Who's the most powerful?

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#1 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Who are the 20 most powerful people in DC universe... including cosmic beings/gods-Like Spectre, Ion, or Parallax?

#2 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

do characters that don't exist anymore count?

like Parallax (Hal Jordan)?

#3 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

what about nightwing??? he's gotta be in the top twenty!!!

#4 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"what about nightwing??? he's gotta be in the top twenty!!!"

now you made me remember N8wing lol

#5 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"do characters that don't exist anymore count? like Parallax (Hal Jordan)?"

Ya.

#6 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu says:

"Nighthunter says:
"do characters that don't exist anymore count? like Parallax (Hal Jordan)?"

Ya."

and the ones we know are stronger but that we haven't seen?

Like God, he is spectre boss so he should be stronger but we haven't seen him. Does he count?

#7 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya.

#8 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

you sure ask a lot of questions

#9 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

two last questions:

1-Do beings of another universe count?

2-Just in terms of power? Or if that guy would be able to defeat another?

EX: Superman is more powerful than Blue Beetle. But Blue Beetle can defeat him.

#10 Posted by Gloom (3653 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't forget the seven Endless, people!

#11 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"you sure ask a lot of questions"

is to make a more accurate list

#12 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Any character dead or alive, characters that we havent seen but are apparently more powerful-like God, and cosmic beings. Hmmm and I guess people who are stronger in terms of strength and magic-not having to use substances like kryptonite (Because Batman could beat Superman with that but he's not even close to one of the most powerful)

#13 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Apparition says:
"you sure ask a lot of questions"
is to make a more accurate list"

ok ok, now lets see your list!

#14 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok let's see maybe it's like this:

God

Parallax (Hal Jordan)

Original Ion (Kyle Rayner)

Anti-Monitor

Spectre (Hal Jordan)

Normal Spectre

Shazam (Captain Marvel)

Shazam (Original)

Ion (Kyle Rayner)

The members of the fifth dimension

Firestorm

Superman Prime

Ion (Sodam Yat)

Green Lantern and Sinestro Corp members

Doomsday

Superman (Kingdome Come)

Superman

Black Adam

Captain Marvel

Darkside

#15 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?

#16 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu says:

"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"

I think parallax is more powerful than ion

and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre

#17 Posted by Garison (2645 posts) - - Show Bio

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#18 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"

Cool, I didnt know this. Thanks for the list.

#19 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Garison says:

"ME"

Nighthunter starts beating the crap out of Garison

#20 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu says:

"Nighthunter says:
"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"

Cool, I didnt know this. Thanks for the list."

Np, still it may not be totally accurate

there are guys like parallax or ion that are so powerful that the most powerful of them is dificult to determine

#21 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

why's darkside so far down?

#22 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Because all the other characters would beat him.

#23 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"why's darkside so far down?"

because DC has so much powerhouses

I'm not sure who is stronger between him and Captain Marvel tough

#24 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

wow he used to be much more powerful than that. he was more powerful than precrises superman, back then.

what about phantom stranger, orion, wonder woman, martian manhunter, zatanna, supergirl, powergirl, mon el, and dr fate? they might make it on your list somewhere

#25 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

sure but if black adam and captain marvel are there, i think orion is about as powerful as they are. and martian manhunter, supergirl, powergirl and wonder woman are too.

#26 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"wow he used to be much more powerful than that. he was more powerful than precrises superman, back then.what about phantom stranger, orion, wonder woman, martian manhunter, zatanna, supergirl, powergirl, mon el, and dr fate? they might make it on your list somewhere"

maybe Mon-EL and DR Fate

the problem is that I used the cosmic beings and varous incarnations of them

#27 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"sure but if black adam and captain marvel are there, i think orion is about as powerful as they are. and martian manhunter, supergirl, powergirl and wonder woman are too."

did you see 52?

#28 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

20? does DC have 20 characters?

#29 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Rotten gun says:

"20? does DC have 20 characters?"

LMAO

#30 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"

I'll have to dissargree on that one! especially if you've read GL#25!

#31 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Apparition says:
"why's darkside so far down?"
because DC has so much powerhouses I'm not sure who is stronger between him and Captain Marvel tough"

um, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it darkseid! and he spanks capt marvel!

#32 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"Nighthunter says:
"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"

I'll have to dissargree on that one! especially if you've read GL#25!"

yeah, I read it

your point?

#33 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"Nighthunter says:
"Apparition says:
"why's darkside so far down?"
because DC has so much powerhouses I'm not sure who is stronger between him and Captain Marvel tough"

um, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it darkseid! and he spanks capt marvel!"

