid3r-Man said:Ryan Reynolds is only in the film for 10 minutes? Then at the end of the film you have a DIFFERENT actor playing the "same" character after being turned into a Mimic? Then why even hired Ryan Reynolds and why put Deadpool's name on it?"Nevermind, it seems like they are indeed the same person.Wow... this blows."
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/03/the_deadpool_debacle_ended_probably.php#"
Deadpool
Character » Deadpool appears in 3332 issues.
Wade Wilson is a former test subject of the Weapon X program, where he received his regenerative healing factor through the scientific experiments conducted upon him. A prominent enemy, ally and later, member of X-Force. He's famous for breaking the Fourth Wall.
Deadpool in Wolverine movie
So, I just watched a pre-post-production cut of the movie (so, does that make it a "production cut"?) here. In it, Ryan Reynolds plays Wade Wilson at the beginning of the movie, and the same character (played by Scott Adkins) appears at the end as Weapon XI, described by Stryker as "a pool of all the mutant powers... a dead pool...", which, aside from being a really dumb line, is the only reference to the character's name in the comics.
As I recall, there are only three lines in the entire movie that even allude to this being the same character: the one above, and two while Logan was fighting him ("Wade? Is that you?" and "Looks like Stryker finally found a way to shut you up"). If Fox would just take out those three lines, then Weapon XI would be a completely seperate character from Reynolds's Wade Wilson, which might actually be really, really cool.
ok does it really matter? the movie is not DEADPOOL its wolverine..................Does deadpool matter that much? hes not even a marvel top 10 Hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know hes got "loyal" fans and I can understand your pain trust me (the new GI JOE is gonna SUX they will ruin my childhood) but lets just look at it this way its a wolverine movie not a deadpool movie
"ok does it really matter? the movie is not DEADPOOL its wolverine..................Does deadpool matter that much? hes not even a marvel top 10 Hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know hes got "loyal" fans and I can understand your pain trust me (the new GI JOE is gonna SUX they will ruin my childhood) but lets just look at it this way its a wolverine movie not a deadpool movie "Ok, true... OMG! THEY RUINED WOLVERINE'S MOVIE!!!!!!!! lol.
I personally don't see what the fuss is. In no real order:
1. He's in the movie, he makes jokes and kicks ass.
2. The movie is spiking Deadpool's popularity, and he'll most likely get his own movie after this.
3. They shot more scenes with Deadpool, the version that was leaked is unfinished.
4. He's probably going to lose all of the powers except healing at the end of the movie... hopefully he keeps the teleporting though.
5. Deadpool gets a big power-up that we can use in vs. topics, lol.
Ok, true... OMG! THEY RUINED WOLVERINE'S MOVIE!!!!!!!! lol.I personally don't see what the fuss is. In no real order:1. He's in the movie, he makes jokes and kicks ass.2. The movie is spiking Deadpool's popularity, and he'll most likely get his own movie after this.3. They shot more scenes with Deadpool, the version that was leaked is unfinished.4. He's probably going to lose all of the powers except healing at the end of the movie... hopefully he keeps the teleporting though.5. Deadpool gets a big power-up that we can use in vs. topics, lol."1. The part with Ryan as pre-scarred Wade does seem like it may have potential
"Well if he was at least 10 years younger I'd say Jim Carey. I mean he can totally play an insane person. But I guess Ryan Renolds is okay."
save jim carrey for carnage if they ever use him
"DEADPOOL said:At least in the leaked version of the movie:Ok, true... OMG! THEY RUINED WOLVERINE'S MOVIE!!!!!!!! lol.I personally don't see what the fuss is. In no real order:1. He's in the movie, he makes jokes and kicks ass.2. The movie is spiking Deadpool's popularity, and he'll most likely get his own movie after this.3. They shot more scenes with Deadpool, the version that was leaked is unfinished.4. He's probably going to lose all of the powers except healing at the end of the movie... hopefully he keeps the teleporting though.5. Deadpool gets a big power-up that we can use in vs. topics, lol."1. The part with Ryan as pre-scarred Wade does seem like it may have potential2. His popularity with people who just watch the movies and pretend to be comic geeks3. True, crossing my fingers4. See 35. Fanboy vs fanboy threads really don't need anything more added to them lol"
1. He only makes jokes, or has any personality at all, in the beginning as Wade Wilson. Ryan Reynolds does a top-notch job. At the end, as Deadpool / Weapon XI, he has no personality, and responds to computer programs such as ">:decapitate" and ">:walk forward".
