W/c DC ladies are as popular or more popular than Storm?

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#1 Posted by jhazzroucher (13934 posts) - - Show Bio

Aside from Wonder Woman, who else is as popular or more popular than Storm?

#2 Posted by Remi (613 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of them...

#3 Posted by SandMan_ (4526 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow?

#4 Posted by CODYSF (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@Remi said:

Most of them...

#5 Posted by CODYSF (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl

#6 Posted by jhazzroucher (13934 posts) - - Show Bio

@CODYSF said:

@Remi said:

Most of them...

like who?

@SandMan_ said:

Black Widow?

Black Widow is from Marvel Comics.

#7 Posted by CODYSF (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman

#8 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3317 posts) - - Show Bio
@CODYSF said:

Supergirl

#9 Posted by Twentyfive (2405 posts) - - Show Bio

Only three others. Supergirl, Batgirl, and Catwoman. They are as popular, or more popular. Other than that, Storm is another female hero icon.

#10 Posted by CODYSF (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@Twentyfive said:

Only three others. Supergirl, Batgirl, and Catwoman. They are as popular, or more popular. Other than that, Storm is another female hero icon.

True now that I think about it pretty much that's it lol

#11 Posted by CODYSF (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Canary is getting popular now a days but not popular as Storm

#12 Posted by Twentyfive (2405 posts) - - Show Bio

@CODYSF said:

@Twentyfive said:

Only three others. Supergirl, Batgirl, and Catwoman. They are as popular, or more popular. Other than that, Storm is another female hero icon.

True now that I think about it pretty much that's it lol

Yep. Lol. See ya, my friend.

#13 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

Batgirl and Supergirl have both managed to headline their own books for a while, and occasionally did so even before Storm's creation.

#14 Posted by Icarusflies (12246 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Canary, both Barbara and Cassie as Batgirl (and Barbara as Oracle), Wonder Girl, Artemis (due to YJ), Miss Martian (due to YJ), Huntress, Power Girl, Supergirl, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn

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#15 Posted by CODYSF (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies said:

Black Canary, both Barbara and Cassie as Batgirl (and Barbara as Oracle), Wonder Girl, Artemis (due to YJ), Miss Martian (due to YJ), Huntress, Power Girl, Supergirl, Lois Lane, Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn

Oh yeah Poison Ivy,Louis Lane, and Harley Quinn how the heck did I forgot about them.

#16 Posted by Video_Martian (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl, Batgirl, Catwoman

#17 Posted by cattlebattle (12275 posts) - - Show Bio

I would argue that Storm is likely Marvels most popular at least one of them...DC has a lot though.......Batgirl, Catwoman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman etc...

#18 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7118 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl, Batgirl, Catwoman, Louis Lane, Poison Ivy, Wonder Woman.

ALOT.

#19 Posted by BlackArmor (6121 posts) - - Show Bio

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

Supergirl, Batgirl, Catwoman, Louis Lane, Poison Ivy, Wonder Woman.

ALOT.

this

#20 Posted by ReVamp (22859 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Barbara Gordon...

#21 Posted by X35 (5972 posts) - - Show Bio

All of them

Oh. i thought you said better...

#22 Posted by The Stegman (20733 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman 
Batgirl 
Lois Lane 
Supergirl 
Poison Ivy 
Harley Quinn

#23 Posted by Katie24 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

Has Storm ever even had her own book?

#24 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Stegman said:
Catwoman Batgirl Lois Lane Supergirl Poison Ivy Harley Quinn
Couldn't have said this better myself.
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#25 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
@Katie24 said:

Has Storm ever even had her own book?

She had several miniseries, but no, never her own book. 
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#26 Posted by daredevil21134 (9093 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman

#27 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

Any Veteran X-Men Member like Cyclops or Rouge can hold their own book. It would probably sell 11k units or so. It just that marvel doesn't want to use their resources on them and can make make more money doing using their resource elsewhere.

#28 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl have more than 100 solo issues for each of them. Recently Batwoman joined the rank as a top 25 book. Worlds finest top 20. When Marvel have a solo female book that went pass 50 issues or sells in the top 25, then we'll talk.

Captain Marvel looks like she has potential. We'll see.

#29 Posted by X35 (5972 posts) - - Show Bio

@moywar700 said:

Any Veteran X-Men Member like Cyclops or Rouge can hold their own book. It would probably sell 11k units or so. It just that marvel doesn't want to use their resources on them and can make make more money doing using their resource elsewhere.

Hahaha, 11k is an awful amount to sell! Books have been cancelled due to "low sales" with much more units sold.

#30 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

Batgirl, Supergirl, Catwoman all stablised at 20k to 30k after 50 issues or so. both Supergirl sold almost 200k for #1 the last time Kara held her book before the reboot. Batgirl and Wonder Woman Both sold 100k with this reboot. Batwoman a new character created in the last decade sold around 80-90k for its first issue. Worlds' Finest made almost 70k in its first issue. Amongst batgirl, Batwoman and wonder woman, sales have stablised at over 40-50+k. With Supergirl selling the lowest at around 35k this may, above titles like wolverine, FF, the ultimates, mighty Thor and Winter Soldier. Its no wonder Dc keeps releasing female titles. like the upcoming Swords and Sorcery featuring Amethyst. Marvel on the other hand cancelled their last female title and it's unlikely to be producing more than one female title at one time. So yeah, if sales equals popularity then DC females are all much more popular than marvel females including storm. Supergirl, Batgirl, Catwoman and ww are also infinitely more iconic than storm.