As far as I know, they haven't battled

so it's dificult to determine since both of them are powerhouses but weaker than superman

#34 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"lordraiden says:
"Nighthunter says:
"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"
I'll have to dissargree on that one! especially if you've read GL#25!"
yeah, I read it your point?"

my point is the antimonitor got spanked and hurled into space! I doubt this version is anywhere near spectre level!

#35 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"lordraiden says:
"Nighthunter says:
"Apparition says:
"why's darkside so far down?"
because DC has so much powerhouses I'm not sure who is stronger between him and Captain Marvel tough"
um, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it darkseid! and he spanks capt marvel!"
As far as I know, they haven't battled so it's dificult to determine since both of them are powerhouses but weaker than superman"

are we talking current capt marvel who now goes by the name Lord Marvel, or old school capt marvel!~

#36 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"Nighthunter says:
"lordraiden says:
"Nighthunter says:
"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"
I'll have to dissargree on that one! especially if you've read GL#25!"
yeah, I read it your point?"

my point is the antimonitor got spanked and hurled into space! I doubt this version is anywhere near spectre level!"

the anti-monitor wasn't at his full power

have you seen crisis on infinite earths?

#37 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Old School... and Superman beat the Original Ion?

#38 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"Nighthunter says:
"lordraiden says:
"Nighthunter says:
"Apparition says:
"why's darkside so far down?"
because DC has so much powerhouses I'm not sure who is stronger between him and Captain Marvel tough"
um, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it darkseid! and he spanks capt marvel!"
As far as I know, they haven't battled so it's dificult to determine since both of them are powerhouses but weaker than superman"

are we talking current capt marvel who now goes by the name Lord Marvel, or old school capt marvel!~"

look at the list

Lord Marvel is almost at top of the list

Captain Marvel is almost at the bottom

I put both of them beacuse Dormmanu asked

#39 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu says:

"Old School... and Superman beat the Original Ion?"

no, original ion is way more powerful than supes

#41 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu says:

"http://www.comicvine.com/dc-power-rankings/42222/DC power rankings... Anti Monitor is higher than Spectre at Full Power."

that list isn't totallt accurate

still the Anti-Monitor is stronger

#42 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"lordraiden says:
"Nighthunter says:
"lordraiden says:
"Nighthunter says:
"Dormammu says:
"Parallax beats Original Ion, and Anti-Monitor beats Spectre?"
I think parallax is more powerful than ion and yes the anti-monitor should be stronger than the spectre"
I'll have to dissargree on that one! especially if you've read GL#25!"
yeah, I read it your point?"
my point is the antimonitor got spanked and hurled into space! I doubt this version is anywhere near spectre level!"
the anti-monitor wasn't at his full power have you seen crisis on infinite earths?"

yeah, I have! thats why I said current monty! crises on infinite earths monty would prob take out galactus!

#43 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

I asked Dormmanu if current incarnations or any incarnation

he said both

so you can see various superman, spectre and marvels

#44 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. coie anti-monitor

  2. mxyptlk

  3. parallax (hal jordon)

  4. spectre

  5. imperiex

  6. pc/kirby darkseid

  7. chrona

  8. Lord Marvel

  9. guardians of oa

  10. pc mongul

#45 Posted by lordraiden (7601 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"I asked Dormmanu if current incarnations or any incarnation he said both so you can see various superman, spectre and marvels"

gotcha! thanx!

#46 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. The Presence

  2. Ion (Old)

  3. Anti-Monitor

  4. Parallax (Old)

  5. Specter

  6. Starheart

  7. Ganthet

  8. Gog

  9. Mxyzptlk

  10. Darkseid

M

#47 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"1. The Presence2. Ion (Old)3. Anti-Monitor4. Parallax (Old)5. Specter6. Starheart7. Ganthet8. Gog9. Mxyzptlk10. DarkseidM"

I thought original Paralleax was stronger than the original Ion

the rest of the guardians?

Sodam Yat?

Monarch?

#48 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

no... original Ion was many times more powerful than original Parallax...

Sodam's not even in that power level, neither is Monarch...

So far i haven't seen the rest of the Guardians do anything that even compares to what Ganthet is capable of

M

#49 Posted by Copy (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"1. The Presence 2. Ion (Old) 3. Anti-Monitor 4. Parallax (Old) 5. Specter 6. Starheart 7. Ganthet 8. Gog 9. Mxyzptlk 10. Darkseid M"

I almost agree with that. I believe old parallax is weaker then spectre.

#50 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"no... original Ion was many times more powerful than original Parallax...Sodam's not even in that power level, neither is Monarch...So far i haven't seen the rest of the Guardians do anything that even compares to what Ganthet is capable ofM"

in countdown arena Monarch was attacked by three supermans and they couldn't do anything to him

Now that I think about it Prime and Sodam are also stronger than Darkside

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