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    New 52 sales in November: Supes/Wondy fall, DC stable

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    #1  Edited By ChiSoxRox

    Here's a list from an Excel sheet I'm maintaining of the sales figures for each series in the New 52, for those who want to see how their favorite title is trending. The figures are taken from Diamond Comic Distributors (via Comichron), who keeps track of this sort of thing. In the following tables, assume the November issue is #25 unless otherwise noted. To make the chart easier to read, I put in the ranking for every fifth series.

    Series in italics have already been cancelled and publish their final issues in January. Note that no issue of Superman Unchained came out in October; #4 was released November 6. Here are October numbers, the last month of regular sales.

    No new issue of Justice League was published in November (Issue #25 comes out December 11).

    Series (Issue)Nov. 2013 (#25)Oct. 2013August 2013July 2013
    1. Batman125,602124,652128,230132,047
    Harley Quinn (#0)114,212
    Superman Unchained (#4)110,611no issue136,319165,754
    Batman/Superman (#4)77198829908733792558
    5. JL of America71008773059377786192
    Detective Comics64392593106144863949
    Superman/Wonder Woman (#2)6018594859
    Green Lantern54322571095917662415
    Batman and...53374520605570757808
    10. Action Comics46550396204260344861
    Nightwing44039398534052242073
    Flash41838381903886038993
    Batman: The Dark Knight41634433824558447096
    Aquaman41264422484414045653
    15. Batgirl40752366663770739218
    Earth 2 (#17)39846383894084542022
    Superman39295395804215542961
    Justice League Dark38760454016404161465
    Green Lantern Corps38369373123622942194
    20. Wonder Woman33532343083474735539
    Teen Titans32395345363174233062
    Green Lantern: New Guardians32069354173447340788
    Red Hood and the Outlaws30632271282882130534
    Green Arrow29591246202544926172
    25. Catwoman29471351342426224737
    Red Lanterns27786307712962335236
    Suicide Squad27067277622216622447
    Batwoman25987256092622327400
    Supergirl25377233212474725514
    30. Birds of Prey22751183821936420209
    World's Finest (#17)21920229872415925143
    Superboy21449183412023519984
    Trinity of Sin: Pandora (#5)21267257083456332170
    Swamp Thing21141217242269523885
    35. Constantine (#8)20981229542517430664
    Animal Man19710205542163422974
    Phantom Stranger (#13)17779197322698620636
    Talon (#12)17218182181944920296
    Batwing16207111141158412062
    40. Larfleeze (#5)16157180612195530221
    All-Star Western13937143781527615376
    Stormwatch9881100671096911792
    JLA's Vibe (#9)9387101391118412241
    Katana (#9)854293921038611346
    45. The Movement (#6)795791101109514524
    The Green Team (#6)52866318849311220
    MiniseriesNov. (#3)Oct.Sept.
    Forever Evil (#3)105,755112,944139,976
    FE Arkham War44,13352,004
    FE Rogues Rebellion30,31736,545
    FE Argus25,07132,146

    Not counting the Forever Evil miniseries, the New 52 (or 46) sold 1,708,728 issues, a 5.27% gain from October (especially against a slight drop industry wide in sales). Keep in mind the missing issue of Justice League is another 95,000 issues or so missing, so the New 46 is still quite stable.

    However Superman/Wonder Woman is not very stable. A drop is expected from the initial issue, but a drop of 36.6% is a steep loss. Unless Superman/Wonder Woman stabilizes, their title will drop out of the top ten next month, a love that threatens to turn sour for DC execs. The next couple months will show how viable their series is; staying above 30k by summer will be important. I'm projecting 48k sales next month and 11th place.

    Looking at the middle range sellers, Justice League Dark is still riding strong on its Trinity War bump; it is still at 150% of its pre-War level of 25,000 issues sold. Catwoman had her mystery bump from last month cut in half, but she is still 5k issues above her recent trendline. Lastly, my Batwoman survived the creator chaos well, even gaining a small bump (of 300 issues, but I'll take it). Hopefully Kate continues to hold steady.