#31 Posted by HolySerpent (12338 posts) - - Show Bio

Everything Icarusflies said i agree.

#32 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3274 posts) - - Show Bio

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

Supergirl, Batgirl, Catwoman, Louis Lane, Poison Ivy, Wonder Woman.

ALOT.

I agree. I'm not a huge DC fan, having just started reading the "52" series, but their female characters tend to have their own comics and longer histories than Marvel's characters. Many of them are simply given more to do. Some of these characters don't have devoted fans who dedicate every spare waking moment to write on their forums, debate them on message boards and etc, but some of these characters are more popular by virtue of story presence, brand presence in the DC universe and weight of history.

@sethysquare: Yep, those numbers look about right. DC readers are willing to buy a story with a female lead. Marvel, for the most part, concentrates on it's big money makers, like Wolverine, Spiderman, Captain America, etc. I don't have enough data on buyers to tease out any demographic reason for this, though I would suggest it has to do with some characteristic of both the DC writers and the readers.

#33 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@PhoenixoftheTides: I guess at the end of the day DC just puts in more effort to write their female titles. Even Lois Lane has her own comics for over two hundred issues or so. Plus they have a longer history so theres more stuff to write about. Marvel on the otherhand just couldn't write female titles well. Their star female at the moment couln't even get her own solo. But yeah they're juat focusing on having multiple titiles from the same character. Hulk, Captain America, Thor, Spiderman, Wolverine and Deadpool.

#34 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

all of them. except jessie quick. she slept with her mothers fiance. she sucks.

#35 Posted by jhazzroucher (13934 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl have more than 100 solo issues for each of them. Recently Batwoman joined the rank as a top 25 book. Worlds finest top 20. When Marvel have a solo female book that went pass 50 issues or sells in the top 25, then we'll talk.

Captain Marvel looks like she has potential. We'll see.

I can't argue with those ladies having their own ongoing but Storm still has more number of appearances in comics than each of the female characters that you mentioned.

Have you included their exposure in films, cartoon series and video games?

#36 Edited by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@sethysquare said:

Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl have more than 100 solo issues for each of them. Recently Batwoman joined the rank as a top 25 book. Worlds finest top 20. When Marvel have a solo female book that went pass 50 issues or sells in the top 25, then we'll talk.

Captain Marvel looks like she has potential. We'll see.

I can't argue with those ladies having their own ongoing but Storm still has more number of appearances in comics than each of the female characters that you mentioned.

Have you included their exposure in films, cartoon series and video games?

Batgirl- TV SERIES

Batman: TV SERIES (1967-1968)

Librarian Barbara Gordon (and her alter ego Batgirl) was portrayed by Yvonne Craig in the third season of the Batman television series (1967–1968), where she appeared in all 26 episodes. Her Batgirl costume incorporated a long red wig to hide her real avocado-style, black hair.

Birds of Prey TV SERIES

In 2002, Barbara Gordon (played by Dina Meyer) appeared as one of the main characters in the WB television series, Birds of Prey.

Animations

The Adventures of Batman

Main article: The Adventures of Batman

The Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl made her first animated appearance in the 1968 series The Adventures of Batman. Jane Webb provided her voice. Barbara Gordon, this time working in the District Attorney's office, made several appearances in both her civilian persona and as her alter ego in the 1977 Saturday morning animated series The New Adventures of Batman. Adam West and Burt Wardreprised their roles to provide the voices for Batman and Robin, but Melendy Britt voiced Batgirl.

Superfriends

Main article: Superfriends

Although not appearing in the television show, Batgirl does appear in some of the merchandise produced for the show.

DC Animated Universe

Main article: DC animated universe

Barbara Gordon has also appeared as Batgirl in Bruce Timm's DC animated universe. Melissa Gilbert voiced her in Batman: The Animated Series. Mary Kay Bergman provided her voice in the animated movie Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero. Tara Strong provided her voice for The New Batman Adventures. An older Barbara Gordon, now Police commissioner, appeared in Batman Beyond, voiced first by Stockard Channing and later by Angie Harmon. Harmon reprised her role in the film Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, and Tara Strong provided the voice of the younger Barbara Gordon during flashback sequences.

Batman: The Animated Series

Main article: Batman: The Animated Series

Barbara Gordon as she appears inBatman: The Animated Series.

The character is introduced as Barbara Gordon in the first season of Batman: The Animated Series two-part episode "Heart of Steel." In the second season premiere, "Shadow of the Bat" (another two-part episode), Commissioner Gordon is framed for corruption. Barbara contacts Batman and asks him to appear at a rally to support Gordon, but Batman declines, citing more important things to do. Barbara Gordon decides to impersonate Batman, intending only to be seen in the shadows. However, when there is a drive-by shooting, she leaps into action to assist. Robin appears as well, and attempts to grab her, but only succeeds in ripping the back of her mask, causing her hair to spill out. Media articles the next day ask the question "Who is Batgirl?" Gordon decides she can accomplish her goal with greater ease asBatgirl than as a civilian. She discovers who is behind the frame-up and goes to rescue her father, only to complicate the rescue already underway by Batman and Robin. In the end, Batgirl is the one who captures the criminal. Although Batman had been critical of her at first, he changes his mind after witnessing her capabilities. She has a flirting relationship with Dick Grayson.

Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero

Main article: Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero

In Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero, Barbara Gordon is kidnapped by an associate of Mr. Freeze because she is an exact match for a transplant needed to save Freeze's wife. The bulk of the film showcases Barbara Gordon (not in her Batgirl costume) using her skills to evade Mr. Freeze while trying to escape his hideout. Eventually, Batman and Robin locate her, and the three of them manage to destroy Mr. Freeze's hideout and escape. It is also shown in this film that Barbara is in a relationship with Dick Grayson. A computer screen gives her age as 20.

