just pure hand to hand combat no weapons gadgets or powers just pure martial art skill whos the best. my top 5 are 1 karate kid 2 richard dragon 3 lady shiva 4 batman 5 batgirl (cassandra cain)
just pure hand to hand combat no weapons gadgets or powers just pure martial art skill whos the best. my top 5 are 1 karate kid 2 richard dragon 3 lady shiva 4 batman 5 batgirl (cassandra cain)
I agree with Karate Kid being at the top.
What about Bronze Tiger
Forever says:
"The_Creator says:"I agree with Karate Kid being at the top. What about Bronze Tiger "He's at least as good as Richard Dragon."
Which would put him above Batman.
the top 3 are definite but 4 and 5 you could choose any number of people with the top 2 being bronze tiger and and constantine drakon
Karate Kid shouldn't be in it, he has too many advantages. My list?
1. Cassandra Cain
2. Lady Shiva
3. Batman
4. Black Canary
5. Connor Hawke
no richard dragon? no bronze tiger?
"Karate Kid shouldn't be in it, he has too many advantages. My list?I think your missing Bronze Tiger & Richard Dragon.
1. Cassandra Cain
2. Lady Shiva
3. Batman
4. Black Canary
5. Connor Hawke"
Karate Kid
The Sensei
Richard Dragon
Lady Shiva
Connor Hawke
1. Cassandra CainIs Cassandra Cain really a better martial artist than Batman?
3. Batman
Even without it, I'd still say she is. She's been trained since birth to fight.
Actually, reviewing my list, Black Canary and Connor Hawke I'd put above Batman. Batman's a good martial artist, sure, but he's not on the same level as those ones. The difference is that in his city, he knows everything. He plans everything. He has all these gadgets and stuff that put him above them.
But lock them only in their underwear in a blank room, 8/10 Cassandra Cain will win, 10/10 Lady Shiva will win, 8/10 Black Canary will win, and 8/10 Connor Hawke will win.
If I remember correctly, he's Richard Dragon level, who's below Lady Shiva, who's the same as Black Canary, Connor Hawke and Cassandra Cain.
DC comics encycopedia says BATMAN!!!
"Sorry but KK is way above Batman"
"Sorry but KK is way above Batman"People with access to 30th Century fighting techniques are disqualified.
"Lunacyde said:You didn't make the thread so I don't see how you can disqualify anyone."Sorry but KK is way above Batman"People with access to 30th Century fighting techniques are disqualified."
You didn't make the thread so I don't see how you can disqualify anyone."I could have sworn I just did. Because you don't seem to get it, I will explain with smaller words.
Karate Kid
Richard Dragon
Bronze Tiger
Lady Shiva
Conner Hawke
Batman still layed Shiva out, and that wasn't with gadgets and planning, it was with a right cross. Anyway, my list in the order that I see it .
"Karate Kid"
Karate Kid
Richard Dragon
Bronze Tiger
Lady Shiva
Batman
Batgirl
Note that, the way I see it, this list is not absolute. Any one of them could beat any one else, depending on the minor circumstances.
Except KK of course, he owns everyone.
"Karate Kid
Note that, the way I see it, this list is not absolute. Any one of them could beat any one else, depending on the minor circumstances.
Except KK of course, he owns everyone.
"
"AtPhantom said:He didn't exactly fight him to a standstill. It was obvious that KK would win soon enough. Batman just played him by making him forget about Black Lightning, who then took him out from the back."Karate Kid
Note that, the way I see it, this list is not absolute. Any one of them could beat any one else, depending on the minor circumstances.
Except KK of course, he owns everyone.
"
I did not include him because his ability to fight can almost be considered a "power". And even though I did not put the Bat on my list, I know he fought Karate Kid to a standstill, which if taken as canon makes him better than everyone on my list. It is all interpertation, isn't it?"
"Karate Kid shouldn't be in it, he has too many advantages.Such as?
"I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before"AtPhantom said:
"It was obvious that KK would win soon enough. Batman just played him by making him forget about Black Lightning, who then took him out from the back.
But yeah, bats is one of the best.
"
"I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before"I heard that Batman was on par with him skill wise.
"SUNMAN said:"I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before"AtPhantom said:"It was obvious that KK would win soon enough. Batman just played him by making him forget about Black Lightning, who then took him out from the back.
But yeah, bats is one of the best.
"
"
"Batman still layed Shiva out, and that wasn't with gadgets and planning, it was with a right cross. Anyway, my list in the order that I see it . "PIS. It happened in Batman/Superman. They took down all sorts of characters they shouldn't have been able to in that arc.
I dont think she is either... but I'm not 100% sure. ^^'
1.Lady shiva/ Black canary / Batman
2.Cassandra Cain / Cheshire
3.Huntress
Karate Kid
Richard Dragon
Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Batgirl
Deathstroke
Conner Hawke
Batman
Black Canary
Wildcat
Wonder Woman
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