who is the best dc martial artist

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#1 Posted by DragonGateAcer (5400 posts) - - Show Bio

just pure hand to hand combat no weapons gadgets or powers just pure martial art skill whos the best. my top 5 are 1 karate kid 2 richard dragon 3 lady shiva 4 batman 5 batgirl (cassandra cain)

#2 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with Karate Kid being at the top.

What about Bronze Tiger

#3 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"The_Creator says:
"I agree with Karate Kid being at the top. What about Bronze Tiger "
He's at least as good as Richard Dragon."

Which would put him above Batman.

#4 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"I agree with Karate Kid being at the top. What about Bronze Tiger "

He's at least as good as Richard Dragon.

#5 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely

#6 Posted by DragonGateAcer (5400 posts) - - Show Bio

the top 3 are definite but 4 and 5 you could choose any number of people with the top 2 being bronze tiger and and constantine drakon

#7 Posted by Hawkingbird (350 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid shouldn't be in it, he has too many advantages. My list?

1. Cassandra Cain
2. Lady Shiva
3. Batman
4. Black Canary
5. Connor Hawke

#8 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

no richard dragon?  no bronze tiger?

#9 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
Hawkingbird said:
"Karate Kid shouldn't be in it, he has too many advantages. My list?

1. Cassandra Cain
2. Lady Shiva
3. Batman
4. Black Canary
5. Connor Hawke"
I think your missing Bronze Tiger & Richard Dragon.
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#10 Posted by Nighthunter (28580 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid

The Sensei

Richard Dragon

Lady Shiva

Connor Hawke

#11 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Hawkingbird said:
1. Cassandra Cain
3. Batman
Is Cassandra Cain really a better martial artist than Batman?

Without her ability to read moves, I don't think she is.
#12 Posted by Hawkingbird (350 posts) - - Show Bio

Even without it, I'd still say she is. She's been trained since birth to fight.

Actually, reviewing my list, Black Canary and Connor Hawke I'd put above Batman. Batman's a good martial artist, sure, but he's not on the same level as those ones. The difference is that in his city, he knows everything. He plans everything. He has all these gadgets and stuff that put him above them.

But lock them only in their underwear in a blank room, 8/10 Cassandra Cain will win, 10/10 Lady Shiva will win, 8/10 Black Canary will win, and 8/10 Connor Hawke will win.

#13 Posted by Quintus_Knightfall (84550 posts) - - Show Bio

What about Bronze Tiger?

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#14 Posted by Hawkingbird (350 posts) - - Show Bio

If I remember correctly, he's Richard Dragon level, who's below Lady Shiva, who's the same as Black Canary, Connor Hawke and Cassandra Cain.

#15 Posted by ClarkJosephKent1938DC (682 posts) - - Show Bio

DC comics encycopedia says BATMAN!!!

#16 Posted by Alpha (7324 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Batman's skill plus his drive makes him the bset martial artist. His will and focus is incrediable.

#17 Posted by Lunacyde (17932 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry but KK is way above Batman

#18 Posted by Alpha (7324 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"Sorry but KK is way above Batman"

That may be in pure skill, but martial arts is more than that. The better skilled doesn't always mean the better fighter. That's why it' sbelievable that the Batman could stand against the Sensei (who is way above KK) as long as he did.
#19 Posted by Lunacyde (17932 posts) - - Show Bio

aight ....good point, but at some point skill takes over

#20 Posted by Hawkingbird (350 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"Sorry but KK is way above Batman"
People with access to 30th Century fighting techniques are disqualified.
#21 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
Hawkingbird said:
"Lunacyde said:
"Sorry but KK is way above Batman"
People with access to 30th Century fighting techniques are disqualified."
You didn't make the thread so I don't see how you can disqualify anyone.
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#22 Posted by Fresh Prince (4987 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid

#23 Posted by NightFang (9903 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Karate Kid.
2. Batgirl (Cassandra Cain).
3. Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)
4. Lady Shiva
5. Bronze Tiger
6. Richard Dragon

#24 Posted by Hawkingbird (350 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
You didn't make the thread so I don't see how you can disqualify anyone."
I could have sworn I just did. Because you don't seem to get it, I will explain with smaller words.

Karate Kid can't count. He gets better moves then other fighters.
#25 Posted by SUNMAN (7141 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Karate Kid
  2. The Sensei
  3. Bronze Tiger
  4. Richard Dragon
  5. Lady Shiva
#26 Posted by Detective (524 posts) - - Show Bio

no order:
Batman
Bronze Tiger
Ra's Al Ghul
Lady Shiva
Richard Dragon

#27 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid
Richard Dragon
Bronze Tiger
Lady Shiva
Conner Hawke

#28 Posted by Secret Turchin Man (1852 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman still layed Shiva out, and that wasn't with gadgets and planning, it was with a right cross. Anyway, my list in the order that I see it .