The New Batman Adventures

Main article: The New Batman Adventures

Barbara Gordonas she appears inThe New Batman Adventures.

During The New Batman Adventures (and Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman) Tara Strong voiced Barbara. After making only a few appearances in Batman: The Animated Series, Batman allows her into the Batcave, and she becomes a main character and is Batman's main partner during The New Batman Adventures. Batgirl was made an addition to the cast with producer Bruce Timm stating, "The consumer products division and the people at the WB wanted to make sure kids would watch the show, so they strongly suggested we include Batgirl and Robin as a way of courting young girl audiences as well as young boys...We liked the Batgirl character and I certainly didn't mind putting her in the show." It is also shown in the series that her previous relationship with Dick did not last. "You Scratch My Back" emphasized this, portraying her relationship with Dick as strenuous. Also, in "Over the Edge" Dick states that he "can't believe it ended like this for us or Barbara." Along with all other characters in the series, Barbara's civilian and superhero identity were redesigned. Her Batgirl costume was changed to a black body suit with yellow gloves and boots to match her original comic book design.

Gotham Girls

Main article: Gotham Girls

Barbara Gordon is also a featured character in the Flash animated web series Gotham Girls (2002). A joint production of Warner Bros. and Noodle Soup Productions, the series stars Batgirl protecting Gotham City from the criminal activities of Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and Harley Quinn. Although not restricted to the animated continuity, the main characters were adapted from The New Batman Adventures.

Justice League

Main article: Justice League (TV series)

The character in this continuity also made several brief cameo appearances in the Justice League series. Because of the "Bat Embargo" they could not use her or other Batman characters in the actual series for the majority of the time, however. She appears in "The Savage Time" (Part I), in the alternate timeline where she can be seen kissing an alternate Dick Grayson (as confirmed by the producers of the show). She was also mentioned briefly in "Comfort and Joy," when Clark Kent asks his mother where Supergirl was. Mrs. Kent responded, "She's skiing with Barbara." Batgirl and Supergirl had been established as close friends in the New Batman Adventuresepisode "Girls' Night Out."

Justice League Unlimited

Main article: Justice League Unlimited

Originally, plans called for Barbara Gordon to appear in the Justice League Unlimited episode "Double Date" scripted by Birds of Prey author Gail Simone. The episode would have featured Oracle's animated debut, but because of the restrictions on Batman-related characters, Gordon was replaced with Green Arrow and The Question. After receiving severe injuries in her duties as Batgirl, a house-bound Babs would have contacted Nightwing, Black Canary, and Huntress to do her bidding (including Nightwing/Oracle/Huntress romantic tension).

Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman

Main article: Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman

In the movie Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman, Gordon appears briefly when she calls Bruce to find out who the Batwoman is. She expresses jealousy, and Bruce dodges the issue by faking cellular phone problems. This is the only scene in which Gordon appears. In the movie Barbara has a crush on Bruce which she expresses with hinting that she misses him. In the movie Barbara is unaware that Bruce is dating Kathleen Duquesne a.k.a. Batwoman.

Batman Beyond

Further information: Batman Beyond

Barbara Gordon, as she appears inBatman Beyond.

Barbara Gordon appears in Batman: Beyond, no longer the dashing beautiful vigilante she was in her youth but a grim, bitter old woman, first voiced by Stockard Channing and later Angie Harmon. In "Rebirth", the pilot for Batman Beyond, an aging, retired Bruce Wayne tells Terry McGinnis to take evidence to "Police Commissioner Barbara Gordon." McGinnis is prevented from doing so, which leads to him becoming the new Batman. In later episodes, she reveals her history and revised feelings. She and Bruce developed a romantic relationship at one point, stating that "on the streets it was like ballet" but that "eventually it gets old." When Batman did not leave his identity, she left him. "I don't hate him. I hate what he's become. Such a great man - so alone." She resents Wayne dragging another kid, as she believes he did with all his partners. Unlike her father, she states that vigilante justice "went out with the tommy gun" and insists Terry give up. However, she develops respect for the new Batman when he assists her in defending her husband, Gotham District Attorney Sam Young, from the assassin Curaré. While she never officially endorses or helps him (she never uses or develops a Bat-Signal), she no longer threatens to turn him in and continually looks the other way, acknowledging his assistance in some cases even if she never asks for it. On one occasion, she was prepared to arrest Terry when she apparently witnessed him murder criminal bomber Mad Stan, despite the fact that his arrest would compromise her and Bruce's secret, but Bruce and Terry succeeded in revealing that Spellbinder had simply created an illusion of Mad Stan's death; she subsequently awarded Terry with a civic service award as an apology. The precise future of Babs' and Dick's relationship - and, indeed, Dick Grayson's final fate - remains unknown. However the story implies that Dick Grayson remains alive, quoting Barbara as telling Terry to try looking him up for some stories about how Bruce treated his partners.

Main article: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker

In Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, the Joker kidnaps Tim Drake and brainwashes him into becoming "Joker Junior." Joker tells Drake to kill Batman, and he instead kills the Joker. During the battle, Barbara faces off against Harley Quinn, and watches as Harley plummets to her supposed death. Batman and Batgirl bury the Joker under Arkham Asylum and covers up the events with the aid of Commissioner Gordon. When the Joker seemingly returns from the dead, Terry goes to her when Bruce refuses to talk about how he knows that this cannot be the Joker. Although she initially refuses to talk to Terry, she later tells him the details of the final battle between Batman and the Joker when Bruce is recovering from Joker toxin, also temporarily taking Bruce's place in advising Terry when he tracks a couple of suspects as possible candidates for the Joker's true identity. At the conclusion of the film, she visits the now-recovering Tim Drake in the hospital, with Bruce also visiting his old partner to make the steps necessary to repair their old relationship.