    A weak month industry wide means Green Team limps its way back into the top 300, but as expected it set a new record low for the New 52. The rate of decline slowed down, suggesting that it's getting down to the core readers, but it cannot end soon enough for DC. The Movement is still ongoing, and it's coming down hard on top of Green Team, so the ultimate dud title may be The Movement's to lose. All-Star Western is also getting down into the capital D danger zone for cancellation; I expect Jonah Hex to be gone by next fall along with Movement and the rapidly disappearing Larfleeze. Batwing had a bump from the change of characters, but it's still way too low. He's lasted this long though, so I don't dare predict what'll happen to Batwing.

    So what comes next month? How will Justice League 3000 do? (About 105k I think.) Will Superman/Wonder Woman avoid another steep loss? (I think so, although with a still over 10k drop.) Will Green Team fall back into the "additional titles reported" section? (Yep, LOL) See you all next month for the Christmas sales report!

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    #2  Edited By Fallschirmjager

    Flash got a 10%~ boost and Green Arrow got a 20%~ boost!

    Nice to see. Hope it continues.

    Animal Man and Swamp Thing sales are still depressing, and its not gonna get better since the former is ending :(

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    Flash got a 10%~ boost and Green Arrow got a 20%~ boost!

    Nice to see. Hope it continues.

    Yeah, those were surprising. Was there anything new, or just a random bump?

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    #4  Edited By Fallschirmjager

    @chisoxrox said:

    @fallschirmjager said:

    Flash got a 10%~ boost and Green Arrow got a 20%~ boost!

    Nice to see. Hope it continues.

    Yeah, those were surprising. Was there anything new, or just a random bump?

    Both were Zero year tie ins, lol.

    "Need a boost in sales? Just associate yourself with Batman!"

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    That very small Batwoman bump makes me think a bunch of regular readers have dropped the series.

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    #6  Edited By ChiSoxRox

    That very small Batwoman bump makes me think a bunch of regular readers have dropped the series.

    Yeah, and honestly I can't blame them. I'm still getting the series, but I already miss the old writing and art.

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    Good to see Supergirl getting a bump thanks to Krypton Returns I just hope they stick around for the creative team change.

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    @chisoxrox: Agreed. Considering the drop in quality of art and writing, the forced family angle, and the nothing special action story, I can imagine next months sales figures being considerably lower.

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    #9  Edited By lifeofvibe

    @chisoxrox: Thus my eyes deceive me again!? Is that harley quinn at #2!??

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    @lifeofvibe: Harley Quinn is at number 2! I am happy to see Harley's book doing well even if it isn't the Harley I like from the pre-New 52 days.

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    Come one All-Star Western! Pick it up!

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    @lifeofvibe: Harley Quinn is at number 2! I am happy to see Harley's book doing well even if it isn't the Harley I like from the pre-New 52 days.

    Keep in mind guys that it is the first issue. Still, she ought to be able to stay in the top five next month, and the top ten for the foreseeable future.

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    @chisoxrox said:

    @fallschirmjager said:

    Flash got a 10%~ boost and Green Arrow got a 20%~ boost!

    Nice to see. Hope it continues.

    Yeah, those were surprising. Was there anything new, or just a random bump?

    Both were Zero year tie ins, lol.

    "Need a boost in sales? Just associate yourself with Batman!"

    That's what it is!

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    Sad to see Wonder Woman is still the worst seller of the core 7, her comic is awesome and she is boss.

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    Sad to see Wonder Woman is still the worst seller of the core 7, her comic is awesome and she is boss.

    QFT. That title is my favourite on my pull list given how consistently well written it is. Also a shame to see TMNT only reach 17,000 in sales since that's one of the best titles out there.

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    #16  Edited By SanoHibiki

    If I understood rightly, this is sales’ results of only printed/paper comics, without sales of digital ones?

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    Green Lantern sales are falling alarmingly...looks like Geoff Johns is missed quite a bit.

    Always amazed how many comics Batman sells...way ahead of the others, although unchained holding up well.

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    If I understood rightly, this is sales’ results of only printed/paper comics, without sales of digital ones?

    True; unfortunately the people with the digital sales numbers don't release them to the public. As well, technically this is shipment numbers; if a comic sits on the store shelf forever it still gets counted.

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    @sanohibiki said:

    If I understood rightly, this is sales’ results of only printed/paper comics, without sales of digital ones?

    True; unfortunately the people with the digital sales numbers don't release them to the public. As well, technically this is shipment numbers; if a comic sits on the store shelf forever it still gets counted.