2. He can't get his own movie unless it's a prequel, Wolverine decapitates him at the end. No real worming around that.
3. Here's hoping!
4. He doesn't lose any of the powers, and he doesn't heal in the first place.
5. Really, he was more powerful in the comics. This version is just stupid.
"no he does not have laser vision thats some other dude who is not cyclops also deady is not scarred or wearing a mask but he still has duel blades."
Did you just call Pool.... "Deady...?" You have lost posting privlages.
"Abnormally Warm Guy said:How so? The eyes? I can't fix em. It annoys me too. But it does looks better with the equipment on."Deadpool's review of the film:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPQFdMx-m2I"That costume of yours is annoying."
I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining.
"http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."
I get where you're coming from and most of the time I'd agree with you (look at V for Vendetta or the Spider-man Movies) but in the case of Deadpool I'd say they went to far. The character doesn't feel like Deadpool any more. He lacks the complications and craziness. And Barrackapool is lame.
"inferiorego said:You do realize that they went back and did reshoots to add more of him in because people were complaining, right? Now there is more Deadpool and no one is happy"http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."I get where you're coming from and most of the time I'd agree with you (look at V for Vendetta or the Spider-man Movies) but in the case of Deadpool I'd say they went to far. The character doesn't feel like Deadpool any more. He lacks the complications and craziness. And Barrackapool is lame."
"http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."
You're wrong about complaining not changing anything, if enough people complain in the right places, it gets seen and possibly made better for the next time. And what they did to Deadpool wasn't trivial, they did A LOT incorrectly.
inferiorego said:
"Abnormally Warm Guy said:"inferiorego said:You do realize that they went back and did reshoots to add more of him in because people were complaining, right? Now there is more Deadpool and no one is happy""http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."I get where you're coming from and most of the time I'd agree with you (look at V for Vendetta or the Spider-man Movies) but in the case of Deadpool I'd say they went to far. The character doesn't feel like Deadpool any more. He lacks the complications and craziness. And Barrackapool is lame."
That's a rumor.
"inferiorego said:Re shoots weren't a rumor, it happened."http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."
You're wrong about complaining not changing anything, if enough people complain in the right places, it gets seen and possibly made better for the next time. And what they did to Deadpool wasn't trivial, they did A LOT incorrectly.
inferiorego said:"Abnormally Warm Guy said:That's a rumor.""inferiorego said:You do realize that they went back and did reshoots to add more of him in because people were complaining, right? Now there is more Deadpool and no one is happy""http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."I get where you're coming from and most of the time I'd agree with you (look at V for Vendetta or the Spider-man Movies) but in the case of Deadpool I'd say they went to far. The character doesn't feel like Deadpool any more. He lacks the complications and craziness. And Barrackapool is lame."
I can sit and nit-pick all day about things they changed from the comic to film, but there are much better ways to spend one's time. It's a movie, one which most of you haven't seen yet. Why not wait for it to come out, sit back, and try to enjoy it.
The problem here is that fanboys will NEVER be happy. I am a Deadpool fan, and there was a lot changed, and guess what? He's a minor character with a handful of lines. Why not complain about the extra in scene 45 while you're at it, it's the same thing.
I'm just saying why label a character as deadpool if it's nothing like the source material. I'd of been happy with the character if they didn't market it as Deadpool. It's not Deadpool. Yea I'm a fan boy. I'm the first to admit it and I'm not against changing some of the source material but when you change everything that makes the character interesting you lose me. The character's essence still has to be there.
That's why I liked Venom
That's why I liked all of Marvel Studio's movies.
That's why I don't like Fox's Deadpool.
Yes he was a minor character. I'd rather them made him a minor character or a reference at least that was at least not a spit in the face of the fans.