The Batman

Main article: The Batman (TV series)

The Batman's version of Barbara Gordon as Batgirl, alongside Batman. Art by Jeff Matsuda.

In 2005, the Barbara Gordon Batgirl began appearing on The Batman animated series, voiced by Danielle Judovits. She was first mentioned on the episode "Night and the City" and made her first appearance on the episode "Batgirl Begins - Part One." On the show, Barbara Gordon began as a teenage daughter of Gotham Police Commissioner James Gordon and student of Gotham High. Though an excellent gymnast, she has lost interest in gymnastics; however, her father wants her to continue in the hope she might attend an Olympic Games.

Although not as interested in gymnastics, she finds police detective work fascinating - which worries her father. In addition to that, Barbara associates with her close friend Pamela Isley, a fellow student with a juvenile-detention record - something James Gordon does not like.

During a battle with Temblor in the Chlorogene lab, Barbara sees The Batman in action; after this, the seed to become Batgirl (or “Batwoman”, as she demands to be called until Commissioner James Gordon calls her by the name Batgirl) is planted. The battle also causes Pamela to become the teen villainess Poison Ivy after an experimental plant mutagen fell upon her. Batgirl arrives at Ivy's lair to help Batman save Gordon (though she originally wanted to save her friend from getting into more trouble), who she kidnapped earlier, only to find The Batman under Ivy's mind control. Batgirl is then forced to fight Batman. During the battle she beat Batman in hand-to-hand combat by kicking him into a pond, which freed him of Ivy's control. After she defeated Ivy and saved her father, The Batman decides not to tell Gordon that his daughter is Batgirl. That first adventure, Batgirl says, is "only the beginning". She aids The Dark Knight with numerous cases, proving herself as a trusted ally. Batman himself, despite never asking to have a partner, becomes fond of Barbara working with him - though he would not admit it. At one point, in the episode "A Dark Knight to Remember," she has figured out that Batman is secretly Bruce Wayne, as the billionaire is physically fit and can afford to purchase equipment that The Batman would require. However, Wayne suffered partial amnesia during that time, which made him lose the memory of his existence as The Dark Knight Detective, which threw Barbara off. After she and Batman saved Gotham from Maxie Zeus' siege in the episode "Thunder," The Dark Knight gave her his spare gadgets and accepted her as his partner. This marks the only time Batgirl is Batman's first sidekick as opposed to Robin.

Batman finally let Barbara in on his secret in the episode "Team Penguin," after getting a second partner, Robin. Deciding they needed team work training and to learn to trust one another more, the trio shares their secret identities (although Batgirl is reluctant to give up hers, Batman does it for her) and begins training. She and Robin develop a sibling-like relationship throughout the show, and annoyed when Robin calls her "Babs". In the two parter episode "The Joining", she participated in the battle to save Earth with Robin from the alien technological entity The Joining.

In the episode "Joker Express", Batgirl was under Joker's control and Batman and Robin have perforce to fight her. While Robin was almost killed, Batman fought Batgirl briefly. He defeated her by making Barbara inhale an incapacitating gas, which eventually restores her to normal after her body and mind begin to relax.

In the episode "Attack of the Terrible Trio", it is revealed that Barbara has graduated from Gotham High School at an early age and enrolled in Gotham University.

In the two-parter series finale episodes "Lost Heroes", Barbara and Robin once again join the battle against The Joining with the Justice League after they lost their powers. After The Joining is once again defeated, she and Robin discuss the idea of forming their own junior Justice League.

The plot implies that Dick Grayson, as in the comics, has a possibly unrequited crush on Barbara Gordon, and that he shows his affection through playful bickering. Due to the age difference between the two at the time, no official relationship was developed..

The episode "Artifact" shows that decades in the future, under mysterious circumstances, Barbara uses a wheelchair and adopts the "Oracle" identity. The adult version of Barbara was voiced by Kellie Martin. She manages the cyber realms and jokingly refers to Nightwing (Dick) as "Robin", somewhat flirtatiously. It's also shown in the distant future that Batgirl, along with Batman and Robin, are now legends similar to Robin Hood and his Merry Men. Ironically she's know in these stories as "Batwoman" which was what she wanted to be called when she first helped Batman.

Batman: The Brave and The Bold

Main article: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Batgirl is mentioned by Jaime Reyes in the "Night of the Huntress!" episode. Batgirl appears in the teaser of "The Last Patrol!" voiced by Mae Whitman. She saves Batman from Killer Moth in a flashback. In a present day scene of the teaser, she and Batman end up in one of Penguin's death traps. She returns in "The Criss Cross Conspiracy!", in which she and Nightwing have to work alongside Batman (in Batwoman's body) and Felix Faust to save Batwoman, who is trapped in Batman's body and at the mercy of the Riddler.

Batman: Under the Red Hood

While Barbara does not appear in the film, she is referenced when Jason Todd mentions to Batman about "friends the Joker has crippled".

