Some DC Characters were better before the reboot. I'm talking characterization--not costumes.
For example, Jaime Reyes, the Blue Beetle had a much better written book and personality pre-reboot.

Can you think of any other examples?
The NEW 52 is perfect in every way!
No, but seriously aside from Red Robin (who's characterisation i still like, however feel isn't as strong as previously) i can't really think of any characters i personally think were better pre-52.
Edit: Scratch that. I just remembered Green Arrow. Horrible, horrible characterisation so far, i know they were going for the smallville angle but they haven't even done that right! Hopefully Nocenti will set that straight.
Well, I guess I kinda have one. John Constantine in Justice League Dark, I mean I understand that the one in the new 52 is a alternate version of him, but i just really think he should be left to Vertigo. The new 52 one is just to toned down for me, which for some people may be a good thing, but I prefer the the violence and obscenities in the good old Hellblazer series seems to have always had. That is just my opinion though.
Captain Atom was great before, now he's basically become the DCU's Dr. Manhattan.
Green Arrow was also great before, he could've had a great road to redemption story after Brightest Day. Now he's just an average hero with his past problems swept under the rug. And I know you said no costumes, but the lack of goatee still ****ing angers me.


GA and Clark. Ga was completely screwed over by the reboot, 99% of his appeal pre-new 52 was how screwed up he was. Clark probably had the best and worst reboot of all of them. He benefits from an awesome writer in Action Comics but lost his parents, his wife , his son and his dog.
@Feniks said:
@The_Tree: I haven't read Green Lantern yet, only Justice League but in it, he's a MAJOR douche. Hal was always kind of a douche, but not that bad.
He's a douche in JLA and a major bitch in GL. All he does is complain.
Personally, I think EVERY character was better pre-relaunch. I like the New 52 a lot, but I prefer the old.
Midnighter, Midnighter, Power Girl, Jenny Quantum, Apollo, Midnighter, Barbara Gordon, Midnighter, the Kents and Midnighter.
@JediXMan said:
Ravager, Wally West, and Beast Boy (HE'S GREEN!)
She's getting a lot of focus in the months to come, appearances in Superboy, Legion Lost, the TT Annual and she's going to be one of the main antagonists (along with Warblade) in Ravagers.
I'll probably get in trouble for this but I'll say...all of 'em.
@CitizenBane: She may be appearing, but she's not the Rose Wilson we all know and love.
She still got screwed. I liked her character and then they just ruined it all.Midnighter, Midnighter, Power Girl, Jenny Quantum, Apollo, Midnighter, Barbara Gordon, Midnighter, the Kents and Midnighter.
@JediXMan said:
Ravager, Wally West, and Beast Boy (HE'S GREEN!)She's getting a lot of focus in the months to come, appearances in Superboy, Legion Lost, the TT Annual and she's going to be one of the main antagonists (along with Warblade) in Ravagers.
@Morgaine_de_Bourbon:I really haven't seen enough of her to figure out how much has changed but so far I'm not seeing a radical personality shift. The only thing that's really changed (as far as I can tell from her limited appearances so far) is that she has both eyes and may not be Slade's daughter.
GREEN ARROW!!! GAWD HE SUCKS NOW<---The rare and powerful passion caps lock
@RedheadedAtrocitus said:
I'll probably get in trouble for this but I'll say...all of 'em.
This.
But, to play nice, I'll limit myself to Barbara Gordon.
The only characters that I like more now, post-relaunch, are Animal Man and Superman. The rest I either like equally as much now as before (such as Zatanna, Deadman, and Batman) or I think are completely ruined (such as Barbara Gordon, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, The Birds of Prey, Roy Harper, etc.), or they are missing and I'm worried about how much they'll be changed in the future (such as Renee Montoya).
@cosmo111687 said:
The only characters that I like more now, post-relaunch, are Animal Man and Superman. The rest I either like equally as much now as before (such as Zatanna, Deadman, and Batman) or I think are completely ruined (such as Barbara Gordon, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, The Birds of Prey, Roy Harper, etc.), or they are missing and I'm worried about how much they'll be changed in the future (such as Renee Montoya).
I like the new poison ivy and i love birds of prey. Missing Renee Montoya!!!
@BlackArmor said:
Barbra Gordon
So true.
Hal Jordan is exactly the same as before pre-launch.
Midnighter (costume)
Apollo (costume)
Starfire (character)
Wally (where is he?)
Donna (where is she?)
@Hawk80:
Power Girl already was a supporting character in new Mr. Terrific series .
I'll also say that Robotman was better. He just seems off, his powers don't seem right to me, and if I'm not mistaken they changed his origin yet again. Keith Giffen gave the perfect origin and characterization of the character pre-relaunch.
For me it would definitely be Roy Harper/Arsenal..he had a lot of depth with everything that had happened to him, the loss of his arm, Lian, etc, now he's a joke, and a bad one at that
I don't think Zatanna was better before. She's quite the same, but the old costume was better.
@Kairan1979 said:
@Hawk80:
Power Girl already was a supporting character in new Mr. Terrific series .
I know, I know... I just want power girl to go POWER GIRL!!!
Even though pandora bracelets and pandora beads NZ could be Pandora’s hottest proposition, other appealing red pandora nz jewellery is usually obtained as well. Lovepod rings and earrings set with red topaz function alongside silver options set with garnet and rhodalite, when red leather cord necklets await the attachment of beads.Established in 1982 by goldsmith Per Enevoldsen,pandora charms nz at the moment is called a jewellery phenomenon inside the international scale.
@Gambit1024 said:
- Barbara Gordon
- Superboy
- Powergirl
- Green Arrow
- Kyle Rayner
- Wally West
- Harley Quinn
- Lex Luthor
Almost this(excluding Harley).
mr. terrific,wally west, martian manhunter,
That said, I am...impressed by her new costume. 8D
@ArturoCalaKayVee said:
@Feniks said:
@The_Tree: I haven't read Green Lantern yet, only Justice League but in it, he's a MAJOR douche. Hal was always kind of a douche, but not that bad.
He's a douche in JLA and a major bitch in GL. All he does is complain.
Personally, I think EVERY character was better pre-relaunch. I like the New 52 a lot, but I prefer the old.
yaa i was really hoping that the main green lantern series got a new creative team. i was eager to see how green lantern would change. but then that A**hole geoff johns continued his story even after the reboot?! i didnt like what geoff johns did with the charter after sinestro corps war. he turned green lantern into starwars-sy kinda series. i miss when green lantern was a hero! i mean what does he do thats heroic anymore!? he's not even a superhero! like i can see the green lantern corps title being a space opera title, because that title focuses on the corps activity. green lantern shouldnt be written like this, especially him being sinestros B**tch! he should be like how he was before, going planet to planet savign a city or planet. then thered be a sub plot leading to an event. kinda like how geoff johns started his character then led into sinestro corps war!. what happened to the series!? all just to make other corps and that be the focus. and then people would be distracted liek "OOOO PRETTY COLORS! 0.0"
well its not distracting me geoff johns..stick to aquaman and give someone else a shot at the green lantern series, I SAY!
Pretty much all of the Teen Titans have taken a turn for the worse. I hear there's some sort of organization targeting teenaged heroes, meaning Lobdell has pretty much transposed the underlying theme of X-Men. Yarf.
The second Liefeld was attached to whomever he was working on got ruined.
Green Arrow
Barbara Gordon
Deadshot
Rose Wilson
Power Girl
This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for:
Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Comic Vine users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.
Log in to comment