    Its annoying how Comixolgy don't realse there sales numbers. When ever you read an interview they always say they are increasing month in month out. And you would think DC and Marvel would love digital they charge for the same price as a regular book yet have none of the manufacturing costs they would just have pay Comixiolgy there cut which I imagine is the same as a retail store.

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    Yep, totally worth scrapping Hellblazer to replace it with a book that continues to drop in readership each month.

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    I doubt that the third issue of Superman\wonder woman will be more successful than second.

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    I doubt that the third issue of Superman\wonder woman will be more successful than second.

    And I'm one of the few who's glad of that. A 30,000 drop in sales estimates is never a good thing for a series to experience on its second issue.

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    That very small Batwoman bump makes me think a bunch of regular readers have dropped the series.

    Sounds about right. I think we'll get a better estimate of the sales in the next few months, after some of the new readers who were "just taking a look" (without intending to buy the series regularly) begin to die out. Then we'll be left with the original readers who stuck with the series after Williams and Blackman left plus the new readers who decided to stick with the series after giving Andreyko a chance.

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    @lvenger said:

    @superwondy said:

    I doubt that the third issue of Superman\wonder woman will be more successful than second.

    And I'm one of the few who's glad of that. A 30,000 drop in sales estimates is never a good thing for a series to experience on its second issue.

    It seems to be quite common for a #1 to sell a good few more than #2 though, and #1 had 6 more variant covers.

    @supbatz said:

    @v_scarlotte_rose said:

    That very small Batwoman bump makes me think a bunch of regular readers have dropped the series.

    Sounds about right. I think we'll get a better estimate of the sales in the next few months, after some of the new readers who were "just taking a look" (without intending to buy the series regularly) begin to die out. Then we'll be left with the original readers who stuck with the series after Williams and Blackman left plus the new readers who decided to stick with the series after giving Andreyko a chance.

    True. It'll be interesting to see how the change has affected sales.

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    #26  Edited By bloggerboy

    Oh man, do you think I should get Wonder Woman Vol. 3 sooner rather than later and Vol. 4 right off the presses?

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    @chisoxrox:

    the people with the digital sales numbers don't release them to the public.

    That’s kind of strange. Why cites with official license to sell comics wouldn’t release data on how many digital comics were downloaded from them? We can see how many printed comics were sold (probably) but we didn’t get to know eventual financial statistics.

    @darkman61288:

    Yeah but print still out sell digital.

    You make it sound like printed and digital comics rivaling with each other for sales LOL. They complete each other. So far I saw how many printed comics were sold, but money from their digital versions should be accounted too (for example, Smallville title is purely digital, but its sells well). How really profitable all this comic sales – I still don’t have complete information.

    @lvenger:

    A 30,000 drop in sales estimates is never a good thing for a series to experience on its second issue.

    Superman Unchained #2 dropped in sales in comparison with it first issue on approximately 90 000 units, Batman/Superman #2 dropped more than 58 000 copies. Is that also not a good thing for title to experience on its second issue?

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    @sanohibiki: Unchained had a safety net because it was still well within the 100,000s on sales estimates. The same cannot be said for Superman/Wonder Woman which has been relegated to the 60,000s zone.

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    How is Harley Quinn #2? Did someone accidentally order 114,211 more issues than they needed?

    Also, why is Talon getting cancelled while Stormwatch, Katana, Vibe, Larfleeze, and The Movement are all allowed to survive? All it really needed was a Bat-book tie-in to bump it up to at least DC's top 30.

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    @jonny_anonymous: The May 2012 issue of Hellblazer only sold 9,426, so in DC's eyes, this is a win. And with the importance of Constantine in the New 52, it only makes sense that he'd get his own N52 series.

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    @jonny_anonymous: The May 2012 issue of Hellblazer only sold 9,426, so in DC's eyes, this is a win. And with the importance of Constantine in the New 52, it only makes sense that he'd get his own N52 series.

    and yet that's about average sales for a mature Vertigo book, Helblazer has hovered around that mark for like the last 10 years and yet Constantine has been dropping every month

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    @lvenger said:

    @sanohibiki: Unchained had a safety net because it was still well within the 100,000s on sales estimates. The same cannot be said for Superman/Wonder Woman which has been relegated to the 60,000s zone.