Young Justice

Barbara appears in the Young Justice episode "Homefront", voiced by Alyson Stoner. She is portrayed as a student at the Gotham Academy alongside Dick Grayson and Artemis Crock. She also had a cameo appearance in episode 16 "Failsafe," standing in the crowd with Alfred. In the season 2 premiere, Batgirl has joined the Team during the five year gap. She helps Wonder Girl rescue U.N. Secretary General Tseng from Lobo. In "Alienated" she had a cameo with the rest of the Bat-Family invading a Krolotean facility. Batgirl returns in "Beneath" as part of a team sent to investigate The Light's activities in Bialya. Here she shows feminists leaning, challenging Nightwing on the basis of him justifying an all-female team for the mission.

Super Best Friends Forever

Barbara appears as one of the lead characters in Super Best Friends Forever. Tara Strong reprises her role from The New Batman Adventures.

Film

Batman & Robin

Main article: Batman & Robin (film)

Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl.

Batgirl, portrayed by actress Alicia Silverstone, appears in the 1997 movie Batman & Robin. The film's "Barbara Wilson" somewhat resembles the comics' Barbara Gordon. In the movie, Barbara is the niece of Alfred Pennyworth instead of the daughter of Commissioner Gordon, unlike in the comics. Her costume varies significantly from traditional versions, with no yellow coloring and a domino mask, also like Robin's instead of a black cowl mask. She also has blonde hair instead of red hair. However, during the film's climax, she, Batman, and Robin wear silver riding costumes to protect them from Mister Freeze's ice. This costume features a full skull cap that more closely resembles Barbara Gordon's traditional mask, though she tosses it away a few seconds later and reverts back to the domino mask. She mainly appears as Barbara Wilson until the latter half of the film, saving Batman and Robin from Poison Ivy, and helps Robin defeat Bane while Batman stops Mr. Freeze's plan. The film's characterization of Batgirl, as well as Silverstone's performance, was widely criticized. Silverstone was nominated for a Razzie Award for Worst Supporting Actress.

Batman Begins and The Dark Knight

Main articles: Batman Begins and The Dark Knight (film)

In Christopher Nolan's films, James Gordon's wife is named Barbara, but he also has a daughter in early childhood. In Batman Begins, a child appears briefly at Detective James Gordon's apartment. Through the window, the audience sees Gordon's wife nursing the infant. In The Dark Knight, Gordon has a somewhat older daughter (portrayed here by Hannah Gunn, and listed in the credits simply as "Gordon's daughter").

Video games

Barbara Gordon has also been adapted into several video games as both payable and non-playable characters. She appears as Oracle in the video game Batman: Dark Tomorrow and as Batgirl in the video games Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu and Batman Vengeance with Tara Strong reprising her role in the latter. In Batman Vengeance, Batgirl is not playable; her role is comparable to Oracle's. These games are available on Nintendo GameCube,PlayStation 2, and Xbox.

Barbara is an unlockable character in: Lego Batman: The Videogame as Batgirl, and can be played during free play. She shares Batman's attacks and suits.

She also appears as Oracle in Batman: Arkham Asylum voiced by Kimberly Brooks. She communicates with Batman over the radio during his time in the Asylum to help him deduce the Joker's latest plan. She never appears in person, but an artist's drawing of her is seen in her bio.

Oracle appears in Batman: Arkham City in the same role as the previous game voiced once again by Kimberly Brooks. For the first part of the game, Alfred serves as Batman's guide over the radio, and Oracle first appears in the Museum over the radio. No reason is given as to her abscenece up to that point. Digital concept art for the character was created, though her face is not seen. She and Alfred talk to Batman over the radio, helping him stop Hugo Strange, track other inmates, like Deadshot, intercept radio broadcasts, and aid him in various side missions.

She appears as Oracle in DC Universe Online, voiced by Kathy Catmull.

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@jhazzroucher:

Film

Supergirl

Main article: Supergirl (film)

A feature film adaptation Supergirl was released in 1984, starring Helen Slater in her first motion picture role. Supergirl was a spin-off from the popular 1978 film Superman, and Marc McClure reprises his role of Jimmy Olsen. The movie performed poorly at the box office and failed to impress critics or audiences; Peter O'Toole received a Golden Raspberry Award nomination for Worst Actor for his performance, while Faye Dunaway received a Worst Actress nomination for hers. Prior to its release, Supergirl was expected to be the first film of a series, and Helen Slater had a contract for three films, but Supergirl's failure at the box office cancelled plans for a Supergirl II.

Superman III

Supergirl was originally planned for Superman III, in a treatment written by Ilya Salkind. In a bizarre twist from the comics, Supergirl was to be the surrogate daughter of Brainiac (who later is possessively in love with her) who falls in love with Superman, who in the film was to be portrayed as her lover instead of cousin, contrary to all previous depictions.

Movie 43

Kristen Bell will Portray Supergirl in a comedy segment.

Animation

Superfriends

Main article: Superfriends

Although not appearing in the show, she did appear in some of the related comics with the show.

DC Animated Universe

Superman: The Animated Series

The animated Supergirl, as designed by Bruce Timm.

Supergirl first appears, voiced by Nicholle Tom, in the two-part Superman: The Animated Series episode "Little Girl Lost" as Kara In-Ze from Krypton's "sister world" of Argos. The character is depicted as a headstrong and independent teenage girl who was placed in suspended animation before the conditions on Argos became inhospitable.

Bruce Timm and Paul Dini intended to use the original Supergirl, Kara Zor-El, but were denied by DC Comics, due to DC's then-present edict that Superman was to remain the only surviving Kryptonian.