I Abnormally Warm Guy said:
"I'm just saying why label a character as deadpool if it's nothing like the source material. I'd of been happy with the character if they didn't market it as Deadpool. It's not Deadpool. Yea I'm a fan boy. I'm the first to admit it and I'm not against changing some of the source material but when you change everything that makes the character interesting you lose me. The character's essence still has to be there.That's why I liked VenomThat's why I liked all of Marvel Studio's movies.That's why I don't like Fox's Deadpool.Yes he was a minor character. I'd rather them made him a minor character or a reference at least that was at least not a spit in the face of the fans."I agree. When Ryan Reynolds was on screen as Deadpool it was good, but once they did the tests on him it was horrible. Since when did Deadpool have lazer eyes? or swords stuck in his arms?or have his mouth sealed closed?
I feel like they totally butchered the character.
All that said, it was still a good movie.
"I'm just saying why label a character as deadpool if it's nothing like the source material. I'd of been happy with the character if they didn't market it as Deadpool. It's not Deadpool. Yea I'm a fan boy. I'm the first to admit it and I'm not against changing some of the source material but when you change everything that makes the character interesting you lose me. The character's essence still has to be there.That's why I liked VenomThat's why I liked all of Marvel Studio's movies.That's why I don't like Fox's Deadpool.Yes he was a minor character. I'd rather them made him a minor character or a reference at least that was at least not a spit in the face of the fans."Why isn't anyone complaining about Wolverine then? They screwed him up from comic to film pretty well.
And Fox isn't spitting in the face of the fans (although I wish they would sometimes), the fans wanted Deadpool in a film and they put them in. They didn't put him thinking, "yeah, lets stick it to those fans... TAKE THAT! MWAHAHAHA!"
Sadly, trying to talk to a deadpool fan is like trying fit a square peg in a round hole.
"http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/inferiorego/direct-translation-versus-adaptation/87-41363/I wrote this for the people who can't stop complaining."
take this from someone who LOVES adaptions(read my nolan-verse man-bat forum) if your gunna do a half a$$ job adapting
.........DONT DO IT AT ALL....its better to leave the fanboys with no deadpool then a bad one.
The equivalence of how much they changed about Deadpool would be giving Wolverine latent psychic abilities. I'm as big a 'pool fan as they come, and I'm praying that the only WW/DP involvement in that movie doesn't include that abomination Weapon XI. Including the character to appease fanbase is one thing, but including something that bears nothing in resemblance... not so much.
Besides, Weapon XI is kinda the climax fight of the movie. Either they were planning on including the character as a 'pool variant when the movie was in the initial stages or they decided to change the character in re-shoot it as such. It's not like they decided last second to throw in Weapon XI.
Ive seen the workprint like 3 times, ryan would have been a great deadpool, IF THE MOVIE DIDNT KILL HIM OFF, OR NOT GIVE THE MERC WITH A MOUTH NO MOUTH!!!!!
Sooooo, sorry i spoiled it, if i did : /
"Ive seen the workprint like 3 times, ryan would have been a great deadpool, IF THE MOVIE DIDNT KILL HIM OFF, OR NOT GIVE THE MERC WITH A MOUTH NO MOUTH!!!!!Sooooo, sorry i spoiled it, if i did : /"Can't kill Deadpool, and I'm sure they sewed his mouth shut so he wouldn't steal the spot-light from Wolverine.
"SUNMAN said:henceforth you just will have to wait till the movie comes out too see how badly they messed up Deadpool if my friends are right about this movie it is mediocre at best, with a lot of special affects and a lot of stuff is different from the comics"I heard deadpool had laser vision"Henceforth you are known as Mr. Pointless Poster."
I just came back from watching the movie, I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet. Wolverine was well done, Sabertooth finally got some justice on screen, Gambit was a bit of a wimp (which he isn't) and the totally f****d up Wade later in the movie. I am outraged with what they done to Deadpool and I better stop here before I turn this thread X rated :(
Paradox4000 said:
"mega mage said:"no he does not have laser vision thats some other dude who is not cyclops also deady is not scarred or wearing a mask but he still has duel blades."Did you just call Pool.... "Deady...?" You have lost posting privlages."
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