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Does this List Include Vertigo?

Topic started by aztek the lost on Sept. 15, 2008. Last post by aztek the lost 3 months, 3 weeks ago.
Post by aztek the lost (13,553 posts) See mini bio
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Because the link itself goes to the DC Universe page where it says the relationship to Vertigo is unclear...

Because the link itself goes to the DC Universe page where it says the relationship to Vertigo is unclear...

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The Endless deserve to be in Tier 2, IMO. They're above Lucifer Morningstar.

Tier 3, at the least.

The Endless deserve to be in Tier 2, IMO. They're above Lucifer Morningstar.

Tier 3, at the least.

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Elaine should be Tier 1

and I have no idea why Death is above the other Endless

Elaine should be Tier 1

and I have no idea why Death is above the other Endless

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Gloom said:

"The Endless deserve to be in Tier 2, IMO. They're above Lucifer Morningstar.

Tier 3, at the least."
and actually, if we want to get technical, in Lucifer #25 I believe it is, Lucifer tells Death after he dies, "What are you doing here? You have no power over me." and she responds, "Never said I did." So IMO that insinuates she is weaker than him.

Gloom said:
"The Endless deserve to be in Tier 2, IMO. They're above Lucifer Morningstar.

Tier 3, at the least."
and actually, if we want to get technical, in Lucifer #25 I believe it is, Lucifer tells Death after he dies, "What are you doing here? You have no power over me." and she responds, "Never said I did." So IMO that insinuates she is weaker than him.

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DC also owns Wildstorm......

Would they count?

DC also owns Wildstorm......

Would they count?

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TheDrifter said:

"DC also owns Wildstorm......

Would they count?"
idk...I'm sort of waiting on Buckshot's answer...but I think its just DC and Vertigo cause Wildstorm is a separate universe, Vertigo sort of is, sort of isn't

TheDrifter said:
"DC also owns Wildstorm......

Would they count?"
idk...I'm sort of waiting on Buckshot's answer...but I think its just DC and Vertigo cause Wildstorm is a separate universe, Vertigo sort of is, sort of isn't

Post by Gloom (2,686 posts) See mini bio
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Death is under the Presence only, I think. She's so high up in the power rankings that she's the only Endless who "is bound by no rules" and will be the last entity "alive" when the universe itself dies. And Lucifer has no power over the Endless, either. =/ I mean, they are infinite, and stuff... I still think they should be higher than or at least equal to Lucifer.

Death is under the Presence only, I think. She's so high up in the power rankings that she's the only Endless who "is bound by no rules" and will be the last entity "alive" when the universe itself dies. And Lucifer has no power over the Endless, either. =/ I mean, they are infinite, and stuff... I still think they should be higher than or at least equal to Lucifer.

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aztek the lost said:

"TheDrifter said:
"DC also owns Wildstorm......

Would they count?"
idk...I'm sort of waiting on Buckshot's answer...but I think its just DC and Vertigo cause Wildstorm is a separate universe, Vertigo sort of is, sort of isn't"
Etrigan has appeared in Sandman

So....I dunno

aztek the lost said:
"TheDrifter said:
"DC also owns Wildstorm......

Would they count?"
idk...I'm sort of waiting on Buckshot's answer...but I think its just DC and Vertigo cause Wildstorm is a separate universe, Vertigo sort of is, sort of isn't"
Etrigan has appeared in Sandman

So....I dunno

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Gloom said:

"Death is under the Presence only, I think. She's so high up in the power rankings that she's the only Endless who "is bound by no rules" and will be the last entity "alive" when the universe itself dies. And Lucifer has no power over the Endless, either. =/ I mean, they are infinite, and stuff... I still think they should be higher than or at least equal to Lucifer."
lol, Michael is said to be under the Presence only...and Lucifer under Michael...and Elaine is the Presence...its all too confusing so I'm waiting for Buckshot :P

(but I have to go eat supper now, cya)

Gloom said:
"Death is under the Presence only, I think. She's so high up in the power rankings that she's the only Endless who "is bound by no rules" and will be the last entity "alive" when the universe itself dies. And Lucifer has no power over the Endless, either. =/ I mean, they are infinite, and stuff... I still think they should be higher than or at least equal to Lucifer."
lol, Michael is said to be under the Presence only...and Lucifer under Michael...and Elaine is the Presence...its all too confusing so I'm waiting for Buckshot :P

(but I have to go eat supper now, cya)

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TheDrifter said:

"Etrigan has appeared in Sandman

So....I dunno"
Actually a lot of DC heroes have appeared in Vertigo. Martian Manhunter, Lyta Hall, John Constantine, etc, they've appeared in the Sandman so Vertigo is probably included.

@Aztek: I don't know enough about Michael or Elaine or whatever, but I'm pretty sure the Endless are untouchable by Gods and pretty much anyone... I don't have solid facts, though, so maybe I'll wait (with you) for someone who does...

TheDrifter said:
"Etrigan has appeared in Sandman

So....I dunno"
Actually a lot of DC heroes have appeared in Vertigo. Martian Manhunter, Lyta Hall, John Constantine, etc, they've appeared in the Sandman so Vertigo is probably included.

@Aztek: I don't know enough about Michael or Elaine or whatever, but I'm pretty sure the Endless are untouchable by Gods and pretty much anyone... I don't have solid facts, though, so maybe I'll wait (with you) for someone who does...

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btw, I think I figured out the answer to my own title...it would be no...a series like Lucifer or Sandman would be on this list cause it uses DC characters while Preacher would not cause it is its own universe, correct?

btw, I think I figured out the answer to my own title...it would be no...a series like Lucifer or Sandman would be on this list cause it uses DC characters while Preacher would not cause it is its own universe, correct?

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The thing about Vertigo series is they arnt in a universe at all...well kinda. Their such an offshoot of the original universe its not gonna happen,

Sure Vert characters have leaped over an done a crossover but nothing grand...usually.

The thing about Vertigo series is they arnt in a universe at all...well kinda. Their such an offshoot of the original universe its not gonna happen,

Sure Vert characters have leaped over an done a crossover but nothing grand...usually.

Post by aztek the lost (13,553 posts) See mini bio
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Well, seeing as Buckshot no longer cares about this list and all, I'll just decide myself that it includes DC and all Vertigo titles that include characters seen in DC (like Sandman/Lucifer or Hellblazer or Swamp Thing)

Well, seeing as Buckshot no longer cares about this list and all, I'll just decide myself that it includes DC and all Vertigo titles that include characters seen in DC (like Sandman/Lucifer or Hellblazer or Swamp Thing)