The daughter of planetary chief physician Kala In-Ze (In-Ze was the last name of Kara Zor-El's mother Allura), Kara was the only survivor of her planet, the rest having died when their suspended animation units suffered damage over time. While on a space exploration trip, Superman discovers Argos and consequently Kara. Clark arranges for the Kents to take Kara in while she adjusts to life on Earth, and upon visiting Clark in Metropolis, she wears glasses and a brunette wig with a ponytail to pose as Clark's cousin Kara Kent. This Supergirl shares Superman's vulnerability to kryptonite; she also suffers fromcheimatophobia (fear of cold), due to her experiences prior to her time in suspended animation. Kara is written as eager to take up a position at the right hand of Superman, but Superman thinks she is too young and unready, despite the fact that she and Jimmy Olsen, who struck up a friendship at once, were critical in ferreting out an early connection between Intergang and Granny Goodness. Kara becomes friends with Batgirl in The New Batman Adventures episode "Girls' Nite Out", though their meeting is played for laughs and the girls depicted as somewhat inept. However, this friendship was again referenced in the Justice League season 2 episode 'Comfort and Joy', in which Superman (Clark) asks his parents "Where's Kara?" and they reply "Skiing with Barbara."

The costume worn by the animated Supergirl is used by Linda Danvers in the 1996 Supergirl comic book series. She continues to use that same costume in her first appearance in the first episode of Justice League Unlimited, where Nicholle Tom reprises her voice-acting role. In the third season of JLU, Supergirl appears in a new outfit, (the more traditional blue top with red miniskirt) that resembles Kara Zor-El's post-Crisis costume. Plus, She becomes an excellent hand-to-hand combatant, having trained in various forms of unarmed fighting such as Taekwondo, Kickboxing, Karate, etc. In the episode "Far From Home", the explanation is that the costume was altered to look more like Superman's mentioned in a discussion between Green Arrow and Superman.

Supergirl appears in Justice League as a mourner at Superman's funeral when he was presumed dead but wasn't; she does not wear her Kara Kent disguise. Rather, she has her blonde hair exposed and is attired in sombre black, a discrepancy that was never addressed considering that throughout the rest of her civilian appearances, she is in her disguise.

Justice League Unlimited

It is revealed that scientists from Project Cadmus create Galatea, an evil clone of the program's Supergirl (Kara) for nefarious purposes. The clone is a more mature version of Kara, and in appearance and costume is a homage to Power Girl. Kara, accompanied by Green Arrow and Question travel to S.T.A.R. Labs to investigate. From this episode on, Green Arrow becomes a sort of father figure to Kara and frequently discusses her with Superman. In the episode "Far From Home", Green Arrow tells Superman that he and Black Canary planned on bringing Supergirl out to celebrate her twenty-first birthday. With the re-introduction of Kara Zor-El to regular DC continuity, she is also referred to once again as Superman's cousin.

Supergirl's new uniform in Justice League Unlimited.

In the Justice League Unlimited episode "Far From Home", Supergirl, along with Green Lantern and Green Arrow, encounter Legion of Super-Heroes members Brainiac 5 and Bouncing Boy. They have brought the three modern heroes to the 31st century to aid them in defeating the Fatal Five, who have implanted mind control in all Legionnaires. However, Brainiac 5 tells Green Lantern and Green Arrow that 30th century history says that Supergirl never returned to her own time; Brainiac 5 and Bouncing Boy assume this indicates that she will die while on this mission. As Kara experiences the techonology and society of the 30th century, which is similar to that of her lost homeworld, she becomes more and more conflicted about returning to the past, where she has never felt that she fits in. Finally, she and Brainiac 5 develop romantic feelings for each other, and when Green Lantern and Green Arrow prepare to return to the past, she tells them that 30th century history will be fulfilled since she is staying in the future as a member of the Legion. DC Comics introduced Kara into their Legion of Superheroes monthly comic soon after renaming it 'Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes.' Kara had also been a member of the Legion prior to her first comic incarnation's death in 'Crisis on Infinite Earths.' She also had a relationship with Brainiac 5 during this time.

N.B: Kara In-Ze is based on the character Kara Zor-El.

Smallville Legends: Kara and the Chronicles of Krypton

Kara and the Chronicles of Krypton will be the fourth set of videos of the Smallville Chronicles "series." In these animated shorts we see Kara during the Kryptonian Civil War which led eventually to her planet's destruction. She is the daughter of Zor-El and lives in the city of Kandor in contrast to previous versions of the character that lived in Argo. Zor-El is a prominent figure in the war and so Kara is in the middle of the chaos. The webisodes are featured on the Smallville Complete Season 7 DVD set as a bonus feature.

Justice League: The New Frontier

Supergirl also appears in a brief background cameo appearance in the Direct-to-DVD animated film Justice League: The New Frontier. She is seen during the famous speech made by John F. Kennedy along with many other characters just before the closing credits.

Superman/Batman Apocalypse

Kara Zor-El appears in Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, based on the second storyline from the Superman/Batman comic series, "The Supergirl from Krypton". The film depicts her arrival on Earth and adjustment to life on the new planet. She is voiced by actress Summer Glau.

Super Best Friends Forever

Supergirl appears alongside Batgirl and Wonder Girl in Super Best Friends Forever, a series of shorts developed by Lauren Faust for the DC Nation block on Cartoon Network. She is voiced by Nicole Sullivan.

Television

Smallville

Promotional image of Laura Vandervoort as Kara Zor-El fromSmallville's seventh season. Her jacket is blue in the actual program.

A girl calling herself Kara (played by Adrianne Palicki) appears in the Smallville television series episode "Covenant", claiming to be from Krypton, although she does not call herself Supergirl or Kara Zor-El or even claim to be Kal-El's cousin. When Lana Lang asked who she was, Clark Kent claimed she was a visiting cousin. She was revealed at episode's end to be Lindsey Harrison, a human empowered and controlled by Kryptonian technology as part of Jor-El's plan to influence Clark.