  1. Sandra Wu-San
  2. Richard Dragon
  3. Ben Turner
  4. Constantine Drakon
  5. Connor Hawke
#29 Posted by Fresh Prince (4987 posts) - - Show Bio
Fresh Prince said:
"Karate Kid"

#30 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid



Richard Dragon
Bronze Tiger
Lady Shiva
Batman
 Batgirl


Note that, the way I see it, this list is not absolute. Any one of them could beat any one else, depending on the minor circumstances.
Except KK of course, he owns everyone.

#31 Edited by Secret Turchin Man (1852 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Karate Kid

Note that, the way I see it, this list is not absolute. Any one of them could beat any one else, depending on the minor circumstances.
Except KK of course, he owns everyone.
"

I did not include him because his ability to fight can almost be considered a "power". And even though I did not put the Bat on my list, I know he fought Karate Kid to a standstill, which if taken as canon makes him better than everyone on my list. It is all interpertation, isn't it?
#32 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
Secret Turchin Man said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Karate Kid

Note that, the way I see it, this list is not absolute. Any one of them could beat any one else, depending on the minor circumstances.
Except KK of course, he owns everyone.
"

I did not include him because his ability to fight can almost be considered a "power". And even though I did not put the Bat on my list, I know he fought Karate Kid to a standstill, which if taken as canon makes him better than everyone on my list. It is all interpertation, isn't it?"
He didn't exactly fight him to a standstill. It was obvious that KK would win soon enough. Batman just played him by making him forget about Black Lightning, who then took him out from the back.
But yeah, bats is one of the best.
#33 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
Hawkingbird said:
"Karate Kid shouldn't be in it, he has too many advantages. 
Such as?
#34 Posted by SUNMAN (7141 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before

#35 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
SUNMAN said:
"I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before"
AtPhantom said:
"It was obvious that KK would win soon enough. Batman just played him by making him forget about Black Lightning, who then took him out from the back.
But yeah, bats is one of the best.
"

#36 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
SUNMAN said:
"I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before"
I heard that Batman was on par with him skill wise.
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#37 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"SUNMAN said:
"I thought Batman took out Karate Kid before"
AtPhantom said:
"It was obvious that KK would win soon enough. Batman just played him by making him forget about Black Lightning, who then took him out from the back.
But yeah, bats is one of the best.
"

"

Also, KK had amnesia and was dying of a disease.
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#38 Posted by Kentaxx (2350 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO
Top 5 no specific order

Shiva
Cassanda Cain
Bronze Tiger
Constantine Drakon
Karate Kid

#39 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman
Shiva and
Cassandra Cain

#40 Edited by Quintus_Knightfall (84550 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Karate Kid
  • Richard Dragon
  • Lady Shiva
  • Bronze Tiger
  • Batgirl
  • Batman

This is in no real particular order.

Secret Turchin Man said:
"Batman still layed Shiva out, and that wasn't with gadgets and planning, it was with a right cross. Anyway, my list in the order that I see it . "
PIS. It happened in Batman/Superman. They took down all sorts of characters they shouldn't have been able to in that arc.






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#41 Posted by Feral Nova (46389 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Cassandra Cain
  • Lady Shiva
  • Bronze Tiger
  • Batman
  • DeathStroke

And um... what about Black Canary? Last I heard she was trained by Lady Shiva o_O
#42 Posted by Quintus_Knightfall (84550 posts) - - Show Bio
Feral Nova said:
"And um... what about Black Canary? Last I heard she was trained by Lady Shiva o_O
"
Yup. Good call. But I'm not sure she's in the upper tier. I could be wrong though.
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#43 Posted by Feral Nova (46389 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think she is either... but I'm not 100% sure. ^^' 

#44 Posted by Mr. Exfed (1127 posts) - - Show Bio

Overall Karate Kid

DCU Current timeline

Constantine Drakon

#45 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Lady shiva/ Black canary / Batman
2.Cassandra Cain / Cheshire
3.Huntress

#46 Posted by Ellocobruja (559 posts) - - Show Bio

Not Counting Karate Kid. 
 
 Richard Dragon 
Batman 
Lady Shiva 
Wonder Woman 
Bronze Tiger 
#47 Posted by Starrk (549 posts) - - Show Bio

I forgot i made this xP
 

  1. Karate Kid
  2. Cassandra Cain
  3. Richard Dragon
  4. Bronze Tiger
  5. Connor Hawke
#48 Edited by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio

Karate Kid 
Richard Dragon 
Lady Shiva 
Bronze Tiger  
Batgirl 
Deathstroke 
Conner Hawke
Batman 
Black Canary 
Wildcat 
Wonder Woman

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#49 Posted by Bastion the Master--Sentinel (60 posts) - - Show Bio

what´s about david cain? isn´t he a good fighter too?
#50 Posted by Quintus_Knightfall (84550 posts) - - Show Bio

He was. Not so sure about anymore though.

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