    I am a little curious how do you estimate this safety net for such titles as Superman, Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Superboy (their sales results depress me, except in case of Superboy)? Are they dependant only on hardcore readers/fans?

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    @lvenger said:

    @sanohibiki: Unchained had a safety net because it was still well within the 100,000s on sales estimates. The same cannot be said for Superman/Wonder Woman which has been relegated to the 60,000s zone.

    I am a little curious how do you estimate this safety net for such titles as Superman, Wonder Woman, Supergirl and Superboy (their sales results depress me, except in case of Superboy)? Are they dependant only on hardcore readers/fans?

    Unchained may have dropped a significant amount from its first issue but it has consistently been in the top 5/top 10 of comic book sales and well over 100,000 in estimates all the time. It also depends on writer following as since Snyder is writing Unchained, his fans have flocked to the title whereas some Superman fans on here have expressed that they find Unchained unsatisfactory. The difference is for me is both the popularity of the character and word of mouth on the creative team.

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    @v_scarlotte_rose: Oh. The Movement still should have replaced Talon on the cancellation list, in my opinion. It's selling worse and Green Team was cancelled, so it'd only make sense. Talon should have at least had a Zero Year tie-in to bump up the sales...

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    @jonny_anonymous: It's dropping, but I really doubt it'll hit that zone any time soon. It sucks, but that's how it works...

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    @rulerofthisuniverse: I didn't read The Movement or The Green Team, but the early advertising made it look like they were like two sides to the same story, so it does seem a bit weird that only one of them has finished.

    I don't read Talon either, so I don't know what a Zero Year issue could have been like, but they managed to push a load of titles into it, so it shouldn't have been too hard to include it. The sales boosts for Zero Year were between 1.5% and 46%, but I don't know how many new regular readers that'll actually bring to each series.

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    @v_scarlotte_rose: I never read either of the two, but from what I heard, they were pretty closely connected. Not sure why they both weren't cancelled.

    They have tie-ins from everything from The Flash to Action Comics for a Batman event but they didn't include a Bat-title that's been having sales problems. It's really odd.

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    #39  Edited By V_Scarlotte_Rose

    @rulerofthisuniverse: Maybe the creative team don't like doing tie-ins, kind of like the previous Batwoman team.

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    How in the holy f*ck is Harley Quinn #2??? Did someone accidentally order 114,211 more issues than they needed???

    Also, why is Talon getting cancelled while Stormwatch, Katana, Vibe, Larfleeze, and The Movement are all allowed to survive??? All it needed was a Bat-book tie-in to leap to at least DC's top 30.

    Katana , Vibe have been canceled it was Vibes last issue this week. I could have sworn Stormwatch was canceled as well.

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    #41  Edited By ChiSoxRox

    @timelord: Stormwatch is cancelled too, hence the italics in my table.

    As for Constantine, yeah he is getting low but he is still outside the bottom 10. DC seems to cancel 4 books at a time on average, so Constantine has a buffer of bad titles that should go before he would. As well, I'm thinking him being a former flagship Vertigo title will help him hang on. I expect him to still be around in 2015.

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    #42  Edited By SelinaWayne

    I doubt that the third issue of Superman\wonder woman will be more successful than second.

    I agree.I was surprised that the comic in which Superman fights against the Apollo took the 20th place.

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    #43  Edited By ChiSoxRox

    New numbers out Monday; here's the top 10 for December.

    1Origin II #14.99Marvel
    2Avengers #24.Now4.99Marvel
    3Batman #263.99DC
    4Forever Evil #43.99DC
    5Superman Unchained #53.99DC
    6Justice League #253.99DC
    7Harley Quinn #12.99DC
    8Justice League #263.99DC
    9Inhumanity #13.99Marvel
    10Superior Spider-Man #233.99Marvel

    Superman/Wonder Woman is likely right on the edge of the top 10 for DC (Batman, FE, SU, JL, HQ, JLA, and then places 7 to 9 are likely Detective, Green Lantern, and Batman & ____).

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    #45  Edited By SanoHibiki

    @chisoxrox:

    I see that Batman defended his place in Trinity : )

    Too bad about SuperWonder, but not really surprising. Still, SM/WW probably near the top 10 DC comics, so all ok for me.

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