The actual Supergirl character appears in the program's seventh season, beginning with the season premiere. She is played by actress Laura Vandervoort. Kara was sent from Krypton at the same time as was Kal-El to look after him, but was trapped under a dam during the first meteor shower and was in suspended animation for the past 18 years. After the dam is broken, Kara Zor-El is freed. As the daughter of Zor-El, she is Clark's Kryptonian cousin, and hence possesses the same powers. Though she has also mastered flight, she, like her comic book counterpart, lacks the control Clark has developed over his years of dealing with humans. For example, she is unaware of the more subtle super-hearing until taught to use it by Clark. Though chronologically older than Clark (she was sixteen years old at the time of Clark's birth), her time in suspended animation leaves her with the appearance of a girl in her mid-to-late teens.

Kara explains that Clark was not made aware of her existence because their respective fathers were not on good terms, exemplified by Jor-El's distrust when informed of her arrival by Clark. The Martian Manhunter AKA John Jones is similarly distrustful of her, as Kara is of him, claiming that Zor-El attempted to have Jor-El assassinated. In the episode "Lara", it is revealed the Martian Manhunter was correct about her father. Zor-El had tried to kill his brother out of the love he had for Jor-El's wife, Lara. Kara witnessed an incident where Zor-El attempted to force Lara to leave Jor-El and love him. Zor-El had erased her memories, causing her to believe he was a good man until now. Realizing she was wrong about her father, she puts her memories of him aside and remains with Clark on the farm. At the end of the episode "Blue", when a double of Zor-El is defeated, Kara is involuntarily teleported to Detroit with a case of amnesia.

After being taken in by a waitress, she works at a diner for several weeks, and eventually takes on the name of "Linda." Her memories and powers remain mysteriously gone, as Clark brings her back to Smallville. However, he decides to hide her Kryptonian identity from her, hiding her Kryptonian bracelet. Because of this, by the episode "Hero" she becomes drawn to Lex, moving in with him, because of Clark and Lana's secrecy.

In the episode "Traveler", Kara's memory and powers are restored by Jor-El making her able to save Clark, who was imprisoned in a Kryptonite cell. In the following episode, entitled "Veritas", Kara attempts to teach Clark how to fly so as to further his chances of surviving a confrontation with the newly-restored Brainiac. When Kara resists Brainiac's offer of help in restoring Krypton, Lana falls victim to Brainiac's brain-probe. This, in turn, prompts Kara to voluntarily travel into space with Brainiac, and she is last seen entering hyperspace high above Earth. In the seventeenth episode titled "Sleeper", Kara is discovered to be on Krypton, in the year 1986. In the episode 18, "Apocalypse", we see Kara on an alternative universe where Kal-El never made it to Earth. Kara was found and raised by Lex and Lionel Luthor, and took on the name Linda Danvers, being head of DDS (Department of Domestic Security). There, when she finds Clark from the original Smallville universe, she reveals that was sent to Earth to kill him. Back in the year 1986, Kara is fighting Brainiac, when she is helped by Clark, destroys Brainiac, and make it to Earth again.

It is finally discovered in the season finale "Arctic", that the real Kara never made it back to Earth and is trapped in the Phantom Zone, and that Brainiac had been impersonating her. In episode 8 of season 8, "Bloodline", Clark and Lois are transported into the Phantom Zone where they are mistakenly attacked by Kara. She later reveals a portal that can allow one to exit the Phantom Zone but she has not done so, fearing the escape of other prisoners. She activates the portal to allow Clark and Lois back but both she and Clark are defeated by Faora, General Zod's wife. With Chloe's help, they make it back to Smallville where Kara helps Clark defeat Faora by using the Martian Manhunter's crystal to separate Faora from Lois Lane's body. In the end, she leaves Smallville, flying into space, where she has gone to look for Kandor after hearing rumors of its survival of the destruction of Krypton.

She appears again in the season 10 episode entitled "Supergirl" where she disguises herself as a hero. Later in the episode, she helps Clark by repelling Darkseid and later puts on glasses and a wig to protect her identity. In Episode 20 of that season Jor-El tells Kara she must disappear from this time period, since it must just be Kal-El's time only. Reluctantly Kara puts on the Legion Ring and goes to the 31st century, never really saying good bye to Clark.

Video games

Justice League Heroes

Supergirl first appeared in the PSP version of Justice League Heroes as an unlockable character. voiced by Tara Strong Judging by the appearance and powers, this is the Linda Danvers version of Supergirl.

DC Universe Online

Supergirl appears in the DC Universe Online video game, voiced by Adrienne Mischler.

#38 Posted by jhazzroucher (13934 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare:

How about in this format?

Number of Appearances in comics as of June 28, 2012:

Storm: 4,369

Wonder Woman: 3,896

Lois Lane: 3,279

Supergirl: 1,812

Black Canary: 1,765

Barbara Gordon: 1,505

Catwoman: 1,137

Number of appearances in video games as of june 2012

Storm: 36

Wonder Woman: 11

Catwoman: 14

Supergirl: 3

Batgirl: 7

#39 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: The reason Storm appears in so many books is because she and several prominent x-men like cyclops, wolverine, rogue, jean grey, gambit appears in many different x-men books at the same time.

Supergirl was also dead from the period of Crisis on Infinte earth till 2006. Plus DC don't do multiple titles as much as Marvel. DC also traditionally release 30% lesser books than Marvel. So Supergirl would appear in her own book and perhaps have a feature in Superman. If Storm is so popular, why can't she have her own movie, DTV feature (superman/batman apokolips) or recur in a live action TV series (Smallville).

Batgirl (babs) was also handicapped from The Killing Joke to new 52. Yet, she has appeared in a live action TV series (batman), animated movie, live action movie.

Catwoman also has her own movie and constantly appearing in the old batman and even the current one.

Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Woman are also the most cosplayed character on halloween and its relatively easy to buy a Supergirl/Batgirl/Wonder Woman costume almost everywhere. Unlike a storm outfit which you have to custom make it.

#40 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@sethysquare:

How about in this format?

Number of Appearances in comics as of June 28, 2012:

Storm: 4,369

Wonder Woman: 3,896

Lois Lane: 3,279

Supergirl: 1,812

Black Canary: 1,765

Barbara Gordon: 1,505

Catwoman: 1,137

Number of appearances in video games as of june 2012

Storm: 36

Wonder Woman: 11

Catwoman: 14

Supergirl: 3

Batgirl: 7

Also by saying that you're also saying Beast who has 4588 appearance is more popular than Wonder Woman. Which is not true at all.

#41 Posted by jhazzroucher (13934 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@jhazzroucher: The reason Storm appears in so many books is because she and several prominent x-men like cyclops, wolverine, rogue, jean grey, gambit appears in many different x-men books at the same time.

Supergirl was also dead from the period of Crisis on Infinte earth till 2006. Plus DC don't do multiple titles as much as Marvel. DC also traditionally release 30% lesser books than Marvel. So Supergirl would appear in her own book and perhaps have a feature in Superman. If Storm is so popular, why can't she have her own movie, DTV feature (superman/batman apokolips) or recur in a live action TV series (Smallville).

Batgirl (babs) was also handicapped from The Killing Joke to new 52. Yet, she has appeared in a live action TV series (batman), animated movie, live action movie.

Catwoman also has her own movie and constantly appearing in the old batman and even the current one.

Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Woman are also the most cosplayed character on halloween and its relatively easy to buy a Supergirl/Batgirl/Wonder Woman costume almost everywhere. Unlike a storm outfit which you have to custom make it.

1. Storm may have not given a major role but she is currently appearing in at least 2 books or more every month. a lot of people are buying x-men and avengers comics so definitely they know who Storm is.and more exposure means more known.

2. Some of the dc ladies you have mentioned may have their own films but when were they released? Back when there were only a few household with televisions and few theaters. Surely, the x-men films were shown worldwide and it was Storm and Wolverine images that are usually shown on newspapers and magazines.

3 how many people are actually attending cosplays? Besides people who attend may still see Storm images somewhere during the convention. And how is that compared to more than 8 million monthly users playing Marvel: Avengers Alliancewhich facebook users would see a Storm image with the rest of the big guys of Marvel during the intro/loading part.

4. Storm has a high number of appearances on films and cartoon series

With those we have discussed, maybe nobody else is as popular or more popular than Storm except Wonder Woman. But I'd say Catwoman is behind her. The latest Batman video game has sold more than 2 million copies and it featured Catwoman. Catwoman will also show up on the upcoming Batman film so prolly it's safe to say she'll be as popular as or maybe more popular than Storm and Wonder Woman when the movie is released.

#42 Posted by tim2081 (519 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Storm is less popular than Wonder Woman and any female clone of Superman and Batman; she's more popular than the rest.

#43 Posted by jhazzroucher (13934 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@sethysquare:

How about in this format?

Number of Appearances in comics as of June 28, 2012:

Storm: 4,369

Wonder Woman: 3,896

Lois Lane: 3,279

Supergirl: 1,812

Black Canary: 1,765

Barbara Gordon: 1,505

Catwoman: 1,137

Number of appearances in video games as of june 2012

Storm: 36

Wonder Woman: 11

Catwoman: 14

Supergirl: 3

Batgirl: 7

Also by saying that you're also saying Beast who has 4588 appearance is more popular than Wonder Woman. Which is not true at all.

we don't only consider the number of appearances in comics but also in movies, cartoons, etc.

@sethysquare said:

Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl have more than 100 solo issues for each of them. Recently Batwoman joined the rank as a top 25 book. Worlds finest top 20. When Marvel have a solo female book that went pass 50 issues or sells in the top 25, then we'll talk.

Captain Marvel looks like she has potential. We'll see.

so since The Tick, Witchblade,etc had their own ongoing solo comics, does that mean they're more popular than Storm?

#44 Posted by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio

Catwoman

Lois Lane

Starfire

Barbra Gordon

Supergirl

Black Canary

(others I cant think of at the moment)

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#45 Posted by ReVamp (22859 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler: Starfire?

...Interesting.

#46 Posted by Remi (613 posts) - - Show Bio

You do know that half or more of her appearances are from translated comics, right? ~_~

#47 Posted by Owen_Porter (83173 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@Gambler: Starfire?

...Interesting.

That ones a gamble,

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#48 Posted by ReVamp (22859 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambler said:

@ReVamp said:

@Gambler: Starfire?

...Interesting.

That ones a gamble,

I C WA U DID THAR.

@Remi said:

You do know that half or more of her appearances are from translated comics, right? ~_~

One thing I don't like about this sites wiki. Possibly THE thing.

#49 Posted by Remi (613 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp: meh.

#50 Posted by ReVamp (22859 posts) - - Show Bio

@Remi said:

@ReVamp: meh.

I really don't like it.

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